# Instant Gentleman first report: lovely scent, compliments, no clear effects yet **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 16, 2007, 4:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-first-report-lovely-scent-compliments-no-clear-effects-yet/2523 "2007-03-16T04:34:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TheLustEquation](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thelustequation/32/355_2.png) [@TheLustEquation](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheLustEquation)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2007, 4:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-first-report-lovely-scent-compliments-no-clear-effects-yet/2523/1 "2007-03-16T04:34:06Z")
:o Progress report for my dealings with [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) thus far: Instant Gentle has a lovely scent which I’ve gotten a few compliments on thus far. I’ve only gone out with it six times so far and never with more than 2 sprays, 2 times per night. I haven’t had any conclusive findings with effects on others thus far. Most “scientific studies” for such things are double blind and run at least 30 times. Given that I’m one person who’s not blind at all to this, and that I’m going about it with pseudoreplication (in using myself as the only instigator), the soundness of my study is tiny at best. …Oh, not to mention most observations are entirely subjective. The disclaimer being through… The effects on me: No noticeable emotional or behavioural effects which are contrary to un-Instant Gentleman’ed me. Effects on Others: I’ve been in the same room with about 5 others for around 6 hours at a time. In two cases, the room eventually became evidently full of anxiety and tension after about hour 3. This may have something to do with the 80% male ratio, or just with the particularly distasteful inter-socializings of others. One case I’ve done the same with people for up to 10 hours, but in a more “I’m the leader” kind of position. My leading was well-received throughout this session, and people did seem to take me more seriously than usual and listen to my every word. I reapplied at the halfway mark, and shrugged off the “did you just put on some cologne” questions pointed at me upon return. The other three times, there was little notice of anything peculiar at all. I would still like to try Instant Gentleman by itself during a date-outing to see what comes. I’ll post more observations to this thread after I’ve had enough experience with it to enhance my “study”. (maybe a month?) Its been fun so far 😃 ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2007, 5:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-first-report-lovely-scent-compliments-no-clear-effects-yet/2523/2 "2007-03-16T05:55:31Z")
[Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) hasn’t been reported on much since i’ve been here. I like your findings. I just ordered a bottle and am anxiously awaiting the a mostly custom order. If you notice anything more about tension around males, be sure to post about it. I have a feeling it was due to the amount of -none being radiated by a bunch of men in a closed room. Have a couple choice women could exaserbate this tension even further IMO. What gender seemed to notice/compliment instant gentleman more? Did you see anything noticable in the social interactions with women in your environment? (towards you or not) Keep us up on the details and findings my good sir. ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2007, 2:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-first-report-lovely-scent-compliments-no-clear-effects-yet/2523/3 "2007-03-16T14:53:08Z")
> [@TheLustEquation](#): > > :o > … > The effects on me: > No noticeable emotional or behavioural effects which are contrary to un-Instant Gentleman’ed me. > > Effects on Others: > I’ve been in the same room with about 5 others for around 6 hours at a time. In two cases, the room eventually became evidently full of anxiety and tension after about hour 3. This may have something to do with the 80% male ratio, or just with the particularly distasteful inter-socializings of others. > > One case I’ve done the same with people for up to 10 hours, but in a more “I’m the leader” kind of position. My leading was well-received throughout this session, and people did seem to take me more seriously than usual and listen to my every word. Very interesting. My experiences with IG show some similarities and some differences. Difference - There is a pronounced self-effect on me. I become more polite and considerate. Possible similarity - I was using IG with a professional in an industrial factory setting. We had a good talk and a meal together. When we got back down to work the guy left the area and got into an altercation with a factory worker, coming back to my area trailing the worker. He was using foul language towards the worker, who was none to happy himself. I took some steps towards calming them down, and both were respectful towards me even though they were highly agitated towards each other. I did wonder if the IG influenced the professional’s behavior with the worker. Your observations of building tension after exposure may indicate an effect of a similar nature. ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2007, 1:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-first-report-lovely-scent-compliments-no-clear-effects-yet/2523/4 "2007-03-17T01:00:50Z")
