# Instant Female Magic to calm a shy toddler: would Instant Shine work too? **URL:** \ **Category:** Consumer Products\ **Created:** [September 10, 2008, 4:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-to-calm-a-shy-toddler-would-instant-shine-work-too/23597 "2008-09-10T04:27:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 4:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-to-calm-a-shy-toddler-would-instant-shine-work-too/23597/1 "2008-09-10T04:27:24Z")
**You may view and post in the original thread here :** [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ifm-report-with-children-frat-warning/19186](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-feedback/23478) just had some extended family move in (standard in thailand, you don’t “marry” a girl, you marry her whole family) on a temporary basis while they wait for their new job to start next week which provides accommodation. anyway, one of my new guests is a normally outgoing 2 year old thai girl, (by all accounts, this is first time i’ve met her), problem is whenever she sees this big farang in the house she is very shy, hiding behind her mother/aunt/any other thai. i thought this would be a good time to experiment with [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) and see if any of the positive calming effects i’ve experienced in mature women would provide the extra “comfortable” touch i needed in order to get some small amount of rapport with this baby (and maybe in the future her mother haha 😉) experiment begins on my way home from work, 1 full spray IFM to the back of my head, 1/2 spray to each side of my head. arriving home to find everyone sitting around watching tv and i am immediately spotted by the baby who then hides behind the nearest thai adult. i go to my room to change out of my work slacks and get ready to take the whole gang “chopping”. while everyone else was getting up to get ready to go, i made eye contact and smiled at her as often as i could considering that she had retreated to a very safe distance of about 20 feet away at all times. i knew the car ride would be the important part of this test since the supermarket would provide much too much open space and as we were driving along (i’m driving) i feel a tug on my sleeve from behind and then i hear her giggling and this is the first contact she’s made with me for two days. two or three more tugs and we arrive at the store. for those of you that have never been to asia, women do most of the work, run the households, checkbooks etc so once in the store, the girls (no men in this group apart from me) put the baby in the cart and off they go leaving me to wander while they shop. i stuck around and just walked the aisles with them, babies eyes are on me the entire time they shop. as the cart started to fill up, the baby had to walk and now she is walking within 3 or 4 feet of me the entire time, always looking at me but not scared and keeping major distance. now i seem to be her amusement of the moment and she pinches my leg and runs for cover behind her mother time after time. after a bit of this running around she is tired and begging for a ride, the cart is full so her mother carries her for a bit but lo and behold she puts her hands out to me and with an amazed expression on her face, her mother tentatively hands her over to me expecting a loud outburst as i pick her up only to be met with a smile and a pinch on my face. less than a minute later she was asking to go back to her mother but the “wall” was now gone. before we left the store, she was riding on my shoulders giggling the entire time from her new perch and after the car ride home she sat in my lap as the women put the food away and made dinner, she reached to take my hand and walk with her wherever she wanted to go and when all was said and done and it was time to put her to bed, she left her mother and came running to me throwing her arms around me and kissing me on the cheek. if you heard the comments from the women and saw their reactions to this you would know that it was completely unexpected, shocking and good all at the same time. picture yourself in a completely different culture where you don’t speak any of the language (from the 2 year olds perspective dealing with me) and having never seen nor been even remotely close to a white man before and you can probably imagine that it was a very stressful situation for her that turned into a playful new friendship in less than 4 hours. i just received a phone call from home saying that the baby keeps looking into my room to see if i am there and has asked for me several times. in less culturally different situations i believe i could have done the same thing over the period of two or three days without IFM simply by smiling, trying to be playful with them etc but i think under these circumstances, IFM certainly seemed to be an effective comforting and bonding tool. ---
**Author:** ![v0m1t](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/v0m1t/32/520_2.png) [@v0m1t](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/v0m1t)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 6:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-to-calm-a-shy-toddler-would-instant-shine-work-too/23597/2 "2008-09-10T06:34:33Z")
This is such a sweet report.. You definatly made the right choice using instant female magic… Maybe instant shine would have worked the same way? Reps… P.S. When I opened this thread I read the title FART warning, and I was expecting major fartage because of instant female magic LOL! ---
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 7:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-to-calm-a-shy-toddler-would-instant-shine-work-too/23597/3 "2008-09-10T07:41:15Z")
ya i agree, instant shine probably would have worked very well in a similar situation but since i was with a bunch of ladies besides the young girl i thought, why not [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/)? lol@FART warning. for me FRAT is a warning regarding a lengthy post, it stands for F\*\*k Reading All That 😮 ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 3:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-to-calm-a-shy-toddler-would-instant-shine-work-too/23597/4 "2008-09-10T15:48:41Z")
