# Instant honesty (4x) verses pure betanol

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-4x-verses-pure-betanol/21491>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [October 16, 2008, 7:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-4x-verses-pure-betanol/21491 "2008-10-16T07:25:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![perronec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/perronec/32/1280_2.png) [@perronec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/perronec)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 7:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-4x-verses-pure-betanol/21491/1 "2008-10-16T07:25:06Z")

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i’ve seen a few people throwing props at instant honesty 4x, when dealing with asians. I’m wondering how different the extras in IH are when comparing to pure betanol. I am unaware of the dosage of betanol in IH, but if you took a dose of IH with 10mcg of betanol in it(however much that is) and compared it to 10mcg of betanol, would you recieve a similar responce or do the extras mixed in IH really go a long way.

I’m trying to decide because if IH4x really does make a difference in comfort levels, i might go with that, but otherwise i’d like the pure betanol to use in some mixes i’m planning.

any advice?

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 8:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-4x-verses-pure-betanol/21491/2 "2008-10-16T08:53:23Z")

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I prefer using chemset beta Androstenol to [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/): more concentrated, better suited to homebrew mixing with colognes and affords more control to the user. Instant Honesty is probably better if you’re a spray 'n go type.

As for response, IH wasn’t very successful for me. Perhaps too many steering pheromones? I don’t know but it proved underwhelming compared to all the other nols I’ve tried.

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 1:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-4x-verses-pure-betanol/21491/3 "2008-10-16T13:31:04Z")

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I have both. Susually I use IH4X for the “spray and go” ease of use but do use the beta-Androstenol in mixes. Hard to say which is better because I have only used the beta-nols in mixes as opposed to using it solo.

Maybe time for an experiment or two?