# Instant Honesty 4x, I bow down to the greatness!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 12, 2009, 9:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-4x-i-bow-down-to-the-greatness/30638 "2009-07-12T21:05:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![johnny\_blaze79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dbc845/32.png) [@johnny\_blaze79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/johnny_blaze79)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2009, 9:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-4x-i-bow-down-to-the-greatness/30638/1 "2009-07-12T21:05:44Z")
So I’ve been playing with pheromones for a few months, I decided to give IH 4x a try, holy toledo this stuff is crazy! here are some of the highlights in first 2 days; Friday (7/10/09) 4 sprays (2 to wrists, back of neck, and top of head) I head out for haircut - my stylists is a hot Asian, mid-late 20’s. Normally we have pretty casual chit chat, like how are you how is day going, but not today, here are the main highlights - she goes very much into detail about personal stuff with her boyfriend, and family ( we never got that personal before), and on at least 4 different occasions she goes, “whoops, oh my God, I’ve haven’t even told my best friend this secret.” - she starts to get more touch feely with me, kept touching my forearms - then the topic shifts to me, she starts asking about my personal life a) she mentions that last time I was getting a haircut, one of her clients saw me and wanted to “hook up with me”, but she doesn’t feel like she is good enough for me, and says “heck If it wasn’t for my boyfriend I would hook up with you” OMG, WTF!?!? the weird part is, when she said this it was almost like she had no idea what she said cause she kept casually talking like it was no big deal I then went over to my girlfriends house for a bit, and she almost immediately was grabbing, hugging and kissing me, normally I have to do this, but she totally initiated the intimacy, this NEVER HAPPENS Saturday (7/11/09) 4 sprays of Honesty 4x (same spots as yesterday), 2 shots of Instant Shine 4x, and 1 dab of Androstadienone see my mother for an issue w/ her computer, and soon as she sees me says, “you need to lose a little weight” ok wtf? lol - wasn’t ready for that, gotta be the IH 4x, cuz she never says this stuff to me - I now head to a local Hooters to see UFC 100 w/ some buddies, and our waitress kept staring at me, and found excuses to “boob” me every time she could - at one point she says, “you’re so adorable, I’d like to just take you home, but my boyfriend would kill me” WOW!!! (the looks on my buddies’s faces were priceless, and a few of them think they are the ultimate players and can score w/ any chick) and mind you I was not even trying to flirt w/ her or pay much attention, cuz I am a hardcore MMA fan and was really into the event That’s all I have one my first 2 days of testing, I love me some [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) 4x, all I have to do is say hi, smile and the flood gates open. I tried instant Openness, Scent of Eros, & CTTM2, but didn’t have as much luck w/ them. I have not tried Beta Androstenol by itself yet, but so far I’m lovin this. I truly feel I have gotten more out of IH than w/ any ‘none’ product so far, this includes, Ammo, TUTH, or IJ I cannot wait to experiment more w/ the ones I mentioned and some A314 to see diff affects ---
**Author:** ![ToBeOrNotToBe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eb9ed0/32.png) [@ToBeOrNotToBe](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ToBeOrNotToBe)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2009, 10:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-4x-i-bow-down-to-the-greatness/30638/2 "2009-07-12T22:51:42Z")
Well, there’s at least 1 advantage of these more concentrated variations. Less sprays are needed and that means a weaker scent. It worries me that sometimes I might be “scent ODing” if I wear 2-3 different products PLUS cover scent. ---
**Author:** ![johnny\_blaze79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dbc845/32.png) [@johnny\_blaze79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/johnny_blaze79)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2009, 11:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-4x-i-bow-down-to-the-greatness/30638/3 "2009-07-12T23:08:35Z")
> [@ToBeOrNotToBe](#): > > Well, there’s at least 1 advantage of these more concentrated variations. Less sprays are needed and that means a weaker scent. > > It worries me that sometimes I might be “scent ODing” if I wear 2-3 different products PLUS cover scent. yea that’s a huge reason I got the 4x strength, I did not want to be the “cologne guy” ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2009, 11:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-4x-i-bow-down-to-the-greatness/30638/4 "2009-07-12T23:16:53Z")