Guys the reason why you may be seeing some occassional ‘tense’ reactions with [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) may be to do with the fact that this product, being a variation of A314, would still need a little Androstenone for a ‘respect’ backbone. There has been some talk on the forum of the male alcohol spray variations of A314, MX172 and MX102 for example, causing some mildly negative reactions and Androstenone-like tension. It isn’t a big issue for me but definitely does happen IMHO because some people are just very sensitive to minute amounts of Androstenone. I have felt quite aggressive myself at times when applying standard amounts of MX102 or MX172 twice-a-day everyday at work. Basically the minute amounts of Androstenone in the formula may be a problem occassionally because of fast diffusion in an alcohol spray format as opposed to oil-based A314. Androstenone sticks to the skin as well like no other pheromone so build up is quite possible if applying say twice a day. Here are some threads dealing with this issue: [Mx172-173 - #3 by Sunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx172-173/1398/3) Sunny: “…I am ususally most successful with a maximum of 2 sprays of MX172 (from the big bottle). When I recently had a long meeting with a superior, I got the impression that I ODed for the first time with just 2 spays. He reacted negatively (not trusting, protective) as if I was wearing androstenone. Fortunately I had an other meeting with him, this time only using one spray of MX172 and 5 sprays of Instant Honesty double strength. Things improved dramatically into a direction of bonding and friendship. Fascinating!..” [MX102 is definitely 'edgier' than A314](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx102-is-definitely-edgier-than-a314/1170/13) Sunny: "Visionary, I agree. I used to be a big fan of oil based products, until recently, when I realized that the alcohol based spray gives much more ‘edge’ to A314. But my concerns are the same: You need to reapply much more and since the andorostenone sticks to the skin, this will add up quicker than with the oil version. What we need is a second “refresher” bottle with a different formula, with less of the longer lasting pheromones." ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2007, 2:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-first-report-lovely-scent-compliments-no-clear-effects-yet/2523/5 "2007-03-28T14:20:48Z")
[Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) is not meant to increase respect like A314, and has absolutely NO androstenone. Not even nanograms. It was meant to help reduce social friction caused by men who are intimidating, or guys who rub others the wrong way. Androstenone doesn’t fit into that plan at all! 🙂 We’ll look into this. Maybe make a test pack. Probably something that includes P74, now that we have more data on that. ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 9:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-first-report-lovely-scent-compliments-no-clear-effects-yet/2523/6 "2007-03-29T09:35:36Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > Instant Gentleman is not meant to increase respect like A314, and has absolutely NO androstenone. Not even nanograms. It was meant to help reduce social friction caused by men who are intimidating, or guys who rub others the wrong way. Androstenone doesn’t fit into that plan at all! 🙂 > > We’ll look into this. Maybe make a test pack. Probably something that includes P74, now that we have more data on that. Oh okay sorry there I was on my spiel 😃 - I did not realise that IG had no Androstenone at all. It sounds like something I need to try given the vibe that I can give off. 🆒 Maybe there is something else in the IG formula (and possibly in A314) that causes seriousness/‘heavyness’? I guess the problem is that a molecule can do multiple things at once - as in if you take away the molecule that causes the seriousness/‘heavyness’ you not only take that effect away but the molecule’s other effects (like helping to DHV) which may be essential to the formula leave as well. If you do make a test pack for something like A314 you may want to include a similar formula to MX105 which has gotten good reviews from some of the younger guys here (like Sigma and examine). See: [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/different-a314-mix-observations-mx172-vs-mx102-vs-mx105/2632](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/different-a314-mix-observations-mx172-vs-mx102-vs-mx105/2632) Also Carrie likes MX105 a lot as well. Also a few ideas here for additional [putative](https://a314.com/) [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) that could be put into the new A314 alcohol spray test kits. I wonder especially if there could be something to avoid the distancing/excessively serious effects it has sometimes in social settings with younger people. Perhaps one or more of [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/), [P90](https://pheromonelabs.com/), [P91](https://pheromonelabs.com/) and [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) could replace some of the [Androstenone](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) for some of these test mixes. I would guess some [Androstenone](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) (and whatever else is causing the seriousness/distance) would still be necessary so as not to lose the core ‘A314 effect’. Tacitus: “the higher range of [Putatives](https://a314.com/), [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/), [P91](https://pheromonelabs.com/), [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) all seem to have this balance of masculinity and credibility/trust/attraction where the younger, jerkier pheromones like [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/), or the “youngish authority figure” [P80](https://pheromonelabs.com/) can be terribly offputting to many…” [P90… subtle, a touch social dominant, maybe ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p90-subtle-a-touch-social-dominant-maybe/985/2)? Tacitus: “**Did I underestimate [P90](https://pheromonelabs.com/) ?.. maybe so…** although it may require a stronger application, 100 [mu](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) + to kick in… at the gym I observed women were unusually animated, very chatty, almost noisy… same thing occured on the subway… even a reserved brit couple seated next to me became voluble… and I was afforded an unexpected degree of respect throughout the day… although not of the Clint Eastwood [P80](https://pheromonelabs.com/) variety, nor of the somewhat more erotic [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) variety\*… the upper range [putatives](https://a314.com/) so far, [P90](https://pheromonelabs.com/), [P91](https://pheromonelabs.com/), [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) appear to have a generally civilized, well sociallized quality…\* [P90](https://pheromonelabs.com/) quietly exudes what I might term **“empathetic leadership”** versus “authoritarian leadership”… in the direction of the wise, respected grandfather figure… I did notice that in important discussion during the working day, **I could manage the very tricky balancing act of being direct and forceful while maintaining rapport..**. I have never been good at that likable intensity trick… [P90](https://pheromonelabs.com/) seems to give one a boost there…” Visionary ---
