# Instant Honesty suggestions?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-suggestions/6007>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [October 14, 2007, 12:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-suggestions/6007 "2007-10-14T00:32:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2007, 12:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-suggestions/6007/1 "2007-10-14T00:32:28Z")

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I’m considering getting IH with my next order, and I’m interested in putting a mix together that says “Alright, let’s toss this pretense out the window and be real with eachother. No bullshit.” I’m interested in a subtle sexual flavor, but not as a means to ultimately get into bed. Anyone have some good tried and true combos that keep it honest? In case anyone’s interested, I’ve already got a name for it. “You don’t really want to leave me Mix #1”. That should provide a hint as to what I want to use it for. 🙂

Thanks!

-D4

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**Author:** ![snook\_assassin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snook_assassin/32/1107_2.png) [@snook\_assassin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/snook_assassin)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2007, 1:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-suggestions/6007/2 "2007-10-14T01:30:53Z")

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Heya D4. Could you list your arsenal for me? I may be able to come up with a nice concoction for you.

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**Author:** ![Special\_K](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/special_k/32/771_2.png) [@Special\_K](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Special_K)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2007, 1:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-suggestions/6007/3 "2007-10-14T01:32:08Z")

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From what I’ve read, when applied to the mystery method and some of styles techniques you’d be looking at [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) for the comfort building phase, blah what am I saying! I learn from you, you don’t learn from me 😉

instant female magic + instant honesty? I don’t know, _waits for someone with some experience_

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2007, 2:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-suggestions/6007/4 "2007-10-14T02:21:51Z")

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The name [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) is a programmatic title designed to enhance marketing of this product. It doesn’t really increase honestly or cut the bullshit one iota. Zippo. Nada. However like all nols, it fosters looser lips and verbiage. In other others, folks tend to talk more. Sometimes it’s honest but in my experience increased chatter leans towards smalltalk and breaking wind. It ain’t no truth serum nor does it overwhelm freewill. Liars will remain liars and innocents innocent. It merely helps bring out more of what’s inside. What you draw outta your target is mainly depend on your skill and the mindset of the other party. All Instant Honesty can do is loosen the lips a bit.

With all that said, I like Instant Honesty but haven’t seen distinct differences in reactions from CTTM, Scent of Eros or homebrew chemset alpha and beta mixes. They all help loosen lips and enhance socialization. Sure there are subtle differences but nothing to crow about. Nevertheless, the more words they speak, the more bullshit I hear. A few well chosen words are much more memorable than 10,000 Androstenol driven motomouth streams of consciousness. But for some the mere act of mass communication is important, not the actual depth or meaning. I enjoy simply watching the lips of a hot woman move. I usually don’t hear a word she’s saying…

ONe final thought. Nols really work especially well when you target is 3 sheets to the wind.

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**Author:** ![LifeT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@LifeT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LifeT)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2007, 2:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-suggestions/6007/5 "2007-10-14T02:26:07Z")

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> [@Gegogi](#):
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> ONe final thought. Nols really work especially well when you target is 3 sheets to the wind.

that’s when you subtly ask what their credit card #s are lol 😃

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**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2007, 3:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-suggestions/6007/6 "2007-10-14T03:22:27Z")

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> [@snook\_assassin](#):
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> Heya D4. Could you list your arsenal for me? I may be able to come up with a nice concoction for you.

Sure. I’ve got:

Ammo v1.0 2X strength.  
TUTH to-go  
Instant Shine  
IFM  
A314  
[Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) to-go  
MX102 to-go

I may also look into a putative or two along with the IH order, so suggestions to fit the profile I’m gunning for would be great.

Gegogi, yeah, I know none of these are truth serums, but the effect I’m looking for is exactly like you describe. I want a comfort level that will help to facilitate emotional connection. This is with someone who already has a lingering one with me already, so you could say my “target” has been “primed”. I’m about ready to use my phero powers for good now. Gonna make one last attempt at reconciling with my wife. I need all the help I can get.

-D4

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**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2007, 3:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-suggestions/6007/7 "2007-10-14T03:41:44Z")

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> [@Special\_K](#):
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> … blah what am I saying! I learn from you, you don’t learn from me 😉

Ah, Special\_K, you’re too kind. I’m really but a student, and what the Fast Seduction types would call a “keyboard jockey” with my game no-skills. I’ve yet to actually do a proper test with my stuff, to be perfectly honest. I immediately started mixing up applications, with the one exception of my barbershop ammo experience.

