# Instant Female Magic out of stock: what to use instead, and can I pre-order? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 7, 2009, 1:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-out-of-stock-what-to-use-instead-and-can-i-pre-order/27807 "2009-04-07T01:13:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![APV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/34f0e0/32.png) [@APV](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/APV)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2009, 1:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-out-of-stock-what-to-use-instead-and-can-i-pre-order/27807/1 "2009-04-07T01:13:44Z")
what do you guys recommend to use instead of IFM since its out of stock? and is there a way to pre order or something? i have to get a couple of bottles when they come out. I never used IFM but for what ive read its like the phero that is always part of the equation lol ---
**Author:** ![revivia](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/revivia/32/2124_2.png) [@revivia](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/revivia)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2009, 1:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-out-of-stock-what-to-use-instead-and-can-i-pre-order/27807/2 "2009-04-07T01:33:19Z")
There has been tons of posts about this same subject the last few days. Both Wolfy and Gegogi provided answers to that question. Just type IFM and their names and you’ll see posts come up im sure. ---
**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2009, 1:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-out-of-stock-what-to-use-instead-and-can-i-pre-order/27807/3 "2009-04-07T01:39:39Z")
Link it… I’m search disabled… lol j/k ---
**Author:** ![revivia](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/revivia/32/2124_2.png) [@revivia](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/revivia)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2009, 1:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-out-of-stock-what-to-use-instead-and-can-i-pre-order/27807/4 "2009-04-07T01:44:33Z")
Gegogi recommended Androstadienone from Love Scent. I’m surprised you didn’t see his suggestion, because I saw you post on that thread lol. Here is his quote by Gegogi himself. "LS sells chemset Androstadienone. I have the full strength version and it rocks. 1 or 2 drops and PMS bitchfest is zip. Killer shit. More concentrated than [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), not as funky smelling as Instant Female Magic but realize no buffers if you’re sensitive to Androstadienone. " He also prefers this product over IFM…Lemme try to find Wolfy’s post now. _Shakes head at the thread finding handicapped people_ 😛 ---
**Author:** ![revivia](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/revivia/32/2124_2.png) [@revivia](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/revivia)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2009, 1:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-out-of-stock-what-to-use-instead-and-can-i-pre-order/27807/5 "2009-04-07T01:46:05Z")
Damn Dj!! 😮 lol. That’s 0-2 haha. You also posted on this thread. > [@Closest thing to IFM?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/closest-thing-to-ifm/27642): > > Just wondering what the closest thing to IFM/m was? Even if it’s a combo. I’m not necessarily looking for anything sexual, mainly that close/cuddly/comfort vibe. I’ve heard that LS has a scented version, but that it’s not as well buffered as IFM. Is this true, and if so what could be used to buffer it? According to admin, IFM is absent until summer.frowning I predict the first five batches will sell out within 10 minutes of being posted. Maybe 20 if they post in the wee hours of the mor… That is Wolfy’s own recipe for his version of IFM. Hope that helps. ---
**Author:** ![jmcinaz2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jmcinaz2/32/898_2.png) [@jmcinaz2](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jmcinaz2)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2009, 3:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-out-of-stock-what-to-use-instead-and-can-i-pre-order/27807/6 "2009-04-07T03:40:34Z")
> [@revivia](#): > > There has been tons of posts about this same subject the last few days. Both Wolfy and Gegogi provided answers to that question. Just type IFM and their names and you’ll see posts come up im sure. APV aint gonna hit the “thanks” button for you! tsk tsk… (just teasing) ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2009, 4:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-out-of-stock-what-to-use-instead-and-can-i-pre-order/27807/7 "2009-04-07T04:46:44Z")
a gal recommends androsterone. extremely comforting. dienone only affects a percentage of women. ---
**Author:** ![simplyme101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f8ce5/32.png) [@simplyme101](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/simplyme101)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2009, 5:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-out-of-stock-what-to-use-instead-and-can-i-pre-order/27807/8 "2009-04-07T05:06:29Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > a gal recommends androsterone. > extremely comforting. > > dienone only affects a percentage of women. Does the age of the ladies play a factor? ---
**Author:** ![holdencaulfield](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/holdencaulfield/32/281_2.png) [@holdencaulfield](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/holdencaulfield)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 4:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-out-of-stock-what-to-use-instead-and-can-i-pre-order/27807/9 "2009-04-08T04:37:05Z")
Any Idea when IFM will be back in stock? ---
