# insane night, need advice

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [July 26, 2009, 12:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/insane-night-need-advice/31009 "2009-07-26T12:37:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 10:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/insane-night-need-advice/31009/16 "2009-07-26T22:44:37Z")

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[http://pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2801](http://pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2801)

> [@Androstenone Converting\\Breaking down into Androsterone?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-converting-breaking-down-into-androsterone/28086):
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> So I tested ammo out for the first time today and I got some weird self effects! First I felt like I was this big muscular guy walking around (Threatening Alpha) and then I felt like a softer more caring masculine guy (Caring/Protective Alpha). And in that second phase I couldn’t stop looking at women! Like right out staring! For more details check out my journal. So, I read that the affects of the second phase on myself and others sound oddly akin to that of [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) open_mouth Does…

[Chi Power Syndicate | Pheromones and Chi](http://chipower.com/blog/pheremones-and-chi/)

[http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:PYwkkyjoeo0J:pherolibrary.com/articles/what-are-pheromones.htm+androstenol+converts+to+androstenone&cd=20&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us](http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:PYwkkyjoeo0J:pherolibrary.com/articles/what-are-pheromones.htm+androstenol+converts+to+androstenone&cd=20&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us)

“Bacterial action may also have some role to play in pheromone production, but not much is known about this at the time of writing. For example, the pheromone **androstenol** may oxidise (by bacterial action) to **androstenone**. [Androstadienone](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/human-pheromones/androstadienone.htm) can also be converted into **androstenone**. However, bacteria are responsible for causing the bad smells associated with body odor, and they do this by metabolising the chemicals (including the pheromones) in the oily apocrine secretions. A study on bacterial action on [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) can be found [here](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=8142319&dopt=Abstract).”

> [@evolver](#):
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> Hearsay whosay WAHT DID YOU SAY???
> 
> I have never heard this. And I could be wrong, but it sounds bogus. If you can back that shit up though, lay down the links 🆒

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