# Instant Female Magic feedback: the scent, a cancelled dinner and a reblend offer **URL:** \ **Category:** Consumer Products\ **Created:** [December 18, 2005, 12:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-feedback-the-scent-a-cancelled-dinner-and-a-reblend-offer/23478 "2005-12-18T00:53:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2006, 6:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-feedback-the-scent-a-cancelled-dinner-and-a-reblend-offer/23478/41 "2006-05-30T06:44:41Z")
It definitely seems to be very relaxing to the ladies. Two sprays doesnot seem terribly sexual though. I even noticed that my one uncle was much more open and comfortable withme today, but I was also wearing 2 drops A314 and 2 sprays of Liquid Trust. Not sure which one did that, but I liked it. Been trying to regain my friendship with him for a long time. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnieT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ce7236/32.png) [@JohnnieT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnieT)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 4:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-feedback-the-scent-a-cancelled-dinner-and-a-reblend-offer/23478/42 "2006-09-15T16:34:46Z")
IFM is the only Androtics product that turns me off.The smell is atrocious.I have several excellent quality cover scents.I have to OD on cologne,to cover the IFM.Josef compares it to goat;that rules out the goat farm I’ve been saving for. I feel self concious,when I wear it…because I get an occasional whif of it,several hours after application ☹ . ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 8:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-feedback-the-scent-a-cancelled-dinner-and-a-reblend-offer/23478/43 "2006-09-15T20:41:20Z")
I have never been able to smell anything but a slight hay-like scent, but I haven’t had good experiences with the way some women respond to the scent. It really sucks that it’s illegal for Harris to mix a cover scent into it directly, but it is. ---
**Author:** ![texaspete](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/texaspete/32/1612_2.png) [@texaspete](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/texaspete)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2006, 1:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-feedback-the-scent-a-cancelled-dinner-and-a-reblend-offer/23478/44 "2006-09-17T01:55:35Z")
I finally broke down and bought a “To Go” sized bottle of IFM. So what do you guys use for covering it, and how/ where do you apply it? I’ve got Armani Black Code, Axe “Touch” and Tag “Midnight”, and have also ordered Ammunition. I’m thinking of ordering Chikara from LS and/or buying more cheaper, musky colognes as cover scents (Jovan, Obsession?) I like Escada Aftershave, used as a cologne. Would [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) or Chikara work as a cover scent? ---
**Author:** ![nfs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nfs/32/1656_2.png) [@nfs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nfs)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2006, 12:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-feedback-the-scent-a-cancelled-dinner-and-a-reblend-offer/23478/45 "2006-09-17T12:40:58Z")
chikara = works for me very well with getting female attraction , but = very very weak powdery scent and will not work as a cover. Good musky cover is Gucci Envy, or try one of MHarris’ [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) Cologne’s. That’s fresher and not so musky but still covers well. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2006, 6:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-feedback-the-scent-a-cancelled-dinner-and-a-reblend-offer/23478/46 "2006-09-17T18:04:42Z")
> [@gabe1970](#): > > I finally broke down and bought a “To Go” sized bottle of Instant Female Magic. So what do you guys use for covering it, and how/ where do you apply it? I’ve got Armani Black Code, Axe “Touch” and Tag “Midnight”, and have also ordered Ammunition. I’m thinking of ordering Chikara from LS and/or buying more cheaper, musky colognes as cover scents (Jovan, Obsession?) I like Escada Aftershave, used as a cologne. Would Ammo or Chikara work as a cover scent? I wore just one spray of Ammunition last night, and had a gay guy tell me I smelled like animal urine… which I couldn’t smell at all… and neither could my “sniffer” who usually says IFM smells bad. That would be him noticing the androstenone, of course… I’m pretty sure he noticed it because he was gay… but… I’m not sure Ammunition is well suited for a cover scent since it’s already trying to cover something. Eternity seems to work at 1:1, although I don’t much like Eternity anymore… and [Akuto](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/akuto/) works, too. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2006, 6:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-feedback-the-scent-a-cancelled-dinner-and-a-reblend-offer/23478/47 "2006-09-17T18:05:49Z")