**Author:** ![TheLustEquation](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thelustequation/32/355_2.png) [@TheLustEquation](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheLustEquation)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2007, 5:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-first-report-lovely-scent-compliments-no-clear-effects-yet/2523/7 "2007-04-03T05:39:27Z")
My going gestimate on [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) is… its mostly AndrosteRone (although more “hints” would be appreciated, Jas 😉). > [@](#): > > It was meant to help reduce social friction caused by men who are intimidating, or guys who rub others the wrong way. I recently wore Instant Gentleman (2 sprays refreshed bi-hourly) to a party. There was a woman there who I was certain had a problem with me beforehand, but after that night, she was/is overly sweet to me. I do think the Instant Gentleman had a hand in melting the new, frictionful relationship I had recently started with her. She’s not a love interest, as she’s the SO of a good friend of mine, but I’m glad that our rapport has increased enormously since, for obvious reasons. The party had a lot of beer flowing, and so, more phero-effects were hard to observe. One odd thing, though: my guy-friends were more competitive with me than usual. Push-up competitions ensued and general “hey, show’em those fancy things you do” kind of moments were plentiful. Definite Alpha-challenges. Beer or Phero-induced? _shrugs_ More testing required! ---
**Author:** ![TheLustEquation](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thelustequation/32/355_2.png) [@TheLustEquation](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheLustEquation)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2007, 7:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-first-report-lovely-scent-compliments-no-clear-effects-yet/2523/8 "2007-04-03T07:21:03Z")
…testing… my last “reply” told me it wasn’t to be posted until reviewed by a “mediator”. Censoring TheLustEquation? -new and odd! ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2007, 3:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-first-report-lovely-scent-compliments-no-clear-effects-yet/2523/9 "2007-04-06T03:16:35Z")
> [@](#): > > Instant Gentleman … was meant to help reduce social friction caused by men who are intimidating, or guys who rub others the wrong way. TAC could be the biggest part of the ‘[Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/)’ effect as well - see the following posts by Master Tacitus… [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-word-on-the-mysterious-tac/105/3](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-word-on-the-mysterious-tac/105/3) Tacitus (January 24, 2006): “ **in high doses, this is great stuff** tried about 250 [mu](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) sprayed on my arms and throat area… starts off mellow, no buzz, no o.d., no [TAK](https://pheromonelabs.com/) dissociations… then a secure enveloping masculinity, as the best men’s fragraces do on an olfactory level, a feeling of all’s well, moodiness and depressions go away, one is comfortable and centered… one feels strongly male without a sexual push, a complete absence of the [androstenone](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) competitive edge… in a word… secure… or confident, knowing who one is and who one isn’t… (this has to be the force behind Instant Gentleman… the high dose application rocks)… excellent stuff, I want an amulet charged with this pheromone.. combined with an eroto-romantic mix like -none±Androstenol [TAC](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-c/) could be downright wicked. Love it.” [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-word-on-the-mysterious-tac/105/5](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-word-on-the-mysterious-tac/105/5) Tacitus (January 25, 2006): “ **Applied a massive dose this morning** about 400 [mu](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) of [TAC](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-c/) and 300 [mu](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) of [TAA](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/)… in spite of having a residual flu and dieting to lose weight, both of which leave me enervated, grouchy, and detached, I left home in a surprisingly good mood… a good quantity of this probably has been absorbed into my down coat and layers of sweaters to be time released… went into a crowded deli for edibles, usually this place is jostly and impatient… came in the door, opened up the zipper on my coat, and went to load up at the salad bar while the -pheromones wafted around. The place became almost still, everyone was mellow, orderly… efficient though, it wasn’t a slowness, it was an improved coordination, everyone seemed more polite, deferential to each other… the [TAC](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-c/) in this instance seems to take precedence over the [TAA](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/), although the [TAA](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/) was in evidence, but the uplift was quieter.. the thing is, i don’t know how I would be feeling now without it, there is a sensation of flu down in my lungs that feels like real illness, and I may be feeling absolutely fantastic in the context of feeling so crappy right now, it sort of feels like my immune responses have geared up… also my exposures to other people were of short duration. Had I been in a bar many other layers could have revealed themselves.” ---
