# Instant Female Magic For Women

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-for-women/784>\
**Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [October 25, 2006, 10:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-for-women/784 "2006-10-25T22:44:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![ilsa](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ilsa/32/1552_2.png) [@ilsa](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ilsa)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 10:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-for-women/784/1 "2006-10-25T22:44:10Z")

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I have been using this every day for the past couple of days. I have generally been applying 2-3 sprays in the morning as a pick-me up. One to my neck, one spray directly in my face(with eyes closed of course), and one spray on a wrist, which I then rub together with the other wrist.

I seem to have an instant “brightening” of my mood. It is almost as if the sun is shining a little bit brighter. It isn’t an outrageously dramatic effect, but it is more of a subtle, easy-going, light-hearted mood.

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 3:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-for-women/784/2 "2006-10-26T03:02:50Z")

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> [@ilsa](#):
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> I have been using this every day for the past couple of days. I have generally been applying 2-3 sprays in the morning as a pick-me up. One to my neck, one spray directly in my face(with eyes closed of course), and one spray on a wrist, which I then rub together with the other wrist.
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> I seem to have an instant “brightening” of my mood. It is almost as if the sun is shining a little bit brighter. It isn’t an outrageously dramatic effect, but it is more of a subtle, easy-going, light-hearted mood.

Funny, it has quite the opposite effect on me. It has a dampening of my mood…laziness and apathy. Funny how it can be such a feel good mone to women, and such a downer for us guys.

But ah if it makes ya’ll feel like that, its definately worth wearing

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**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 7:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-for-women/784/3 "2006-10-26T07:53:14Z")

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Hi Sigma..

Not sure if you are aware or not, but Ilsa is talking about the brand-new version of IFM - for WOMEN.

It’s not the same as the version for men. It launched maybe a fortnight ago.

It’s not something I want or need, as I have no use for something to mellow my mood, but I do know that both Ilsa and Noblelady were looking forward to trying it, so that’s great that Ilsa is getting what she hoped to out of it. 🙂

I am considering purchasing it for a Christmas gift for a friend who turns into Godzilla-woman at her time of the month, as it would seem to be of great benefit to her.

Thanks for the report, Ilsa.

Ail 🙂

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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 10:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-for-women/784/4 "2006-10-26T10:10:12Z")

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Yes it is interesting that IFM **For Women** uses Estratetraenol as well as A1. I guess the Androtics crew (Jasmin and Michael) have worked out that Est works well at increasing comfort for women too?

Visionary

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**Author:** ![gklite](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gklite/32/1489_2.png) [@gklite](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gklite)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 11:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-for-women/784/5 "2006-10-26T11:09:12Z")

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Androstadienone is the most prominent androstene present on male human axillary hair and on the male axillary skin surface. Its effects on females are significant reduction of nervousness, tension and other negative feeling states. Please check full article on:  
[http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list\_uids=10737699&dopt=Citation](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=10737699&dopt=Citation)

I suspects Androstadienone & Estratetraenol are two of the three ingredients in IFM? Whats the third one??

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**Author:** ![gklite](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gklite/32/1489_2.png) [@gklite](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gklite)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 11:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-for-women/784/6 "2006-10-26T11:40:42Z")

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I suspects [Androstadienone](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/) & [Estratetraenol](https://phera.com/) are two of the three ingredients in [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/)?

Whats the third one??

> [@Androstadienone: reduces nervousness in women, but may increase perceived pain](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone/787):
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> [Androstadienone](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/) is the most prominent androstene present on male human axillary hair and on the male axillary skin surface. Its effects on females are significant reduction of nervousness, tension and other negative feeling states. Check full article on: [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list\_uids=16546426&dopt=Citation](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=16546426&dopt=Citation) In the absence of pain, androstadienone improved mood only in women, However, these positive mood changes did not persist with the introducti…

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**Author:** ![ilsa](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ilsa/32/1552_2.png) [@ilsa](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ilsa)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 11:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-for-women/784/7 "2006-10-26T11:43:12Z")

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> [@gklite](#):
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> I suspects [Androstadienone](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/) & [Estratetraenol](https://phera.com/) are two of the three ingredients in [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/)? Whats the third one??
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> Check my post on [Androstadienone](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/):
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> [Androstadienone: reduces nervousness in women, but may increase perceived pain](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone/787)

My guess would be TAA.

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**Author:** ![ilsa](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ilsa/32/1552_2.png) [@ilsa](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ilsa)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 12:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-for-women/784/8 "2006-10-26T12:10:03Z")

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I might want to add that every day that I have used this product, I have been in a very neutral mood to begin with, and not at all _down_ or in a bad mood.

It will be interesting to see the effect that this has on my disposition, when and if I get my period again. I can be quite a bear during my ‘monthlies’, but my periods seem to be slowly disappearing ever since I have had a Mirena IUD in place.

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**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 12:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-for-women/784/9 "2006-10-26T12:35:19Z")

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> [@gklite](#):
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> I suspects [Androstadienone](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/) & [Estratetraenol](https://phera.com/) are two of the three ingredients in [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/)?
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> Whats the third one??

My guess would be TAH considering how it in itself makes women sweet and calm according to reports.

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**Author:** ![ilsa](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ilsa/32/1552_2.png) [@ilsa](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ilsa)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 12:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-for-women/784/10 "2006-10-26T12:57:01Z")

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TAH would be my second guess, it is one of my favorites. But isn’t TAA one of the major components of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/)?