> [@Instant Female Magic feedback: 2 sprays for an old girlfriend's surprise visit](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-feedback-2-sprays-for-an-old-girlfriends-surprise-visit/64/45): > > chikara = works for me very well with getting female attraction , but = very very weak powdery scent and will not work as a cover. > > Good musky cover is Gucci Envy, or try one of MHarris’ Neroli Cologne’s. That’s fresher and not so musky but still covers well. I thought you said Envy didn’t last very long? I ought to look into one of the [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) colognes, I like that scent. ---
**Author:** ![nfs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nfs/32/1656_2.png) [@nfs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nfs)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2006, 11:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-feedback-the-scent-a-cancelled-dinner-and-a-reblend-offer/23478/48 "2006-09-17T23:18:38Z")
my bad.. i take that back. My nose must have beed screwed up the last time i tried Envy. I went to a department store on the weekend and sprayed my wrist with 2 shots of Envy. 4 hrs later, 80% of the scent was still there. Strong stuff man. A bit too strong. It’ll cover any sorta mone u put on yourself, guaranteed. I think more than 2 sprays of Envy on a person would likely be a scent OD. It’s got a very over-powering but beautiful scent. So watch out for that. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 12:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-feedback-the-scent-a-cancelled-dinner-and-a-reblend-offer/23478/49 "2006-09-18T00:10:38Z")
> [@Instant Female Magic feedback: 2 sprays for an old girlfriend's surprise visit](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-feedback-2-sprays-for-an-old-girlfriends-surprise-visit/64/48): > > my bad.. i take that back. My nose must have beed screwed up the last time i tried Envy. I went to a department store on the weekend and sprayed my wrist with 2 shots of Envy. 4 hrs later, 80% of the scent was still there. Strong stuff man. A bit too strong. It’ll cover any sorta mone u put on yourself, guaranteed. I think more than 2 sprays of Envy on a person would likely be a scent OD. It’s got a very over-powering but beautiful scent. So watch out for that. I’ll have to go check out what it smells like. It sounds like good stuff. I hope they carry it at the mall. ---
**Author:** ![Rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rob)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 12:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-feedback-the-scent-a-cancelled-dinner-and-a-reblend-offer/23478/50 "2006-09-18T00:30:05Z")
> [@Instant Female Magic feedback: 2 sprays for an old girlfriend's surprise visit](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-feedback-2-sprays-for-an-old-girlfriends-surprise-visit/64/46): > > I wore just one spray of Ammunition last night, and had a gay guy tell me I smelled like animal urine… which I couldn’t smell at all… and neither could my “sniffer” who usually says Instant Female Magic smells bad. That would be him noticing the androstenone, of course… I’m pretty sure he noticed it because he was gay… but… I’m not sure Ammunition is well suited for a cover scent since it’s already trying to cover something. > > Eternity seems to work at 1:1, although I don’t much like Eternity anymore… and Akuto works, too. Maybe he noticed it because he was gay… or maybe he just noticed because he was hitting on you =P ---
**Author:** ![nfs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nfs/32/1656_2.png) [@nfs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nfs)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 12:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-feedback-the-scent-a-cancelled-dinner-and-a-reblend-offer/23478/51 "2006-09-18T00:47:34Z")
Catlord, also check out Versace Man. That one is a long lasting one and has a bit of neroli in it too. Supposed to be a match for Leos and also a great scent. ---
**Author:** ![texaspete](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/texaspete/32/1612_2.png) [@texaspete](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/texaspete)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 1:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-feedback-the-scent-a-cancelled-dinner-and-a-reblend-offer/23478/52 "2006-09-18T01:10:27Z")
> [@Rob](#): > > Maybe he noticed it because he was gay… or maybe he just noticed because he was hitting on you =P Y’all lost me here — Catlord, are you implying that only gay guys can smell it? I don’t see how that’s possible. I smell NPA very clearly (every once in awhile - the smell comes and goes), and certain mixes of LS gel packs smell a lot like different types of Deer Lure to me. ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 2:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-feedback-the-scent-a-cancelled-dinner-and-a-reblend-offer/23478/53 "2006-09-18T02:29:19Z")