Sounds like true love, J! 😛 Luv it when kids warms up to me, or in this case, when the walls of fear comes tumbling down. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 5:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-to-calm-a-shy-toddler-would-instant-shine-work-too/23597/5 "2008-09-10T17:13:14Z")
That’s cute. I’m even more curious to see what IFM can do on a regular basis now, based on this report. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 10:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-to-calm-a-shy-toddler-would-instant-shine-work-too/23597/6 "2008-09-10T22:23:46Z")
You’re so awesome Josef 🙂 It’s really great to have you back as a reporting user. I mean with quality reports like this, I don’t know how we got on without you. I really appreciate a great member like yourself coming back around. I used to always read your posts and when I was getting started and you always kept me laughing right along with the pearls of wisdom wedged in your posts. Great report and as such I am sending you a $25 Gift Certificate just so you can keep reporting. ---
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 2:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-to-calm-a-shy-toddler-would-instant-shine-work-too/23597/7 "2008-09-11T02:10:47Z")
woot! thanks SteveO ! picture me with a maniacal smile as i sift through the goodies available in the store 😃 i’ve got a part 2 to this one now… first report left off with the youngster looking for me and asking for me all day yesterday while i was at work, so to continue from there… i show up at home and am immediately set upon by this young girl that only 24 hours before wouldn’t get within 20 feet, i actually have to have her mother take her from me just so i can change out of my suit (any of you with kids know suits and babies don’t mix). After i change i get a chance to play with her for only a few minutes before i am asked to take the entire gang driving to a neighboring city to visit with one of their relatives so we get into the car (after i get 1 full spray of [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) onto the back of my head, no other pheros in use this day) and the car ride is a repeat of the previous days events, the baby focused on me and trying to play with me while i am driving. when we arrive at the relatives house, she has no idea that i had started bonding with this baby the day before so when we all walk in the door together and this older relative we were visiting reaches for the baby you should have seen her reaction when the baby _ **hides behind me!** _ it was as if every circuit in her brain had overloaded, the idea that this baby that she is used to seeing every day was hiding behind the farang was just too much for her to handle. on to dinner… Eating, for Thais, is a social event. a thai will generally only eat alone if they are forced to by circumstances beyond their control, they really seem sad if they don’t have someone to talk to and share their food with so when the whole family gathered around the food (except for me, i really don’t care for fermented fish sauce and i’m allergic to shrimp so my gf’s typically cook for me specifically) the baby came over and sat with me on the couch! here is the whole family, hungry, chatting away and eating and the baby refuses to join them. the mother calls and calls but the baby won’t budge from my side , forcing the mother to make repeated trips from the table to where we were seated just to feed her. dinner finishes and we all head back to my house, they turn on the tv and try to convince her to watch a childs movie before putting her to bed but she only wanted to sit and play with me again. she starts to show signs of tiring out, laying down in my arms and yawning so the mother gently takes her and holds her for a few minutes before standing up again to take her to bed. at this point, i start to relax finally, put my feet up grab a beer and change the channel but in less than twenty minutes mother and baby are right back next to me, she refused to fall asleep in her own room now because she insisted on falling asleep next to me. today i will go completely phero free to continue the bonding without any additional reinforcement but i believe the writing is on the wall, the IFM pretty clearly aided me in bonding with her and in very short order too. situations like this are exactly why i’ve been focused on social pheromones for the last three years rather than “sexual” pheromones. take steroids for example, you can (as an adult male) try and increase your physique by taking synthetic steroids and you will certainly see some drastic changes but because you are basically forcing your body to change, you will find quite a few distinctly negative changes as well that must be dealt with either by cycling off the steroid or taking additional medication to offset the negative effects. i believe that if you start with only social pheromones, create a friendly social evironment, use social proofs to make your targets brain reinforce the idea that you are the one they should be with etc, you just don’t need a sexual type pheromone at that point since you have basically created a scenario where they have led themselves to the conclusion that you are the man they will be sleeping with. having “used” the baby in this case as a social proof, the mother now sees me as a genuine father type figure that she now almost certainly wishes that she had in her own life. she has now spent a good part of the last two days thinking about me, talking about me etc. i will probably hook up with her in the next couple of days, needing no other words, deeds or enhancements. ---
**Author:** ![DssMaster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dssmaster/32/1686_2.png) [@DssMaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DssMaster)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2008, 6:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-female-magic-to-calm-a-shy-toddler-would-instant-shine-work-too/23597/8 "2008-11-30T06:45:30Z")
Great post Josef, and reps to you too 🙂