# Instant Gentleman Effects **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 13, 2008, 6:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-effects/12582 "2008-05-13T18:52:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 1:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-effects/12582/21 "2008-05-14T01:13:41Z")
> [@](#): > > Well [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) already contains the “main” ingredient in both [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). Just a little correction as to not cause confusion. AMMO does not have the same ingrediant as Ishine in it. That was AMMO 1.5 which hasnt been sold in a long time. It has 3 mones in it ANOL anone and arone. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 1:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-effects/12582/22 "2008-05-14T01:21:49Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Just a little correction as to not cause confusion. AMMO does not have the same ingrediant as Instant Shine in it. That was AMMO 1.5 which hasnt been sold in a long time. > > It has 3 pheromones in it > > Alpha Androstenol Androstenone and Androsterone. > > Tisha Oh..well excuse me. I had it mistaken. I guess I should stop dispensing advice for Ammo until I get the new version and try it out. ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 1:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-effects/12582/23 "2008-05-14T13:13:16Z")
Wildflower be sure and give us a follow up report! ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 4:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-effects/12582/24 "2008-05-14T16:34:13Z")
I’ll report what happens, it’s this friday so I still have two days to experiment with AMMO on its own. The first impression I made on this girl was bad and I got bad vibes of her for a couple of months (only saw her once or twice) so Its a miracle I have a date with her in the first place. I think pheromones may play have played a part in it, it was when I tried the A314, openness and Shine together she came and stood right next to me shoulder touching when there was loads of room to stand, she didn’t iniate conversation with me so I did and shes seemed to be friendly to me since, total turnaround really, who said 80% of opinion is based on the first 2 minuites of meeting someone. Shes in my social group so it’s gonna be a group date kind of thing, at 19 I don’t wanna be doing one on one dates. I’m going to take you advice and use: 2 Instant gentleman, 3 Shine, 3 openness and 1 AMMO. I don’t know where I’ll spray them yet, i’m 6"2 and shes quite small so I don’t want to spray them on my head. I need more will power when applying phereomones, like I always sneak an extra spray. I’ll put 2 instant gentleman on and then go “one more spray won’t hurt” Your right though, I don’t want to be collonge guy so I’ll try and keep it to two sprays. Thanks everyone for the advice. ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 5:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-effects/12582/25 "2008-05-14T17:39:37Z")
here’s my post from my journal. Its my overall impression/review of [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/). > [@Let's go on an adventure](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-go-on-an-adventure/9947/68): > > Haven’t been around much, just my usual quick glance at the first page of the forums, checking a journal or two real quick. School has been kicking my ass. I’m going to post my review of Gentleman as I’ve been using it for almost a month now. > > Self effects: I’m usually a very impulsive type of guy. Acts before he thinks kinda guy which leads me to say or do things that I regret almost instantly. Now, I’ve been actively and consciously trying to stop doing that so maybe thats why I don’t attribute Instant Gentleman to the slow, calm, “let’s chill” kinda mood I seem to have been in while wearing it. The only time this effect gets nullified is when I’m high off Red Bull or AMMO. The heart racing, heart attack, LET’S FUCK SOME SHIT UP feeling is toned down with Instant Gentleman though. It also seems to clear my head, not in a focus kind of way, but in a more relaxed, “let’s take this in” kind of way. > > Effect on others: Now, I find that this kinda varies depending on who the target was and how they were raised. What I mean by that is if they’ve been in the US, are they Americanized, how social they are, etc. Among the… more normal, people, it gave off a more approachable vibe to those who weren’t so introverted. Not saying only extroverted people would approach me, but it seemed to be less effective on introverts until they get to know you. Almost like the intimidation vibe that’s described from A314, but more of a social intimidation, not so much respect. However, I noticed once you broke down an introvert, they warmed up pretty fast. Generally, it gives you a “who’s THAT guy” kinda feel to it. Like there’s something about that guy, who