# Instant Female Magic - Out of stock for ages! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 17, 2009, 10:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-out-of-stock-for-ages/29950 "2009-06-17T10:22:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 9:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-out-of-stock-for-ages/29950/21 "2009-06-17T21:46:28Z")
> [@WildFlower](#): > > Making a mix of pheromones and not knowing what to expect can sure be fun, but I still like to know what, and how much of what I’m mixing. Oh we sorta knew what to expect. We tested each mone on its own before mixing.😃 Sorta like they recommend today. ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 9:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-out-of-stock-for-ages/29950/22 "2009-06-17T21:57:40Z")
> [@Mtnjim](#): > > Oh we sorta knew what to expect. We tested each mone on its own before mixing.😃 Sorta like they recommend today. Yes, but with something as sticky as A1, I find doses to be important factor. nol’s you can pile on without a care in the word and you can predict what kind of reactions you will get. You might know what to expect from a molecule like A1, but if you don’t know what doses you’re getting there’s only so much sweet spot finding you can do. The reactions I get at 2 sprays of [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) are much more potent than at 3 sprays where effects seem to deplete a bit. I’m just fighting the case that the A1 at LS is far less appealing to myself, than the Instant Female Magic sold here. If it wasn’t out of stock, we wouldn’t even be having this debate, which just goes to show that I’m not the only one in the Instant Female Magic corner. ---
**Author:** ![Legs\_on\_Approach](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/legs_on_approach/32/2134_2.png) [@Legs\_on\_Approach](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Legs_on_Approach)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 10:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-out-of-stock-for-ages/29950/23 "2009-06-17T22:28:15Z")
so…hmmm…IFM stories anyone? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![BLADE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blade/32/2083_2.png) [@BLADE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BLADE)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 10:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-out-of-stock-for-ages/29950/24 "2009-06-17T22:41:14Z")
Ahh but you can dose even a non-spray bottle product, as long as you know what the concentration of the bottle is and use an accurate dropper… I have one that I know gives a .05ml drop and have used it for ages with The Edge once I found my sweet spot with that was 30mcg of product… Even with sprays the dose can sometimes be variable - air in the hose or, my personal foible, spraying from inches away and missing myself altogether 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 2:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-out-of-stock-for-ages/29950/25 "2009-06-18T02:10:44Z")
> [@WildFlower](#): > > What use is a Pheromone for testing, research, experimenting or even daily casual wear if it doesn’t come dosed? For sure it might be better if you’re an advanced user interested in making your own home mixes and want value for money. But frankly a spray product, dosed so you know you’re getting the same specified dose each time is far more attractive to myself. I wouldn’t buy that particular bottle of A1 from LS unless things got really desperate, and I can see why others feel the same. Luckily I still have a 1/4 full 30ml bottle and a 1/2 full ToGo bottle of Instant Female Magic to last me till it comes back. If I did run out, I’d play with some p74, p93, Bnol and rone based mixes before I bought an undosed product of A1. I’m not too fond of watered down “dosed” spray products. It’s like you don’t have much of a choice, i.e., you have to use as directed and it’s useless for homebrew mixes. Plus, why pay for all that alcohol carrier in a big friggen bottle with a cheap sprayhead? Concentrated chemset products can be mixed with other chemset mones, scent added, diluted, etc., so you can use it any way you want. You’re in control, not someone else. With that said, I really like certain AD products but I buy them in 4X formulas when possible so I have more flexibility. A314 is one of the few I like as is, albeit I prefer the LS variant. Being in control of your mone signature is what it’s all about. If off-the-rack works for you, you’re lucky. They usually don’t work too well for me. I like my mones tweaked for my persona, goals and body chemistry. And nobody but me can do that. ---
**Author:** ![OoohYahhh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ooohyahhh/32/1274_2.png) [@OoohYahhh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OoohYahhh)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 2:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-out-of-stock-for-ages/29950/26 "2009-06-18T02:12:29Z")
> [@Mtnjim](#): > > Well, then there are us “old school” guys who have been playing with mones since before there were “dosed” mones. We had to do “home mixes”, part of the fun was seeing what resulted.😃 > [@mikotorocks714](#): > > LOL, nice Jim. > > Thank you old pheromone old timers, without you pheromones would still be even more foggy than they are now. I’ll second that! We should raise a toast to the ancient ones from 5 or 6 years ago. We’ve come a very long way. And couldn’t have without them. Before you try chemset brews, you should ask yourself a few questions. 1. Do I have mixing tools to accurately measure and dispense small quantity liquids? You can do this out of a cigar box if you need to, but it is nice to have a dedicated area, a mixing bench. The main question is can you count on being able to dispense really accurate quantities? 1. Can I accurately calculate dilution rates? The best mix calculaters are very closly held secrets but if you can do a little math and a few volume conversions you can figure out the basics. 1. Do I have perfumers alcohol? This is the primary solvent. Rubbing alcohol just won’t gitit. Don’t ask. Do a few searchs. Get yourself a little education on this. Until then, the first line of the catalog description is probably right. “Warning: Do NOT buy this if you are a newbie” \_oohYahhh (the O is on loan to SteveO) ---
**Author:** ![silentscope](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/silentscope/32/2218_2.png) [@silentscope](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/silentscope)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 5:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-out-of-stock-for-ages/29950/27 "2009-06-18T05:52:29Z")
I’m mad as Hell [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/b/b3d5bb0f0b3f16239aae6d3741d0d4b582380765.jpeg "Mad As Hell ...") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMBZDwf9dok) ---
**Author:** ![OoohYahhh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ooohyahhh/32/1274_2.png) [@OoohYahhh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OoohYahhh)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 8:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-out-of-stock-for-ages/29950/28 "2009-06-18T08:02:53Z")
> [@Legs\_on\_Approach](#): > > so…hmmm…IFM stories anyone? 😛 > [@diamond](#): > > Use the **search** button Luke, trust your feelings!!! there are loads of threads already on that subject. > > Androstedienone, the main component, is subject to a patent restricting it’s use with a perfume element. It is also expensive and has little research potential, that combined with it’s depressive effects on some men has led to AD removing it from their line up. > > IFM will be back, not for some time ( possibly months) and maybe not in the same form. > > If you are that desperate, the common advice is to go over to LS and buy some chemset A1 That’s the story. There are patent conflicts. There were complaints about the smell. And some men occasionally reported depression. So as a result, IFM will not be back for a very long time, if ever. Let me rephrase that. It is highly unlikely that IFM will ever be back, and it does, it will probably be in name only, in order to preserve the trademark. > [@diamond](#): > > … > Just remember, if you see something over there that takes your fancy, come back here and do a **search** for it first, then make your decision > [@diamond](#): > > The whole point of putatives is that we are supposed to test them ‘blind’ however, a **search** will reveal results on several that have some similar effects. > [@OoohYahhh](#): > > … > Don’t ask. Do a few **searchs**. Get yourself a little education on this. > … If that doesn’t interest you, there are dozens of other things you can buy off the shelf at the store and have a barrel of fun with right out of the box. \_oohYahhh (the O is on loan to SteveO) [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-out-of-stock-for-ages/29950.md?page=1)