# Instant Female Magic Self Effects **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 5, 2008, 2:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-self-effects/23662 "2008-12-05T02:33:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SCoupe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scoupe/32/2101_2.png) [@SCoupe](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SCoupe)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 2:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-self-effects/23662/1 "2008-12-05T02:33:21Z")
Can someone please help with self effects I seem to be experiencing when using Female Magic. Only used it twice but I seem to eventually become a lil irritable and caught myself being a little too aggressive the second time. Maybe I’m just not man enough for it. Help ? ---
**Author:** ![masterllama](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bcef8e/32.png) [@masterllama](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/masterllama)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 2:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-self-effects/23662/2 "2008-12-05T02:45:12Z")
The reported self-effects for SOME guys is a little depression. If you wanna avoid self-effects, spray away from the face like the wrists or the back of the head and you should be okay. ---
**Author:** ![awesom\_o](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/awesom_o/32/2138_2.png) [@awesom\_o](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/awesom_o)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 3:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-self-effects/23662/3 "2008-12-05T03:26:24Z")
back of the head back of the head chant with me back of the head back of the head :\> ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 4:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-self-effects/23662/4 "2008-12-05T04:51:15Z")
Wrists/backs of hands is better than back of head, in my opinion. Gets moved around more, leading to more dispersion too. ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 5:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-self-effects/23662/5 "2008-12-05T05:16:19Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > Wrists/backs of hands is better than back of head, in my opinion. Gets moved around more, leading to more dispersion too. +1… ---
**Author:** ![SCoupe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scoupe/32/2101_2.png) [@SCoupe](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SCoupe)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 1:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-self-effects/23662/6 "2008-12-05T13:59:32Z")
> [@awesom\_o](#): > > back of the head > back of the head > > chant with me > > back of the head > back of the head > > :\> Bak o the hed … got it. ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 2:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-self-effects/23662/7 "2008-12-05T14:05:59Z")
Yep, gets me like that too. I find a single shot of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) to the throat more than covers the downer! Try your IFM with some ammo and shine and you’ll be too busy dealing with the ladies to feel down, believe me 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 5:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-self-effects/23662/8 "2008-12-05T17:29:29Z")
The A1 in IFM, when subject to skin bacteria, eventually breakdowns to androstenone (a1\>nol\>none). If you’re a sweaty bugger and leave it on for extended periods between showers, you be enjoying other benefits. Personally I never–not once–experienced any self-effects from IFM. However the problems with depression for some males is well documented. Common sense: keep all mones the hell away from your face. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 9:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-self-effects/23662/9 "2008-12-05T21:28:59Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > The A1 in IFM, when subject to skin bacteria, eventually breakdowns to androstenone (a1\>nol\>none). If you’re a sweaty bugger and leave it on for extended periods between showers, you be enjoying other benefits. > > Personally I never–not once–experienced any self-effects from IFM. However the problems with depression for some males is well documented. Common sense: keep all mones the hell away from your face. I disagree. While I see your point that mones break down in a specific direction over time, application to or near the face can add a valuable new dimension to the effects you can create with [pheromones](https://a314.com/), as long as you are careful to know and understand the breakdown paths and keep yourself clean for overdose prevention. Lots of women I have encountered seem to have the desire to literally eat (put their mouths on) the location I apply pheromones. What if I apply to the hair on my upper and lower lips? Sounds like a good way to get kissed, to me. Of course I would have to leverage that against the particular pheromone mix and how it will affect me to begin with and as it breaks down… but it’s not hard in most cases to wash up after an evening of fun. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 10:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-self-effects/23662/10 "2008-12-05T22:00:01Z")
That’s fine. Spray away. However, it’s really easy to accidentally get alcohol carriers up your nose or in eyes, not to mention being subject to drinking your own poison. NPA under my nose is worse than ass. And whatever you do, avoid smoking herb or tobacco while applying mones as the alcohol is highly flammable. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 10:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-self-effects/23662/11 "2008-12-05T22:40:52Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > That’s fine. Spray away. However, it’s really easy to accidentally get alcohol carriers up your nose or in eyes, not to mention being subject to drinking your own poison. NPA under my nose is worse than ass. And whatever you do, avoid smoking herb or tobacco while applying mones as the alcohol is highly flammable. Valid concerns. But it’s not hard to close your eyes and mouth, and slightly exhale while you apply, either. 🙂 I would not be using an androstenone based [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) or mix under my nose, because that’s just asking for trouble. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 12:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-self-effects/23662/12 "2008-12-06T00:18:39Z")
The problem for me is I’m often applying on the run in parking lots, cars or bathrooms, often while intoxicated, so it’s easy to fuck up. My fav on-the-run app spots are tummy 'n crotch. Hard to mess up and it encourages women to nibble on your zipper area. ---
**Author:** ![SCoupe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scoupe/32/2101_2.png) [@SCoupe](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SCoupe)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 1:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-self-effects/23662/13 "2008-12-06T01:41:49Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > The problem for me is I’m often applying on the run in parking lots, cars or bathrooms, often while intoxicated, so it’s easy to fuck up. OK … now I understand the concern of sprayin ‘flammable liquids’ around your face. ---
**Author:** ![SCoupe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scoupe/32/2101_2.png) [@SCoupe](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SCoupe)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 1:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-self-effects/23662/14 "2008-12-06T01:43:42Z")
> [@diamond](#): > > Yep, gets me like that too. I find a single shot of Instant Shine to the throat more than covers the downer! > > Try your IFM with some ammo and shine and you’ll be too busy dealing with the ladies to feel down, believe me 😃 Thanks D … goin back in with that one. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 2:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-self-effects/23662/15 "2008-12-06T02:51:09Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > The problem for me is I’m often applying on the run in parking lots, cars or bathrooms, often while intoxicated, so it’s easy to fuck up. My fav on-the-run app spots are tummy 'n crotch. Hard to mess up and it encourages women to nibble on your zipper area. I don’t drink alcohol very often, and I try to apply in still air and enclosed spaces. I have not applied to the crotch very much, I’ll have to try that more as I have the time to get out more often. I usually apply to my face with A314 oil, and occasionally it will be IO or IS or both. Usually, I apply everything but A314 to my neck or below. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 2:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-self-effects/23662/16 "2008-12-06T02:53:18Z")
> [@diamond](#): > > Yep, gets me like that too. I find a single shot of Instant Shine to the throat more than covers the downer! > > Try your IFM with some ammo and shine and you’ll be too busy dealing with the ladies to feel down, believe me 😃 I enjoy that combination, too. Have some very fond memories that I made with 1:2:3 ratio of that.