is he? type feel. > > I’m not sure how many of you are familiar with Asian culture or cultural cliques, but at my school there is a huge ring or clique of Korean “fobs.” They generally keep to themselves, don’t really talk to anyone, and if they HAVE to, its usually with another Asian. I found that Instant Gentleman doesn’t really affect them. I think the who “cool” thing is a social creation based on where and how they lived. Most of them recently immigrated from Korea, so the whole “who is cool” thing is relative. Even the Chinese fobs don’t seem to react positively to it. This isn’t to say that Instant Gentleman creates a negative reaction, it just doesn’t seem to produce a positive one. > > Length of time: I found that it lasts for at least a good 3 hours, more like 4. After that it seems to drop extremely fast. The weather around here lately has been warming up, but while I tested it, weather has been anywhere from 70s-low90s. > > Mixes with other products: I’ve tried this with AMMO, Shine, Come Talk To Me Mix 2, Openness, IMF, SteveO’s mix. > With AMMO: Like I’ve said before, it just seems to enhance it in a more sexual vibe. The cool factor is still there, it just enhances it to give you an added “mmm mmmm MMM! who’s that guy?” I noticed I got slightly more blatant hits, a little more interest from complete strangers. > > Shine: Enhances the cool effect, really not much else. > > Come Talk To Me Mix 2: Huh, how to describe this with IG. It kinda seems to override the IG sometimes. It just makes EVERYONE want to talk. Its more directed to everyone, so from my experience with Come Talk To Me Mix 2, its like a fun kinda phero, like how people describe spaceland, but not so crazy. With all that talk, the social spam kinda kills your cool factor, but if its in a smaller setting, like maybe 3-4 people, you can still be the center of attention. > > Openness: Similar to Come Talk To Me Mix 2, but not as strong. I used x1 strength though. > > SteveO’s mix: Similar to AMMO, but it seems more blatant but at the same time just as friendly. Don’t know what it is, but it seems to get females more interested, definitely got more IOIs from girls than AMMO, but it was mostly from females that were not strangers. People who have talked to me or knew who I was. > > I used IMF once with gentleman, but I don’t think it was very effective. No noticeable results around the females I was with. The more I try IMF, the more I’m going to have to agree with Gegogi about how its really only good for females while they’re on their period, had a long day, or are really stressed. > > Overall: Really great product. I think the whole “Gentleman” title throws it off. If this was 10 years ago, Gentleman would be perfect, but with today’s view, when someone says Gentleman, it doesn’t reflect a cool vibe. Sure, the mature and older is there, but for some reason I don’t think “cool” is associated with gentleman. The “who is that guy” vibe certainly doesn’t describe a gentleman and that may be why it’s overlooked. Has the same neroli scent as Instant Shine which I love. It works well as a base as far as I can tell. I used it once with A314 and depending on who I was with, either got respect like “wow, he looks important/busy” to respect like you would give to a peer or colleague (like my professor seeing me as a peer and less of a student). > > My dosage: Started off at 1 spray for 2 days, 2 sprays for 2 days, 3 sprays for 2 days, 4 sprays for 1. I really like the results with 3 sprays and played around at 3, 3.5 and 4 sprays. 3.5 seems like the best, 4 doesn’t do too much more and may just be a waste. AMMO, the most I used was 2.5, but whenever I used it, it was usually 1.5 or 2 sprays. Location of IG is almost always my throat and the top of my arms. 2 to throat 2 to arms. The rest of the tested products was to hair, SteveO’s mix was to neck, covered by IG and neroli perfumer’s oil. > > Hope this helps anyone who is interested in the product. You pretty much have Renny and Bosshank to thank if you found it useful, because I only tested this out because of my respect for those two and their request for younger guys to try it out. Otherwise I would have probably stuck to AMMO and A314. MX102, 105, 200 are on their way in addition to Honesty 4x. Never tried Honesty, period, so I think that will be interesting. I talk enough shit around my friends so I’m gonna have to constantly tell myself to STFU while drinking warm glasses of STFU and eating a STFU sandwich while wearing it. ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2008, 2:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-effects/12582/26 "2008-05-24T14:12:28Z")