> [@gabe1970](#): > > I finally broke down and bought a “To Go” sized bottle of Instant Female Magic. So what do you guys use for covering it, and how/ where do you apply it? I’ve got Armani Black Code, Axe “Touch” and Tag “Midnight”, and have also ordered Ammunition. I’m thinking of ordering Chikara from LS and/or buying more cheaper, musky colognes as cover scents (Jovan, Obsession?) I like Escada Aftershave, used as a cologne. Would Ammo or Chikara work as a cover scent? Check it out first. I don’t notice anything bad in the way of “stink” from IFM. I don’t use a cover with it (came with clary sage already in it). Key point is there have been no complaints from the ladies. Remember it’s for them, not you. Plus “covering” with another [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/)/mix may effect to outcome of results from IFM. Try it alone first, then if you can, add other “individual” products one at a time to see what happens. (like IO, IH, IShine, etc.) Rmember what stinks to one user is often just fine or not noticeable to another, and the main concern should be your “target’s” reactions anyway. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 3:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-feedback-the-scent-a-cancelled-dinner-and-a-reblend-offer/23478/54 "2006-09-18T03:34:32Z")
> [@gabe1970](#): > > Y’all lost me here — Catlord, are you implying that only gay guys can smell it? I don’t see how that’s possible. I smell NPA very clearly (every once in awhile - the smell comes and goes), and certain mixes of LS gel packs smell a lot like different types of Deer Lure to me. Not implying anything. Some people can smell it, and some cant. He can, gay or not. ---
**Author:** ![texaspete](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/texaspete/32/1612_2.png) [@texaspete](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/texaspete)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 3:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-feedback-the-scent-a-cancelled-dinner-and-a-reblend-offer/23478/55 "2006-09-18T03:36:34Z")
So is that “deer lure” / animal piss smell adrostenone? ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 4:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-feedback-the-scent-a-cancelled-dinner-and-a-reblend-offer/23478/56 "2006-09-18T04:41:38Z")
> [@Rob](#): > > Maybe he noticed it because he was gay… or maybe he just noticed because he was hitting on you =P That’s not hitting on me. He can just smell stuff I can’t. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 4:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-feedback-the-scent-a-cancelled-dinner-and-a-reblend-offer/23478/57 "2006-09-18T04:44:32Z")
> [@gabe1970](#): > > So is that “deer lure” / animal piss smell adrostenone? Androstenone smells like animal urine to most women who can smell it and some guys. It is referred to as cat piss a lot. Most guys either can’t smell it or can smell a “dusty” smell. You can learn to smell it if you can’t to begin with, apparently. ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 5:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-feedback-the-scent-a-cancelled-dinner-and-a-reblend-offer/23478/58 "2006-09-18T17:40:12Z")
> [@Instant Female Magic feedback: 2 sprays for an old girlfriend's surprise visit](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-feedback-2-sprays-for-an-old-girlfriends-surprise-visit/64/57): > > Most guys either can’t smell it or can smell a “dusty” smell. You can learn to smell it if you can’t to begin with, apparently. The figure most often quoted is 1 in 4 can’t smell it, not exactly “most guys”. ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 6:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-feedback-the-scent-a-cancelled-dinner-and-a-reblend-offer/23478/59 "2006-09-18T18:38:15Z")
I remember J. V. Kohl has mentioned somewhere that people with more estrogen have better capability of smelling -none, which means a higher percentage of women can smell -none compared to men. Also, he mentioned that people can develop receptors to smell it after continued exposure. In the research paper Kohl cited it took the author only weeks of continuous exposure to -none to start being able to smell it. I just wish I could smell it, will reduce so much of my problems with -none.🙄 ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 6:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-feedback-the-scent-a-cancelled-dinner-and-a-reblend-offer/23478/60 "2006-09-18T18:48:57Z")
> [@Mtnjim](#): > > The figure most often quoted is 1 in 4 can’t smell it, not exactly “most guys”. I thought that was 1 in 4 who _could_ smell it? In any case, most guys _I_ know… cannot smell none. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-feedback-the-scent-a-cancelled-dinner-and-a-reblend-offer/23478.md?page=2)