# Instant Gentleman for an 18-year-old: what vibe it gives, and pairing with Ammo **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 27, 2014, 11:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-for-an-18-year-old-what-vibe-it-gives-and-pairing-with-ammo/62298 "2014-06-27T23:44:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 4:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-for-an-18-year-old-what-vibe-it-gives-and-pairing-with-ammo/62298/21 "2014-07-08T16:44:20Z")
More or less the above, IG isn’t the mature, capable, steady relationship vibe of A314, more of the lighter smart/social “this guy **must** be taken” feel that can put women just looking for fun off - However, going-easier on dose and with more social/playful steering will go a long way to offset it or at last you will sweep them off their fwwt in a way that won’t care. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 6:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-for-an-18-year-old-what-vibe-it-gives-and-pairing-with-ammo/62298/22 "2014-07-08T18:37:12Z")
TAL/A314 Girl: > **[YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/)** > > Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube. watch?v=NAMJs-zfNGc IG Girl: > **[YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/)** > > Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube. watch?v=Vt0rz5iPuaA Same woman. Same day. ---
**Author:** ![phissith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@phissith](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phissith)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 9:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-for-an-18-year-old-what-vibe-it-gives-and-pairing-with-ammo/62298/23 "2015-01-08T21:26:32Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > IG is another status (Androsterone) product but more tuned to a younger person. Its kind of a smart/dashing/sociable status - Sort of the young guy going places vibe, compared to A314’s chairman of the board and more sociable/less likely to come-off as unapproachable/dad-like or funky-uncle to a younger woman compared to A314. > > Its also very usable with much of what you have - Ammo/IG/IS is a good all-rounder and IH/IG is a good social/status all-rounder. > > The last two years, Summer Ammo/IG/P75 (sometimes with a bit more None because of my age) has been a fantastic daytime/lighter social/sexy mix that does very well around younger women and adding P75 for extra attraction qualities isn’t nearly as difficult with IG compared to A314. > > IG is also an excellent primary around younger Asian women (up to mid/late 20s), esp those from a more traditional Han Chinese/Japanese background, who tend to demonstrate the classic Asian affinity/attraction for Androsterone most obviously. 🙂 I always wonder the fragrance is so strong that a few puff/spray of anything of these [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) will definitely get a response and that more akin to “Dude this guy just bath on cologne”. So when you see people with deer in a headlight how can you be sure its not because of aforementioned reaction? ---
**Author:** ![mrseeker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mrseeker/32/5177_2.png) [@mrseeker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mrseeker)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 9:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-for-an-18-year-old-what-vibe-it-gives-and-pairing-with-ammo/62298/24 "2015-01-08T21:43:36Z")
Difference between the cologne bath and the DIHL syndrome is that in the cologne bath, they will take a look at you like “wtf dude”. The DIHL syndrome does not give you that reaction, but they rather forget to count properly, they make mistakes, they bump into someone else, basically they look at you and forget that there is a world around them. EDIT: Only Ammo gives a very strong vibe since its 20% perfume. All the others are less obvious (6%). Even with Ammo I can just wear them and still smell good, onliest difference is that you smell a bit stronger in the first hour or so. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2015, 7:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-for-an-18-year-old-what-vibe-it-gives-and-pairing-with-ammo/62298/25 "2015-01-09T07:33:26Z")
What’s in IG besides rone? Anything? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2015, 10:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-for-an-18-year-old-what-vibe-it-gives-and-pairing-with-ammo/62298/26 "2015-01-09T10:42:20Z")
> [@Jdub](#): > > What’s in IG besides rone? Anything? An undisclosed steering molecule - Which makes a very major difference to the potentially boring/stuffy nature of plain rone. Brightens/lightens it considerably. I’m afraid there is not a lot of clues as to what it might be. Last time IG went into drought due to mone shortages, there were several potential putative candidates off the menu as well. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2015, 10:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-for-an-18-year-old-what-vibe-it-gives-and-pairing-with-ammo/62298/27 "2015-01-09T10:47:25Z")
> [@phissith](#): > > I always wonder the fragrance is so strong that a few puff/spray of anything of these pheromones will definitely get a response and that more akin to “Dude this guy just bath on cologne”. So when you see people with deer in a headlight how can you be sure its not because of aforementioned reaction? No - all of these except the Ammos are in 6% Neroli, which settles very light, so “cologne bath” is never a question! Also, I don’t get-on with FF21 (minor irritation), so if Im using Ammo, it will be in [World Edition](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/world-edition/) or Summer forms - both of which have less impactful scents than Standard. ---
**Author:** ![GorchFock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/90ced4/32.png) [@GorchFock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GorchFock)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2015, 10:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-for-an-18-year-old-what-vibe-it-gives-and-pairing-with-ammo/62298/28 "2015-01-09T10:50:27Z")
Don’t think anyone knows for sure or that those who know would disclose. Personally I think the formula is not too complex but effective. I’m not too good at identifying mones out of the Consumer Line products (xcept none and rone) but with IG I get the vibe of a certain putative. This is one great thread I’ve missed before. Essential reading about the whole Rone/status /IG/314-thing. (As any thread with MMDI, Mobo and Vanadium exchanging) I’d be curious if MMDI still stands to what he posted here or if his understanding about the complex has further deepened and changed. I’m circling around this issues as well with my mixes. Thats where my life is. 30 years. Sometimes reverting back to IGesque youngish charisma, fun, social - but aspiring to be a credible A314 type of man. Very simplified, but you get the idea. But it’s not as formulaic. As Vanadium pointed out, it depends on situations and goals. I’m experimenting alot recently with A314b, IG, IS as base-mixes. 1 or two sprays of A314b combined (or “steered”) with approx. 20mcg of IS, 10mcg IG and 5mcg [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) is soething I used to great effect. Respect, increased rapport and closeness with friends, very clear attraction hits with a wide range (age, status and attractiveness) of women. If you get the feel for those three products, you can reasonably cover the middle-ground discussed here between IG and 314. The much longed after unfailing fallout-mix, somewhere here it is. ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2015, 11:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-for-an-18-year-old-what-vibe-it-gives-and-pairing-with-ammo/62298/29 "2015-01-11T11:03:56Z")
I stand by this: > [@](#): > > **To add an additional sense of trust and position yourself as an authority (“tell me what to do”),** use with [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/). A314 and Instant Gentleman are similar in some ways, but A314 is far more serious and commanding. A314 provides a strident “follow the leader” effect that Instant Gentleman doesn’t. > > When you want a “light” A314, use half as much A314 as you’d normally use matched with an equal amount of Instant Gentleman. I myself would not put P95 or TAK in IG. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-for-an-18-year-old-what-vibe-it-gives-and-pairing-with-ammo/62298.md?page=1)