**Author:** ![revivia](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/revivia/32/2124_2.png) [@revivia](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/revivia)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 4:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-out-of-stock-what-to-use-instead-and-can-i-pre-order/27807/10 "2009-04-08T04:39:25Z")
None is a very hard thing to mess with. You can have an OD with it very easily. It can also lead to instant bitch factor, male aggresiveness, rage, etc. The IFM or the other product Gegogi recommended by Instant PMS Be Gone. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![revivia](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/revivia/32/2124_2.png) [@revivia](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/revivia)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 4:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-out-of-stock-what-to-use-instead-and-can-i-pre-order/27807/11 "2009-04-08T04:41:21Z")
I thank people whenever I find any information useful. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ball.Saxbury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ball.saxbury/32/1063_2.png) [@Ball.Saxbury](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ball.Saxbury)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 8:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-out-of-stock-what-to-use-instead-and-can-i-pre-order/27807/12 "2009-04-08T08:34:13Z")
The reason I suddenly want to get my hands on products containing androstadieonone was finding some research articles on [PubMed.gov](http://PubMed.gov) proving that exposure in women causes their mood to improve. With other pheros, androstenone or androsterone, there’s a significant lack of research. So, seeing actual scientific proof in a double-blind study demonstrating the efficacy of androstadienone made me really want it. Of course, this happened a few days after they ran out of IFM. Damn! ---
**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 8:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-out-of-stock-what-to-use-instead-and-can-i-pre-order/27807/13 "2009-04-08T08:52:54Z")
I dunno, I know I have some coming hopefully. I believe a 1/2 a togo from someone… I am just concerned about the “smell” of it… ---
**Author:** ![APV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/34f0e0/32.png) [@APV](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/APV)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 9:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-out-of-stock-what-to-use-instead-and-can-i-pre-order/27807/14 "2009-04-08T09:43:12Z")
IFM or Androstadienone seems like a fundamental component in any combination, from what ive read it “disarms” girls from their defenses then its just let the other pheros do their work lol Ive to get some from LS to test 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 9:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-out-of-stock-what-to-use-instead-and-can-i-pre-order/27807/15 "2009-04-08T09:48:44Z")
“from what ive read it “disarms” girls from their defenses then its just let the other pheros do their work lol” … I hope so… I need some lovin lmfao j/k … I am very picky who I take home. When I am not drinking… or it is dart night… which are Wednesday and Thursday nights… or when I am throwing darts or drinking in General which may also fall on Mondays, Tuesdays, or Saturdays… Sunday is rest… I need my rest after dart nights… I am joking, I kid I kid… but I am rather selective… I just love attenation haah ! ---
**Author:** ![matthie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5ac83/32.png) [@matthie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/matthie)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 3:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-out-of-stock-what-to-use-instead-and-can-i-pre-order/27807/16 "2009-04-08T15:41:12Z")
i got some Androstadienone from the other place, cha cha cha~ 😃 DESTROY THE FRIEND ZONE SHIELD!!! ---
**Author:** ![aequitas300](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@aequitas300](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/aequitas300)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 2:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-out-of-stock-what-to-use-instead-and-can-i-pre-order/27807/17 "2009-05-01T02:40:50Z")
If anyone is willing to sell their bottle… lol ---
**Author:** ![TheCentaur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@TheCentaur](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheCentaur)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 8:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-out-of-stock-what-to-use-instead-and-can-i-pre-order/27807/18 "2009-05-01T20:25:11Z")
whats kind of funny, is when you run through the forum on the ‘other site’ some of the comments about androstedienone are about ‘waking up’ the vno, and not improving mood. so adding a litle Dienone to any mix should boost it, like TAF does, right? at least it makes sense for me to think that the microgram quantities in a perfume would help it ‘smell nicer’, even though what you’re smelling is just a ‘mood improving’ phero. the MSG of the [pheromone](https://a314.com/) world. any thoughts? even though I still crash on IFM, I’d trade nearly anything for a 30 ml bottle…