Fucking awesome hits bro, I want it but it’s just so expensive! > [@johnny\_blaze79](#): > > So I’ve been playing with pheromones for a few months, I decided to give IH 4x a try, holy toledo this stuff is crazy! > > here are some of the highlights in first 2 days; > > Friday (7/10/09) 4 sprays (2 to wrists, back of neck, and top of head) > > I head out for haircut - my stylists is a hot Asian, mid-late 20’s. Normally we have pretty casual chit chat, like how are you how is day going, but not today, here are the main highlights > > - she goes very much into detail about personal stuff with her boyfriend, and family ( we never got that personal before), and on at least 4 different occasions she goes, “whoops, oh my God, I’ve haven’t even told my best friend this secret.” > - she starts to get more touch feely with me, kept touching my forearms > - then the topic shifts to me, she starts asking about my personal life > a) she mentions that last time I was getting a haircut, one of her clients saw me and wanted to “hook up with me”, but she doesn’t feel like she is good enough for me, and says “heck If it wasn’t for my boyfriend I would hook up with you” OMG, WTF!?!? the weird part is, when she said this it was almost like she had no idea what she said cause she kept casually talking like it was no big deal > > I then went over to my girlfriends house for a bit, and she almost immediately was grabbing, hugging and kissing me, normally I have to do this, but she totally initiated the intimacy, this NEVER HAPPENS > > Saturday (7/11/09) 4 sprays of Honesty 4x (same spots as yesterday), 2 shots of Instant Shine 4x, and 1 dab of Androstadienone > > see my mother for an issue w/ her computer, and soon as she sees me says, “you need to lose a little weight” ok wtf? lol - wasn’t ready for that, gotta be the IH 4x, cuz she never says this stuff to me > > - I now head to a local Hooters to see UFC 100 w/ some buddies, and our waitress kept staring at me, and found excuses to “boob” me every time she could > - at one point she says, “you’re so adorable, I’d like to just take you home, but my boyfriend would kill me” WOW!!! (the looks on my buddies’s faces were priceless, and a few of them think they are the ultimate players and can score w/ any chick) and mind you I was not even trying to flirt w/ her or pay much attention, cuz I am a hardcore MMA fan and was really into the event > > That’s all I have one my first 2 days of testing, I love me some Instant Honesty 4x, all I have to do is say hi, smile and the flood gates open. > I tried instant Openness, Scent of Eros, & CTTM2, but didn’t have as much luck w/ them. > > I have not tried Beta Androstenol by itself yet, but so far I’m lovin this. I truly feel I have gotten more out of IH than w/ any ‘none’ product so far, this includes, Ammo, TUTH, or IJ > > I cannot wait to experiment more w/ the ones I mentioned and some A314 to see diff affects ---
**Author:** ![Bobby\_Marino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ec9cab/32.png) [@Bobby\_Marino](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bobby_Marino)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2009, 11:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-4x-i-bow-down-to-the-greatness/30638/5 "2009-07-12T23:22:40Z")
Hmmmm sounds pretty awesome. Now its got me thinking I should order the stronger versions instead of just the regurlar strength one’s for my first time. ---
**Author:** ![rejected](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85e7bf/32.png) [@rejected](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rejected)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2009, 11:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-4x-i-bow-down-to-the-greatness/30638/6 "2009-07-12T23:29:47Z")
> [@Bobby\_Marino](#): > > Hmmmm sounds pretty awesome. Now its got me thinking I should order the stronger versions instead of just the regurlar strength one’s for my first time. I’d pick up the To Go bottles first, then you’ll know what you what to get bigger stronger versions of next time. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2009, 11:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-4x-i-bow-down-to-the-greatness/30638/7 "2009-07-12T23:43:23Z")
You DON’T have to get the x4 strength if you don’t want to. As x2 will work just as great, but you’ll need to spray more in order to get a stronger effect like his. With x2 in order to get the same amount he applied you’d have to spray yourself 12 times with IH x2 if my counting isn’t wrong. > [@Bobby\_Marino](#): > > Hmmmm sounds pretty awesome. Now its got me thinking I should order the stronger versions instead of just the regurlar strength one’s for my first time. ---
**Author:** ![Domnk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/domnk/32/2269_2.png) [@Domnk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Domnk)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 2:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-4x-i-bow-down-to-the-greatness/30638/8 "2009-07-13T02:48:27Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > Fucking awesome hits bro, I want it but it’s just so expensive! It’s worth it though, seems to work much better when used at higher dosages then 2 sprays (at 4x strength) though. Two sprays, seems like an OD, but 4-6x, watch out, because the floodgates open, you can definitely get a bad reaction if a person is usually really guarded with their emotions 😮 ---
**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 5:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-4x-i-bow-down-to-the-greatness/30638/9 "2009-07-13T05:20:21Z")
I’ll bet you had no idea so many women were thinking naughty thoughts about you. _grin_ ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 5:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-4x-i-bow-down-to-the-greatness/30638/10 "2009-07-13T05:50:51Z")
