# Instans Shine or Openness for Pickup? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 26, 2010, 12:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instans-shine-or-openness-for-pickup/43564 "2010-11-26T12:01:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Puzzytheif](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/puzzytheif/32/5194_2.png) [@Puzzytheif](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Puzzytheif)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 12:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instans-shine-or-openness-for-pickup/43564/1 "2010-11-26T12:01:25Z")
Hey! I’ve tried out [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) before, no results. I want to try out IShine or IO but dont know which one to choose. Which one is better for making girls open you first? (if that even is possible, lol) By the way, i’m 21 so the girls iam looking to attract are pretty young. from 18 to 28 or something ---
**Author:** ![LoveDocta](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lovedocta/32/993_2.png) [@LoveDocta](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LoveDocta)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instans-shine-or-openness-for-pickup/43564/2 "2010-11-26T17:32:36Z")
well if i were you i would get both if possible but i dont think there’s really any phermone that you can put on sit down and expect women to just come up to you and start chatting/flirting with you. You’re still gonna have to put in work in order for this to happen you cant just sit and expect stuff to happen, phermones dont work that way al they do is pretty much enhance/give you a extra edge over the competition. im still somewhat of a newb so any veterans please feel free to correct me if necessary lol IO= this will basically make people around you more chatty/ put them in a talkative mood IS= gives you a youthful, charismatic vibe that girls can find attractive both of these can not cause girls to just randomly walk up to you and start talking to you, but thats not to say that if you stand/sit by one long enough it wont happen 😃 all im saying is dont expect the mones to do all the work for you because if you buy the mones for that reason you will be disappointed. all the mones due is like i said earlier they just enhance whats already there to give you a extra edge ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 6:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instans-shine-or-openness-for-pickup/43564/3 "2010-11-26T18:17:58Z")
At age 21 you may have od’d on Ammo, either IO, Shine or even a spray of each on TOP of whatever dose of Ammo you’re using could help. But as was said, expecting the women to make the first move and approach you will be difficult at best. ---
**Author:** ![Puzzytheif](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/puzzytheif/32/5194_2.png) [@Puzzytheif](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Puzzytheif)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 9:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instans-shine-or-openness-for-pickup/43564/4 "2010-11-26T21:55:30Z")
Okey, thanks for the answers =) No i didnt think I could sit down and the women will come to me, lol. But I meant if I like small chat with people, or say something random that people shines up and starts to chat me up. Haha at least thats what [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) looked like. Why else is it called that way? 😛 Anyway If you HAD to choose between IS or IO, which one would you take and why? or maybe something else? ---
**Author:** ![Deja\_Vu](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/deja_vu/32/256_2.png) [@Deja\_Vu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Deja_Vu)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 5:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instans-shine-or-openness-for-pickup/43564/5 "2010-11-27T05:05:14Z")
If you’re looking for chats of course IO is gonna help, alot.