So I went out a week later than planned. I had 1 and a half sprays of ammo on the chest (just where it meets the bottom of the neck), 2 sprays of [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) on the centre of my neck the Adams apple area, 2 sprays of Instant Shine and 1 Instant openness on the right hand side of my neck and 2 sprays Instant openness and 1 Shine on the left side of the neck. I was wearing a shirt and an undershirt over the ammo. Oh I forgot 1 drop of A314 split between my wrists that I had put on a few hours earlier. The effects I got where amazing. This is the first time I’ve really being able to notice the changes in peoples perceptions of me. Gradually over the past week I’ve become more aware of how pheromones are working on people. To college I’ve been wearing 2 sprays of ammo on chest and 3 drops A314, noticed that this seems to create rapport between a group of people. In general I’ve being doing a lot of reading about good impressions etc so last night I was mirroring, giving good eye contact, smiling, listening, not talking about myself so much, asking questions etc. So I think all these things has an impact as well as the pheromones. The pheromones where defiantly working, I’m very happy. After asking one or two questions the other person would totally open up and start talking very enthusiastically about pretty mundane topics and talking LOTS!! I felt like the centre of attention and I think the kind of vibe this mix gave of was charismatic. I really bonded well last night with the girl I like. It was the kind of effect I thought Instant honesty would have (I’ve not tried it yet, only got a Togo). This girl who either looked through me or acted disinterested in anything I would say about a month ago has totally changed. I am interested in her sexually but I’d be genuinely happy to have her as just a friend and nothing more. A few down points are that people seem to fight for my attention and whilst they’re doing this the quantity of conversation is increasing due to the openness. For example if I’m talking to someone they’re chatting they’re head of whilst another person tries to start a conversation with me. I’m trying to become a better listener and conversationalist in general and it’s hard when other people are distracting you, I don’t want to come across as disinterested in the person I’m listening to. Another down point that’s not really a down point is that I feel this mix is very “comfy” not sexual. I don’t know if I’m wrong about this but I feel I could easily end up in the friend zone with girls. I’m not afraid of the friend zone I’m after more girl friends as well as a girlfriend but I think this mix lacks ever so slightly a sexual vibe, I don’t know if the ammo’s projecting it. The final down point is the smell. the scent is fine I think they all smell nice but I think with all those sprays I might be really strong smelling. One girl who fancies me but I don’t fancy her said “are you wearing aftershave” before getting close and leaning on my arm. I’m going to be seeing this girl again in a few days at a picnic with the same bunch of people I was out with last night and was wandering what mix I should use to give of a “warm and fuzzy” vibe. ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2008, 2:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-effects/12582/27 "2008-05-24T14:47:54Z")
Wildflower, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) is good for opening conversations with strangers… it is not good if you like to have deep conversations with people. IMO, both are good if you want to engage people in normal conversations. Too much instant openness tends to promote siliness and people all want to talk to you. Snakeeyes also did a report where he found somebody was creeped out by instant openness, and I found one situation where a high dosage also caused somebody to be creeped out- it makes you “too” mysterious and magnetic, people smell something wrong. I never use more than 1-2 sprays. I’ve had great results just wearing 1x Instant Shine, 1x Instant Openness. You become approachable and this is great for casual conversations, people can be very friendly if they casually know you, like a clerk at your favorite drugstore. This guy is usually sort of ho-hum but I brightened up his day just by comming in, he even cracked a few jokes. It was amazing. I just used a little eye contact and that seemed to spark something in him- if you don’t make any eye contact it tends to get people looking at you but no real interest. I never tried Instant Gentlemen as it isn’t available in “to go”. I’d be intrigued to do so, however. I suspect there is androsterone in WAGG (Lovescent), and of course there is some in other phero mixes. I’d be curious to know what it causing the arrogant, pushy/General vibe in MX173… is it androsterone? Or a synergy with something else? With WAGG I just got generalized avuncular respect, “Wilfred Brimley talking to you about Diabetes/Oatmeal, etc”. With MX173 I was getting “shock and awe” and my approachability was reduced and I felt a bit arrogant “Look at the little people…” (over the top but I did get the feeling I had been elevated to the most important person there… and most other men didn’t matter- I was only being polite so I wouldn’t be looking bad)- graceful but arrogant. WAGG seemed to be a respect based on wisdom and trust, and MX173 a respect based on dominance and charisma. I’m going to wear some MX173 again today to see what happens. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2008, 2:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-effects/12582/28 "2008-05-24T14:55:12Z")
