# Instant Female Magic no longer sold: when did it go and what replaced it? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 11, 2010, 12:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-no-longer-sold-when-did-it-go-and-what-replaced-it/42503 "2010-10-11T00:35:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Standard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@Standard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Standard)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 12:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-no-longer-sold-when-did-it-go-and-what-replaced-it/42503/1 "2010-10-11T00:35:27Z")
Call me slow but I just noticed Instance Female Magic is no longer being sold on Androtics. When did this happen? Was it incorporated in another product or mix? ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 12:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-no-longer-sold-when-did-it-go-and-what-replaced-it/42503/2 "2010-10-11T00:41:43Z")
> [@Standard](#): > > Call me slow but I just noticed Instance Female Magic is no longer being sold on Androtics. When did this happen? Was it incorporated in another product or mix? You are about a year and half late? lol ---
**Author:** ![Standard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@Standard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Standard)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 12:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-no-longer-sold-when-did-it-go-and-what-replaced-it/42503/3 "2010-10-11T00:50:43Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > You are about a year and half late? lol So what happened? I had thought it was a popular product. Did it change names? ---
**Author:** ![coconuts15](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@coconuts15](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/coconuts15)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 1:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-no-longer-sold-when-did-it-go-and-what-replaced-it/42503/4 "2010-10-11T01:16:50Z")
I’m probably completely wrong, but I thought that it was removed due to unwanted affects on some people. I thought that it sometimes turned to Instant Female Rage. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 2:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-no-longer-sold-when-did-it-go-and-what-replaced-it/42503/5 "2010-10-11T02:01:38Z")
> [@coconuts15](#): > > I’m probably completely wrong, but I thought that it was removed due to unwanted affects on some people. I thought that it sometimes turned to Instant Female Rage. No, A1 has been shown to cause depression on some men. What Androtics said was they were not comfortable with that side effect so no longer offered IFM and A1. Moreover, there is a patent on A1 with any scent added onto it lasting until 2012 (thanks tisha). > [@Standard](#): > > So what happened? I had thought it was a popular product. Did it change names? From what I’ve read in the forum, it wasn’t as popular as it was now. You can get straight Androstadienone from love scent and make your own mixes from there. AD sells Perfumers Alcohol that you can make a mix for your own. K-Train made an awesome awesome writeup > [@Androstadienone Guide](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668): > > I’ve been thinking about doing this for the longest time but recent events have finally pushed me to do this. In an effort to cut down on the repeated questions, but at the same time encourage more result oriented posts I am making this A-1 guide. Please remember I am NOT a scientist, but merely a tester who is reporting what he’s seen and also info gathered from other fellow members. Table of Contents Section 1: What is A-1? Section 2: What are the effects of A-1? Section 3: When is the bes… ---
**Author:** ![England](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/england/32/1163_2.png) [@England](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/England)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 2:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-no-longer-sold-when-did-it-go-and-what-replaced-it/42503/6 "2010-10-11T02:07:29Z")
> [@Standard](#): > > So what happened? I had thought it was a popular product. Did it change names? I belive someone was intentionally using it to cause distressing effects on other men. I read it on a post written by a staffer so I’m pretty sure that’s one of the reasons. ---
**Author:** ![Standard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@Standard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Standard)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 2:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-no-longer-sold-when-did-it-go-and-what-replaced-it/42503/7 "2010-10-11T02:31:24Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > AD sells Perfumers Alcohol that you can make a mix for your own. Hmm I had a quick peek at the perfumes available, a bit disappointed [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) isn’t available for purchase ☹ ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 2:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-no-longer-sold-when-did-it-go-and-what-replaced-it/42503/8 "2010-10-11T02:39:02Z")
> [@Standard](#): > > Hmm I had a quick peek at the perfumes available, a bit disappointed Neroli isn’t available for purchase ☹ [30 mL Bottle :: Mixing Supplies :: Androtics Direct](https://pheromonelabs.com/) Select light fragrance, and its there. ---