4 x 4 is the equivalent of 16 x 1x IH. That is more than I ever tried… more than I ever dared to try… because at one spray of 4x I’d have a hard time keeping my own secrets. But mikoto, at 2x you’d need 8, not 12, sprays. Johnny, try this. Apply equal parts IH, IO and IS. 😃 That is more fun than I know how to describe. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 6:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-4x-i-bow-down-to-the-greatness/30638/11 "2009-07-13T06:09:26Z")
Ah, yeah I meant the equivalent of what he applied on himself (which was four sprays of IH x4) would be 16 sprays with IH x2. Ah, now I’m just confused LMAO. Thanks cat. > [@catlord17](#): > > 4 x 4 is the equivalent of 16 x 1x IH. That is more than I ever tried… more than I ever dared to try… because at one spray of 4x I’d have a hard time keeping my own secrets. But mikoto, at 2x you’d need 8, not 12, sprays. > > Johnny, try this. > > Apply equal parts IH, IO and IS. 😃 That is more fun than I know how to describe. ---
**Author:** ![cocoswt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@cocoswt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cocoswt)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 6:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-4x-i-bow-down-to-the-greatness/30638/12 "2009-07-13T06:19:08Z")
WOW! 4x ??? That must have been some experience. I have been having similar results just in reverse as far as hits but women also seem to be beyond normal nicey-nice. If any of you guys ever watched Sex in The City or and women’s show about fashion or shopping for that matter you KNOW how feisty they are rumoured to be at a sale etc.. but I was killing some time in a large dept. store that was having ridiculous sales with like one of each item and the women (four separate groups) were flocking to me with “finds” they were willing to give up “if I liked or wanted it”. Some girls (sadly) truly can be catty now that I know the 4x is THE ultimate I will get it as a backup for some particularly surly but worth it cases. One BIG question to evolve from the whole shopping incident: Being that the product is entitled [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) and we all agree it works great… if a person tells an obvious lie (you will see why I say that), are they already lying to themselves are unawaware in some way ? A VERY large and pretty older teen girl who was shopping with her mother. This is relevant as she kept saying about certain styles her mother was pushing (this is like 10 minutes into them becoming my new shop buddies) that her BREAST were waaaay too big for the outfit. In all kindness her mother kept disagreeing and it was true her stomach was much larger. I just guided her too more obviously flattering styles. Point is, I know it isn’t truth serum but is this unusual? Would it happen on the 4x? LOL From a phero-science perspective I am soo curious to learn. (also was wearing AM application of IO 2 sprays to back also where I put IH and 2 sprays IS/A). Glad to hear IH revealed so much too and for you! ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 9:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-4x-i-bow-down-to-the-greatness/30638/13 "2009-07-13T09:21:43Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > Ah, yeah I meant the equivalent of what he applied on himself (which was four sprays of IH x4) would be 16 sprays with IH x2. Ah, now I’m just confused LMAO. Thanks cat. Nope Miko, that’s still 8 sprays 2x. If it’s half the strength you’ll have to double the sprays. 😉 Hmm, I remember getting 2 bottles of IHx4 - I can’t have used up all that stuff already! Somewhere here one of these bottles should be lying around… I don’t remember ever getting such results as the OP with this stuff, but I doubt I ever used that much of it. Worth a try if I ever find that missing bottle! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 10:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-4x-i-bow-down-to-the-greatness/30638/14 "2009-07-13T10:00:42Z")
> [@cocoswt](#): > > WOW! 4x ??? That must have been some experience. I have been having similar results just in reverse as far as hits but women also seem to be beyond normal nicey-nice. If any of you guys ever watched Sex in The City or and women’s show about fashion or shopping for that matter you KNOW how feisty they are rumoured to be at a sale etc.. but I was killing some time in a large dept. store that was having ridiculous sales with like one of each item and the women (four separate groups) were flocking to me with “finds” they were willing to give up “if I liked or wanted it”. Some girls (sadly) truly can be catty now that I know the 4x is THE ultimate I will get it as a backup for some particularly surly but worth it cases. > > One BIG question to evolve from the whole shopping incident: Being that the product is entitled Instant Honesty and we all agree it works great… if a person tells an obvious lie (you will see why I say that), are they already lying to themselves are unawaware in some way ? A VERY large and pretty older teen girl who was shopping with her mother. This is relevant