Here is a post I did a little while ago about [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/): > [@A314 vs Instant Gentleman: a married man in his mid-40s compares the two](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-vs-instant-gentleman/11070): > > Myself: Athletic, mid-40s, Married with children This is a compilation of thoughts on the differences between A314 and [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/). A lot of this is based not only on my experience but also on some PMs between myself and Renny. So if you like this post and decide to share the love – er, rep points, please do not forget to send Renny some too. For those of you who are not familiar with Renny he and I are about the same age. I mention this as a couple of the products can have effects that v… Hope it helps. Daedeulus- As far as the MX173 goes - there is a difference of one pheromone between MX172 and MX173 - both of which are based on MX102. They are 14 and 15 (respectively) pheromones in them. I do not know what pheromone is different but I would bet it is 'none based on your observations. I used MX173 (to go size) but do not remember why I liked one over the other. ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2008, 3:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-effects/12582/29 "2008-05-24T15:28:25Z")
I’m thinking MX172 might be OK for a job interview, toned down a bit and mixed with [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/)… but I think it sucks for “everyday wear”. I hope A314 isn’t like that… but then I remember one guy talking about “parting the red sea” on the subway with A314. I’m not sure that’s something I want to be known for (but then, I’m not a New Yorker). ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2008, 4:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-effects/12582/30 "2008-05-24T16:14:49Z")
> [@](#): > > it makes you “too” mysterious and magnetic, people smell something wrong. I never use more than 1-2 sprays. What does “too” mysterious and magnetic mean? Like creepy? Manipulative? Irritable? I ask this because I’d love to be seen as mysterious and mgnetic it’s the reason I use pheromones. Is it a bad thing or is it just odd, weird? ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2008, 5:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-effects/12582/31 "2008-05-24T17:08:39Z")
> [@WildFlower](#): > > What does “too” mysterious and magnetic mean? Like creepy? Yes. Some people, especially ones less open to suggestion, will begin to suspect you are “trying to cast a spell” on them. They won’t understand it completely, they’ll just know something is wrong- if you body language is wrong, this only makes it worse. Androstenols are highly suggestive pheromones, having a very hypnotic quality that androstenone and androsterone don’t have. In the right combination they will draw non-shy people towards you (especially men, women tend to be more passive), whereas androstenone and androsterone don’t do this by themselves as much. [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) is a really good way to get lots of people saying “Hi” to you if you pass by them in a store and look “important” enough- I’ve noted this. Spray products seem to be worse in this regard, as the effect can come on quickly. Most people aren’t used to sitting down next to somebody and going to Spaceland right away. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2008, 5:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-effects/12582/32 "2008-05-24T17:13:37Z")
> [@Daedelus76](#): > > I’m thinking MX172 might be OK for a job interview, toned down a bit and mixed with Instant Shine… but I think it sucks for “everyday wear”. You don’t like it for “everyday wear” because …? Just curious - not arguing. ---
**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2008, 5:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-effects/12582/33 "2008-05-24T17:23:14Z")
Wildflower, excellent report! You appear to have grasped the concept of congruency which is so important with pheromone use. Reps to ya! -D4 ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2008, 5:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-effects/12582/34 "2008-05-24T17:33:52Z")