**Author:** ![Stinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@Stinger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Stinger)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 9:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-first-report-lovely-scent-compliments-no-clear-effects-yet/2523/10 "2007-04-15T21:18:20Z")
IG makes me more polite than I usually am as well. So far I’ve noticed that it has more of an impact on me than others though. ---
**Author:** ![m3turbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@m3turbo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/m3turbo)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 9:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-first-report-lovely-scent-compliments-no-clear-effects-yet/2523/11 "2007-04-15T21:36:47Z")
🆒 Instant Gentlemen is great for making friends but sucks in dating and getting you any respect . It definitely works well but I reccomend adding some none to keep you from being the sweet, good guy who is never gonna get it . Because that is exactly what Instant Gentlemen does. And it does smell very nice. ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 10:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-first-report-lovely-scent-compliments-no-clear-effects-yet/2523/12 "2007-04-15T22:38:23Z")
> [@m3turbo](#): > > 🆒 Instant Gentlemen is great for making friends but sucks in dating and getting you any respect . It definitely works well but I reccomend adding some none to keep you from being the sweet, good guy who is never gonna get it . Because that is exactly what Instant Gentlemen does. And it does smell very nice. An interesting experience perhaps illustrative of this. I was shopping and looking at one of those racks with 4 sides full of goods. I was about an arms length from the rack, taking off things and looking at them. A young but adult hight teen male detached himself from his mother to look over the rack. He was circling the rack apparently looking for something because at each side he said “No.” When he got to my side he squeezed between me and the rack to look it over and said “No.” Then he went back to his mother and she chewed him out for being so rude. I hadn’t noticed anything unusual or rude about it, although in my regular state I would have noticed and might have reached out to clothesline him as he raced by. The IG does seem to lower the “fear factor.” It sends out a message that it’s ok to come into the personal space. I’m not sure I’d characterise it as a lack of respect though. If I’m wearing the IG I’m not worried about defending the space and the other folks are ok in it. ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 12:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-first-report-lovely-scent-compliments-no-clear-effects-yet/2523/13 "2007-04-16T00:17:11Z")
> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#): > > I was about an arms length from the rack, taking off things and looking at them. 😃 😃 😃 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 9:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-first-report-lovely-scent-compliments-no-clear-effects-yet/2523/14 "2007-04-16T09:34:31Z")
You know [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) sounds very much like WAGG to me. I need mones to lower the intimidation factor myself being a lone wolf and all so I may have to give this one a go and see how it compares to WAGG, which I like a lot. Who knows they may share the same pheromone molecule because I know for sure that WAGG causes ‘politeness’. I know all about lowering the respect factor with products like WAGG and TAK for example. It’s nice to be accessible sometimes but definitely not to be disrespected. I feel for best results in work and social life, I need an initmidation reducer (such as WAGG or Instant Gentleman) + ANol (for a fun, likeable vibe) + potentially other ‘friendly’ molecules (like BNol, P74, etc.) **but there needs to be something for respect to keep things from getting too ‘comfortable’**. At the moment I am trying a number of putatives (P80, P83, P84, P91) that I am hoping can allow me to get away with wearing things like WAGG and ANol together without causing disrespect. MX105 is another option that I really want to try for this purpose. The only things that are able to give me the respect element when wearing WAGG and ANol so far are ANone and A314. The problem is both of these cause too much ‘distance’ at the doses required to give ‘respect’. It’s such a balancing game.🆒 Visionary ---
**Author:** ![Stinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@Stinger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Stinger)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 5:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-first-report-lovely-scent-compliments-no-clear-effects-yet/2523/15 "2007-04-18T17:01:02Z")
How would IG work with A314? ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 6:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-first-report-lovely-scent-compliments-no-clear-effects-yet/2523/16 "2007-04-18T18:24:37Z")
> [@Stinger](#): > > How would Instant Gentleman work with A314? It harmonises well with a314. Tends to give an impression of powerful but gracious. I’m not convinced that IG “sucks at dating.” Although I’m not in the dating world, my wife has reported envious looks from ladies when we’re out together and I’m wearing IG. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 9:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-first-report-lovely-scent-compliments-no-clear-effects-yet/2523/17 "2010-02-08T21:17:21Z")
> [@m3turbo](#): > > 🆒 Instant Gentlemen is great for making friends but sucks in dating and getting you any respect . It definitely works well but I reccomend adding some none to keep you from being the sweet, good guy who is never gonna get it . Over generalization, eh?