as she kept saying about certain styles her mother was pushing (this is like 10 minutes into them becoming my new shop buddies) that her BREAST were waaaay too big for the outfit. In all kindness her mother kept disagreeing and it was true her stomach was much larger. I just guided her too more obviously flattering styles. Point is, I know it isn’t truth serum but is this unusual? Would it happen on the 4x? LOL From a phero-science perspective I am soo curious to learn. (also was wearing AM application of IO 2 sprays to back also where I put IH and 2 sprays IS/A). Glad to hear IH revealed so much too and for you! Actually, at sufficient concentration, it actually is a truth serum. But what you are observing is likely a combination of self delusion and trying not to be hurtful. People who are very overweight almost invariably fall into one of three categories: - Extremely emotional. - Extremely stubborn. - Both. The majority are of the emotional type, and they are by nature extremely sensitive. For reasons I have not yet come to understand, there seems to be a tendency for them to react to emotional discomfort with an attempt to “shield” themselves with … more weight. Because these types are extremely sensitive, they can be tricky to deal with in a direct or blunt manner. Therefore, you have to “cushion the blow”, which can result in “losing sight of the straight facts”. The very emotional types who suffer obesity also have a tendency in some cases to be somewhat good at deluding or deceiving themselves, and that’s another defense mechanism, because the blunt facts are too painful to deal with. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 10:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-4x-i-bow-down-to-the-greatness/30638/15 "2009-07-13T10:06:23Z")
Ha, ha thanks bob. All this x’s can get confusing. I’ve always thought that in order to get one spray of x2 with using a bottle of IH x1 you’d need two sprays. Ha, ha nevermind. LOL. > [@bubblebob](#): > > Nope Miko, that’s still 8 sprays 2x. If it’s half the strength you’ll have to double the sprays. 😉 > > Hmm, I remember getting 2 bottles of IHx4 - I can’t have used up all that stuff already! Somewhere here one of these bottles should be lying around… I don’t remember ever getting such results as the OP with this stuff, but I doubt I ever used that much of it. Worth a try if I ever find that missing bottle! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 10:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-4x-i-bow-down-to-the-greatness/30638/16 "2009-07-13T10:43:34Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > Ha, ha thanks bob. All this x’s can get confusing. I’ve always thought that in order to get one spray of x2 with using a bottle of IH x1 you’d need two sprays. Ha, ha nevermind. LOL. Errmmm… yeah you do -\> 1 spray IHx2 = 2 sprays IH 😕 ---
**Author:** ![johnny\_blaze79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dbc845/32.png) [@johnny\_blaze79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/johnny_blaze79)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 2:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-4x-i-bow-down-to-the-greatness/30638/17 "2009-07-13T14:02:45Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > Fucking awesome hits bro, I want it but it’s just so expensive! Yea it is really worth it man, the hits are so blatant > [@moonwhisper](#): > > I’ll bet you had no idea so many women were thinking naughty thoughts about you. > > _grin_ I had no idea, it is amazing. For anybody who doubts [pheromones](https://a314.com/), IH 4x will make u a believer > [@catlord17](#): > > Johnny, try this. > > Apply equal parts IH, IO and IS. 😃 That is more fun than I know how to describe. thx catlord, I’m gonna try this combo tonight, I’m going to out with a few friends, 1 male and 2 females, we’ll see how it goes ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 8:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-4x-i-bow-down-to-the-greatness/30638/18 "2009-07-13T20:55:07Z")
Oh, so since he sprayed himself with _four_ _sprays of IH x4_ that would mean in order to get that same amount by _using IH x2 you’d need to spray yourself 16 times with IH x2? Right? (In order to get the equivalent of four sprays of IH x4.)_ Ha, ha if so that’s what I tried meaning all along, I think I just didn’t explain my self correctly. Sorry for the confusion bob. > [@bubblebob](#): > > Errmmm… yeah you do -\> 1 spray IHx2 = 2 sprays IH > > 😕 ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 10:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-4x-i-bow-down-to-the-greatness/30638/19 "2009-07-13T22:48:00Z")
Miko, just multiply the number of sprays with the concentration factor: 4 sprays of IHx4 = 16 sprays (of the normal IHx1) To get the same you’d need 8 sprays of IHx2: 8 sprays IHx2 = 16 ---
**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 5:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-4x-i-bow-down-to-the-greatness/30638/20 "2009-07-16T17:32:28Z")
I got a couple of bad filled bottles in the mail, so I am now getting a bottle of IH-4X. So I am looking at the good in the bad heh, so now I get to find out what all the buzz is with IH. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-4x-i-bow-down-to-the-greatness/30638.md?page=2)