> [@bosshank](#): > > You don’t like it for “everyday wear” because …? Just curious - not arguing. It seemed pushy and not very “fun”- walking around like a prince or VIP with a little bit of a chip on your shoulder. I need more experience with it, though, to decide. Also, I’ve been having some androstenone issues the past few days, so that might have been a factor- I got a couple really good hits from middle-aged women wearing nothing. I can sense a “detox” comming on in a few days just to clear my head, actually. Way too many wierd sensations going on from pheromones. There are situations where you don’t want to be a VIP. If you’ve ever known any ministers, priests, politicians, etc., they often have alot of trouble just making friends and being themselves with people and being approachable, because they have a very special status that tends to dominate their other attributes and just “being themselves”. However, it might be good, in moderation, for business as this phero seems to create a vibe obsessed with dominance, authority, hierarchy. It’s sort of “mechanistic” almost. But in social situations where you want give-and-take, it might not be good. ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2008, 5:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-effects/12582/35 "2008-05-24T17:40:15Z")
One thing I’ve discovered recently related to congruency is that it is FAR more important to be Interested than to be Interesting. It has to be genuine interest though not forced. Taking a genuine interest in people and asking them questions about themselves and their lives opens them up and then Instant Openness kicks in like a dam has just being burst. By listening and asking questions I come away from the conversation on a high. You feel you’ve learnt something about someone rather that regurgitate stories about yourself and hopefully the other person goes away feeling good too, people love to talk about themselves. Once you do this your no longer the guy sat in the corner wearing Shine your developing rapport with someone and that’s when the pheromones work and things like body language look after themselves (although I do like to keep check.) Developing rapport with someone makes you charismatic and warm then Shine boosts it. Asking questions and talking starts conversation and then Openness boosts it. I’m really getting an understanding of the [Social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) now but products like Ammo and Instant Gentleman are harder for me because respect and attraction are generally harder to spot. These past few months have been a real insight for me. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro\_Figueiredo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pedro_figueiredo/32/2281_2.png) [@Pedro\_Figueiredo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pedro_Figueiredo)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2008, 5:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-effects/12582/36 "2008-05-24T17:43:19Z")
Such a nice Post ! I just figured out that i have to add Instant Gent to my order … **Pedro Figueiredo** ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2008, 5:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-effects/12582/37 "2008-05-24T17:48:52Z")
> [@Daedelus76](#): > > It seemed pushy and not very “fun”- walking around like a prince or VIP with a little bit of a chip on your shoulder. … There are situations where you don’t want to be a VIP. … I see the same problems with MX172 (sorry for saying it was MX173 earlier). Of all the pheromones I tried, MX172 seemed the most “forced” and canned. It _is_ forceful but that is exactly why I use it. My work was a very male-dominated field - full of alphas. I used it on those days when things needed to go the way I said without a lot of conversation. Or I would go heavy with the A314 with nothing to buffer it. But it is not something I would want to do every day either so I understand exactly what you are saying. I am not sure how old you are but I would imagine a lot of younger people might feel a little uncomfortable if they are not used to having to be IN CHARGE nor be in the position to have to be a strong leader like that. It is not my prefered leadership style but there are some days when I need to shift into that mode. I posted this in my thread > [@A314 vs Instant Gentleman: a married man in his mid-40s compares the two](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-vs-instant-gentleman/11070): > > Myself: Athletic, mid-40s, Married with children This is a compilation of thoughts on the differences between A314 and [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/). A lot of this is based not only on my experience but also on some PMs between myself and Renny. So if you like this post and decide to share the love – er, rep points, please do not forget to send Renny some too. For those of you who are not familiar with Renny he and I are about the same age. I mention this as a couple of the products can have effects that v… but I will put it here too at the risk of repeating and plaigerizing myself: “I have found myself flipping back and forth between A314 - usually buffered with [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) or [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) and [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/). The good part is that I people react to me in a combination of both: strong respect, sometimes a little distance, think of me as younger than I am, and come to me for advice or to use me as a “sounding board”. Even overheard some younger folks - mixed male and females - who saw me and whispered - “Oh - it’s bosshank. He is the cool …” That caught my attention because I did not even realize this particular group even noticed me other than to be one of the “older people” who are at this one locale.” ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2008, 6:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-effects/12582/38 "2008-05-24T18:14:53Z")
