Instant Gentleman after six nights out: why IG may bring tension around men

Oh okay sorry there I was on my spiel :smiley: - I did not realise that IG had no Androstenone at all. It sounds like something I need to try given the vibe that I can give off. :cool:

Maybe there is something else in the IG formula (and possibly in A314) that causes seriousness/‘heavyness’? I guess the problem is that a molecule can do multiple things at once - as in if you take away the molecule that causes the seriousness/‘heavyness’ you not only take that effect away but the molecule’s other effects (like helping to DHV) which may be essential to the formula leave as well.

If you do make a test pack for something like A314 you may want to include a similar formula to MX105 which has gotten good reviews from some of the younger guys here (like Sigma and examine). See: https://pheromonetalk.com/t/different-a314-mix-observations-mx172-vs-mx102-vs-mx105/2632
Also Carrie likes MX105 a lot as well.

Also a few ideas here for additional putative pheromones that could be put into the new A314 alcohol spray test kits. I wonder especially if there could be something to avoid the distancing/excessively serious effects it has sometimes in social settings with younger people. Perhaps one or more of P83, P90, P91 and P93 could replace some of the Androstenone for some of these test mixes. I would guess some Androstenone (and whatever else is causing the seriousness/distance) would still be necessary so as not to lose the core ‘A314 effect’.

Tacitus: “the higher range of Putatives, P83, P91, P93 all seem to have this balance of masculinity and credibility/trust/attraction where the younger, jerkier pheromones like P75, or the “youngish authority figure” P80 can be terribly offputting to many…”

P90… subtle, a touch social dominant, maybe ??
Tacitus: “Did I underestimate P90 ?.. maybe so…
although it may require a stronger application, 100 mu + to kick in… at the gym I observed women were unusually animated, very chatty, almost noisy… same thing occured on the subway… even a reserved brit couple seated next to me became voluble… and I was afforded an unexpected degree of respect throughout the day… although not of the Clint Eastwood P80 variety, nor of the somewhat more erotic P83 variety*… the upper range putatives so far, P90, P91, P93 appear to have a generally civilized, well sociallized quality…* P90 quietly exudes what I might term “empathetic leadership” versus “authoritarian leadership”… in the direction of the wise, respected grandfather figure… I did notice that in important discussion during the working day, I could manage the very tricky balancing act of being direct and forceful while maintaining rapport... I have never been good at that likable intensity trick… P90 seems to give one a boost there…”

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