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**Author:** ![ilsa](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ilsa/32/1552_2.png) [@ilsa](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ilsa)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 8:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-for-women/784/11 "2006-10-26T20:10:33Z")

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I think two sprays is my dosage limit. At three sprays I almost feel a little spacey, and I have a difficult time focusing on anything. Two sprays is just right.

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 8:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-for-women/784/12 "2006-10-26T20:35:22Z")

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> [@Ail](#):
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> Hi Sigma..
> 
> Not sure if you are aware or not, but Ilsa is talking about the brand-new version of Instant Female Magic - for WOMEN.
> 
> It’s not the same as the version for men. It launched maybe a fortnight ago.
> 
> It’s not something I want or need, as I have no use for something to mellow my mood, but I do know that both Ilsa and Noblelady were looking forward to trying it, so that’s great that Ilsa is getting what she hoped to out of it. 🙂
> 
> I am considering purchasing it for a Christmas gift for a friend who turns into Godzilla-woman at her time of the month, as it would seem to be of great benefit to her.
> 
> Thanks for the report, Ilsa.
> 
> Ail 🙂

oooOOOo. Yeah estratetraenol does have a nice uplifting effect from it, and it seems to ‘attract’ people to you…not really in a sense that they’re sexually attracted to you. I get some good reactions from it. Guys seem very buddy, buddy…I don’t know if thats a good thing or not. But I have gotten some results from women as well.

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**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 8:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-for-women/784/13 "2006-10-26T20:47:24Z")

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If I add EST to any sex-mix, it instantly gives everything the “Cuddle factor” and is ideal if I don’t want the animalistic intimate encounters that result from me using EW and ISexi/W spiked with EW.

EST definitely converts “The Man” from “Bear with A Sore Head” after a bad day at work, into a bit of a Teddy-Bear - which is lovely. 🙂

Ail 🙂

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**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2006, 12:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-for-women/784/14 "2006-10-27T00:44:25Z")

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Can any of you IFM users compare it to androstadienone? I have a little bottle of that from L-S and find it somewhat helpful premenstrually, not dramatically (kind of a chill-pill effect; I wouldn’t say it goes so far as to _brighten_) but I’ve never tried it any other time.

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**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2006, 12:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-for-women/784/15 "2006-10-27T00:59:50Z")

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To the best of my knowledge IFM is a “debugged” A-1 in the sense that it is a mix with the same basic effects of A-1 with much less of a “depressing” effect on men. It may be pretty much the same effects on women no matter which one you use.

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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2006, 7:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-for-women/784/16 "2006-10-27T07:47:17Z")

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> [@Rbt](#):
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> To the best of my knowledge Instant Female Magic is a “debugged” A-1 in the sense that it is a mix with the same basic effects of A-1 with much less of a “depressing” effect on men. It may be pretty much the same effects on women no matter which one you use.

Rbt, I think IFM **for women** , the new product, is actually made to increase comfort for female wearers whereas IFM for men has actually been around for a while and is the version you speak of (has A1 debugged to lessen the ‘depressive effect’ on men).

Visionary

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**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2006, 6:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-for-women/784/17 "2006-10-27T18:31:42Z")

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> [@Socrates](#):
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> Rbt, I think Instant Female Magic **for women** , the new product, is actually made to increase comfort for female wearers whereas IFM for men has actually been around for a while and is the version you speak of (has Androstadienone debugged to lessen the ‘depressive effect’ on men).
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> Visionary

Probably correct. The original question only asked about Androstadienone and IFM without specifying if it was the “woman’s” or “men’s” version of IFM. As the straight A-1 product (eg from LS) is not gender specific, I just answered the question that way. Should probably remember to clarify all the fine points.

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**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2006, 3:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-for-women/784/18 "2006-12-20T03:15:36Z")

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I’ve tried this several times and like its effects better than straight androstadienone from Love-Scent. But this evening, I’d had a bear of a day and applied 1 shot of IFM/w and 2 of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) to my neck, right before going out for dinner (improving my mood, I might add!) As I walked up to my husband a minute later, he asked “WHAT do you have on?!”

“Just some pheromones” I said, curious what else he’d say.

“Smells like goat piss” he said. “Did you pee on your head?”

HAR! Sure enough, he thinks it smells terrible and was worried we’d get thrown out of the restaurant - and I LOVE it. Even if it does smell a little … well, sweaty I’d say, more than pissy. I thought this was supposed to have an herbal blend added to it, that partially masked the scent, no? My To-Go bottle doesn’t smell very herbal - it’s fine for me, I like it, but I do wonder if the scent didn’t get added.

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**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2006, 6:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-for-women/784/19 "2006-12-20T18:48:39Z")

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They were doing a clary sage scent at one time but I think they may have dropped it. I like the sage. Got a new To Go of IFM but I have’t sniffed it yet.

If it indeed comes “scentless” I hope we can request the Clary Sage (or something) as an option.

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**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2006, 7:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-for-women/784/20 "2006-12-20T19:17:13Z")

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The full size of IFM for Women gives you the choice of herbal or unscented. The To-Go size does not … and I’m not sure which I got! But for sure when I reorder, I’ll ask for the herbal scent. Don’t need to enhance my goat-girl reputation any more.

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