I’m 32, but probably a good deal younger in my thinking than my age… many people my generation, or younger, tend to be distrusting of people that act like they know it all or tell you what to do, or are an “authority”. We like a more give-and-take approach generally. Alot of us are frankly not the business types, never going to be high up in the corporate world, and don’t care to either… we want to cultivate other aspects of our personalities other than dominance and power games. I understand there are careers where that gets you the steak knives or the pink slip, but that’s my personal preference. You can be a VIP and get respect… to your face. But people can still talk about you behind your back “oohh… Prince Charles is the guy that talks to plants”. I don’t know how well A314 handles that, but I doubt it could overcome every personality foible. My dad was very much a “go getter” when he was younger. He ate up his career path, made tons of money, but it wasn’t until he started retiring that he loosened up and became a little more human- and all this after being a social wallflower in highschool. All my dad knew was accounting, business, etc. He had NO hobbies, and couldn’t really talk about much of anything else besides work. He was completely insensitive to anybody’s feelings, too. Really sad in my eyes, I’m just glad he’s recovering now and finding some “outside interests”. ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2008, 8:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-effects/12582/39 "2008-05-24T20:46:16Z")
> [@Daedelus76](#): > > Yes. Some people, especially ones less open to suggestion, will begin to suspect you are “trying to cast a spell” on them. They won’t understand it completely, they’ll just know something is wrong- if you body language is wrong, this only makes it worse. Androstenols are highly suggestive pheromones, having a very hypnotic quality that androstenone and androsterone don’t have. In the right combination they will draw non-shy people towards you (especially men, women tend to be more passive), whereas androstenone and androsterone don’t do this by themselves as much. Instant Openness is a really good way to get lots of people saying “Hi” to you if you pass by them in a store and look “important” enough- I’ve noted this. > > Spray products seem to be worse in this regard, as the effect can come on quickly. Most people aren’t used to sitting down next to somebody and going to Spaceland right away. You see I’m surprised at that, I thought the nols where safe and fool proof. I thought the vibes given of where more subtle and subconscious than that. If you’re talking to a girl and she’s attracted to you then the pheromones enhance that attraction but she thinks you’re trying to hypnotise her, which would be disastrous. Is it a case of too much of a good thing? Like If I have Shine on, a girl might think I’m charismatic but she’s creeped out by how much she’s drawn to my presence? ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2008, 8:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-effects/12582/40 "2008-05-24T20:57:52Z")
Nols tend to promote closing of emotional space, whereas [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) does the same for physical space- sometimes you can get too close to somebody emotionally and it will feel forced. Just don’t go overboard. Most people won’t pick up Nols but there are a minority who will, especially if they are close to you (close friends, family). They may feel something is “up” at a higher dosage and your behavior is wierd- Nols also can cause some bizarre behaviors- chatting about nothing at all, ackward silence and slow speech, spilling your guts to strangers, etc. The “Instant” series is buffered so it’s less likely to cause this, but I have experienced this effect with unbuffered alpha-androstenol. In at least two cases, people either freaked out, or accused me of being a little wierd or unnerving. One involved excessive eye contact and fatique, the other involved nothing in particular, just unusual closeness and the reaction was less “wierd”, but still “creepy”. If it does happen, you can apologize and end the conversation, or try to explain it away. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-effects/12582.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-effects/12582.md?page=3)