# Instant Gentleman first report: lovely scent, compliments, no clear effects yet **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 16, 2007, 4:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-first-report-lovely-scent-compliments-no-clear-effects-yet/2523 "2007-03-16T04:34:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 6
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2007, 9:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-first-report-lovely-scent-compliments-no-clear-effects-yet/2523/6 "2007-03-29T09:35:36Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > Instant Gentleman is not meant to increase respect like A314, and has absolutely NO androstenone. Not even nanograms. It was meant to help reduce social friction caused by men who are intimidating, or guys who rub others the wrong way. Androstenone doesn’t fit into that plan at all! 🙂 > > We’ll look into this. Maybe make a test pack. Probably something that includes P74, now that we have more data on that. Oh okay sorry there I was on my spiel 😃 - I did not realise that IG had no Androstenone at all. It sounds like something I need to try given the vibe that I can give off. 🆒 Maybe there is something else in the IG formula (and possibly in A314) that causes seriousness/‘heavyness’? I guess the problem is that a molecule can do multiple things at once - as in if you take away the molecule that causes the seriousness/‘heavyness’ you not only take that effect away but the molecule’s other effects (like helping to DHV) which may be essential to the formula leave as well. If you do make a test pack for something like A314 you may want to include a similar formula to MX105 which has gotten good reviews from some of the younger guys here (like Sigma and examine). See: [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/different-a314-mix-observations-mx172-vs-mx102-vs-mx105/2632](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/different-a314-mix-observations-mx172-vs-mx102-vs-mx105/2632) Also Carrie likes MX105 a lot as well. Also a few ideas here for additional [putative](https://a314.com/) [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) that could be put into the new A314 alcohol spray test kits. I wonder especially if there could be something to avoid the distancing/excessively serious effects it has sometimes in social settings with younger people. Perhaps one or more of [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/), [P90](https://pheromonelabs.com/), [P91](https://pheromonelabs.com/) and [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) could replace some of the [Androstenone](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) for some of these test mixes. I would guess some [Androstenone](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) (and whatever else is causing the seriousness/distance) would still be necessary so as not to lose the core ‘A314 effect’. Tacitus: “the higher range of [Putatives](https://a314.com/), [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/), [P91](https://pheromonelabs.com/), [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) all seem to have this balance of masculinity and credibility/trust/attraction where the younger, jerkier pheromones like [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/), or the “youngish authority figure” [P80](https://pheromonelabs.com/) can be terribly offputting to many…” [P90… subtle, a touch social dominant, maybe ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p90-subtle-a-touch-social-dominant-maybe/985/2)? Tacitus: “**Did I underestimate [P90](https://pheromonelabs.com/) ?.. maybe so…** although it may require a stronger application, 100 [mu](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) + to kick in… at the gym I observed women were unusually animated, very chatty, almost noisy… same thing occured on the subway… even a reserved brit couple seated next to me became voluble… and I was afforded an unexpected degree of respect throughout the day… although not of the Clint Eastwood [P80](https://pheromonelabs.com/) variety, nor of the somewhat more erotic [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) variety\*… the upper range [putatives](https://a314.com/) so far, [P90](https://pheromonelabs.com/), [P91](https://pheromonelabs.com/), [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) appear to have a generally civilized, well sociallized quality…\* [P90](https://pheromonelabs.com/) quietly exudes what I might term **“empathetic leadership”** versus “authoritarian leadership”… in the direction of the wise, respected grandfather figure… I did notice that in important discussion during the working day, **I could manage the very tricky balancing act of being direct and forceful while maintaining rapport..**. I have never been good at that likable intensity trick… [P90](https://pheromonelabs.com/) seems to give one a boost there…” Visionary --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-first-report-lovely-scent-compliments-no-clear-effects-yet/2523)._