**Author:** ![England](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/england/32/1163_2.png) [@England](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/England)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 2:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-no-longer-sold-when-did-it-go-and-what-replaced-it/42503/9 "2010-10-11T02:52:53Z")
Oops Standard did you press the wrong button? Haha! ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 4:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-no-longer-sold-when-did-it-go-and-what-replaced-it/42503/10 "2010-10-11T16:30:54Z")
Actually the reason that IFM was discontinued had NOTHING at all to do with the patent. I keep reading this, but it is incorrect information so I want to make sure the record is not being spread erroneously. MHarris posted quite a while ago that he had gotten wind that a few people were using the product in a dangerous bad way. What he posted was that he found out there was a particular set of women who did not like men for whatever reason. They would buy the A1 and IFM and amp up the A! content to ridiculous amounts and then wear it around men, any man to help onset the depression that is frequently related as an effect of A1. This of course was done intentionally to harm all men. These people were using a product that Androtics sold to harm others a far cry from the Androtics mission statement to make the world a better place. The patent which has been in place since the beginning and will extend a couple more years (the exact date I am uncertain) simply made it illegal to use A1 in any scented product without licensing from Erox. Dial Magnetic has that license and many companies listed as “black hat” by androtics just don’t care about others intellectual property rights. Those companies believe that stealing is OK and eventually will pay the piper when the time comes. Androtics did not use any scent package in IFM. They did use an Essential Oil compound for diffusion but not for scent and that is why IFM always came unscented and was not able to be customized. Harris decided to stop selling it when he learned about the harm that was being perpetrated against humanity with one of his products. His ethics stood in the way of making a profit on something used by a very select few to harm others. Go figure. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 6:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-no-longer-sold-when-did-it-go-and-what-replaced-it/42503/11 "2010-10-11T18:35:19Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > Actually the reason that IFM was discontinued had NOTHING at all to do with the patent. I keep reading this, but it is incorrect information so I want to make sure the record is not being spread erroneously. > > MHarris posted quite a while ago that he had gotten wind that a few people were using the product in a dangerous bad way. What he posted was that he found out there was a particular set of women who did not like men for whatever reason. They would buy the A1 and IFM and amp up the A! content to ridiculous amounts and then wear it around men, any man to help onset the depression that is frequently related as an effect of A1. This of course was done intentionally to harm all men. These people were using a product that Androtics sold to harm others a far cry from the Androtics mission statement to make the world a better place. > > The patent which has been in place since the beginning and will extend a couple more years (the exact date I am uncertain) simply made it illegal to use A1 in any scented product without licensing from Erox. Dial Magnetic has that license and many companies listed as “black hat” by androtics just don’t care about others intellectual property rights. Those companies believe that stealing is OK and eventually will pay the piper when the time comes. > > Androtics did not use any scent package in IFM. They did use an Essential Oil compound for diffusion but not for scent and that is why IFM always came unscented and was not able to be customized. > > Harris decided to stop selling it when he learned about the harm that was being perpetrated against humanity with one of his products. His ethics stood in the way of making a profit on something used by a very select few to harm others. Go figure. Thanks Steve, I read that somewhere and I mixed up the details regarding IFM and A1. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 7:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-no-longer-sold-when-did-it-go-and-what-replaced-it/42503/12 "2010-10-11T19:46:27Z")
I knew you were a TROUBLE maker 😃 ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 8:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-no-longer-sold-when-did-it-go-and-what-replaced-it/42503/13 "2010-10-11T20:15:10Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > I knew you were a TROUBLE maker 😃 Had to Mickaelia promised me a whipping if I kept making trouble 😃 ---
**Author:** ![fullmoonnow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fullmoonnow/32/1821_2.png) [@fullmoonnow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fullmoonnow)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 2:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-no-longer-sold-when-did-it-go-and-what-replaced-it/42503/14 "2010-10-12T02:30:57Z")
> [@coconuts15](#): > > I’m probably completely wrong, but I thought that it was removed due to unwanted affects on some people. I thought that it sometimes turned to Instant Female Rage. ROTFL sorry that made me almost fall off my chair