# Instant Gentleman + Instant Shine + Instant Honesty **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 16, 2010, 6:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-instant-shine-instant-honesty/38641 "2010-05-16T06:36:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 5
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> [@RADMAN513](#): > > I’d say it was more that than the mones. 30 is the hurdle. Figure at 22 she’s only even been able to buy her own alcohol for a year…you’re almost old enough to legally run for president. Girls in their early 20’s tend to see 30 as the barrier line. In a lot of ways they aren’t much different than teenage girls. Hell I work with a few women in their early 20’s and sometimes I feel like I’m at a slumber party with HS chicks. A 24 year old coworker came into the office just this past week wearing a barbie shirt made made for small children and chatted at length with most of the other girls about how excited she was at being able to fit in it. So yeah even though the age difference can be as little as 10 years or even less, once you hit 30 you’re in “middle aged/older man/dad zone” > > It can work to your advantage, but only if you embrace your age and come across as HER not being mature enough for you. I realize it’s too late but when that girl made the comment about daddy issues, your response should have been something along the lines of first being confused (you weren’t hitting on her, she’s far to young and inexperienced for your taste) to almost pitying “letting her down easy”. Imagine how you’d try and let a young teenager down that just told you she had a crush on you. Make the age thing a bigger issue for you than it is for her, You’re not too old…she’s too young. Then even imply that you were hoping she might know some women that were closer to your own age that she might introduce you to. Turing the rejection around based on the idea that she’s not mature enough for you, should usually create a mindset where she’s determined to prove you wrong. Reframing it in such a way as her simply imagining your interest not only lowers her guard around you,but creates just a little hint of embarrassment at her arrogant assumption. Very nice! I should reframe more. I find myself just making a quick confused face and then letting it slide. It def didn’t penetrate by any means. In the past I’d let that “get to me” but I didn’t actually “everyone” else was "going thru their respective bf/gf drama…I was just happy go lucky. This young girl in question, actually didn’t even say good bye to me just o them…I didn’t care. But I did spray a few more of IG and 2 IS…so that’s 5 sprays of to-go IG in 4 hour period. Yeah I should pick up a book on reframing from NLP. Do you know of one that is targeted for social situations? The books I had were very limited. Oh I’ve also noticed that night the “Birthday Girl’s” BF…who doesn’t live in NYC…long distance. Was basically eating my shit like it was fresh fruit and there was a famine. The mones probably helped at a bit but frankly he say my videos of playing bass and I bet I seemed like a threat. I nicked named the two Diva & The Beta with that young girl in the early part of the night. I’m focusing only on the bad with women here, but actually when I first got there, I was the man of the party. It was a real good time. --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-instant-shine-instant-honesty/38641)._