I need to develop a Tater-like discipline with these things. 😃

-D4

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2007, 3:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-suggestions/6007/8 "2007-10-14T03:51:29Z")

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> [@data4](#):
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> Sure. I’ve got:
> 
> Ammo v1.0 2X strength.  
> Turn Up The Heat to-go  
> Instant Shine  
> Instant Female Magic  
> A314  
> Instant Openness to-go  
> MX102 to-go
> 
> I may also look into a putative or two along with the Instant Honesty order, so suggestions to fit the profile I’m gunning for would be great.
> 
> Gegogi, yeah, I know none of these are truth serums, but the effect I’m looking for is exactly like you describe. I want a comfort level that will help to facilitate emotional connection. This is with someone who already has a lingering one with me already, so you could say my “target” has been “primed”. I’m about ready to use my phero powers for good now. Gonna make one last attempt at reconciling with my wife. I need all the help I can get.
> 
> -D4

I dont know about getting you precisely that effect, but [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/), P83, MEO-EST and high-dosage EST all seem to have a “forget the past” phenomena. I dont know what your wife responds to but if you can get her to accept your current signature and add a nice high-value one…IFM + MX102 (if you know the dosage that works for you).

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2007, 5:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-suggestions/6007/9 "2007-10-14T05:58:42Z")

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> [@Gegogi](#):
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> The name Instant Honesty is a programmatic title designed to enhance marketing of this product. It doesn’t really increase honestly or cut the bullshit one iota. Zippo. Nada. However like all nols, it fosters looser lips and verbiage. In other others, folks tend to talk more. Sometimes it’s honest but in my experience increased chatter leans towards smalltalk and breaking wind. It ain’t no truth serum nor does it overwhelm freewill. Liars will remain liars and innocents innocent. It merely helps bring out more of what’s inside. What you draw outta your target is mainly depend on your skill and the mindset of the other party. All Instant Honesty can do is loosen the lips a bit.
> 
> With all that said, I like Instant Honesty but haven’t seen distinct differences in reactions from CTTM, Scent of Eros or homebrew chemset alpha and beta mixes. They all help loosen lips and enhance socialization. Sure there are subtle differences but nothing to crow about. Nevertheless, the more words they speak, the more bullshit I hear. A few well chosen words are much more memorable than 10,000 Androstenol driven motomouth streams of consciousness. But for some the mere act of mass communication is important, not the actual depth or meaning. I enjoy simply watching the lips of a hot woman move. I usually don’t hear a word she’s saying…
> 
> ONe final thought. Nols really work especially well when you target is 3 sheets to the wind.

Dang another excellant post, except the last 2 points 😃 and it wont let me rep you again ☹

I find IH makes people more talkative but in a more intense sort of way. Not that they tell you the truth but that they tell you more things they are not apt to just tell someone normally. Its just a subtle difference from IO.

> [@](#):
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> Sometimes it’s honest but in my experience increased chatter leans towards smalltalk and breaking wind.

I didnt know that one of the side effects of nols was breaking wind 😮 😃

Dont worry Gegogi, you dont have to pay attention, just watch my lips move . 😉

Tisha

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2007, 6:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-suggestions/6007/10 "2007-10-14T06:17:23Z")

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Tater finds that androstenols create a need-to-be-heard more than a need to talk. Ive had people say that they felt ignored or understimulated but around me they felt they could fill that need. Try 4x4x IH and youll see what i mean. They act addicted to talking to you, and if BS is needed to justify talking longer, BS it is.

With Asians, ive used this effect to get mostly quiet, need to be touched, need to be paid attention to, even a bit of possessiveness. And ive had some very interesting results by adding [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) to it. If you dont believe Tater, try getting a woman into you because of your heavy beta-androstenol, then start paying attention to another woman. Youll experience a different kind of HIT.

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**Author:** ![LifeT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@LifeT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LifeT)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2007, 8:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-suggestions/6007/11 "2007-10-14T08:03:35Z")

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> [@MadisonTate](#):
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> If you dont believe Tater, try getting a woman into you because of your heavy beta-androstenol, then start paying attention to another woman. Youll experience a different kind of HIT.

jojo’s gonna assume the HIT falls under the ‘ouch’ category?🙂

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**Author:** ![flaming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flaming/32/212_2.png) [@flaming](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flaming)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2007, 4:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-suggestions/6007/12 "2007-10-15T04:13:08Z")

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> [@MadisonTate](#):
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> Tater finds that androstenols create a need-to-be-heard more than a need to talk. Ive had people say that they felt ignored or understimulated but around me they felt they could fill that need. Try 4x4x Instant Honesty and youll see what i mean. They act addicted to talking to you, and if BS is needed to justify talking longer, BS it is.
> 
> With Asians, ive used this effect to get mostly quiet, need to be touched, need to be paid attention to, even a bit of possessiveness. And ive had some very interesting results by adding P83 to it. If you dont believe Tater, try getting a woman into you because of your heavy beta-androstenol, then start paying attention to another woman. Youll experience a different kind of HIT.

I believe you Tater!  
I would highly recommend [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) and it is better to get it at x2 or x4.If your a good listener and conversationalist its capable of creating a rare intimacy.

Im excited to add some p83 to it soooon to give a in the moment intimacy reps Tater thank you!😉

It does work well with Asian women Tater its partly responsible for making my new LTR (Eurasian) crave my affectionate attention.😛

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**Author:** ![Elevation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a8b319/32.png) [@Elevation](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Elevation)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2007, 4:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-suggestions/6007/13 "2007-10-15T16:24:13Z")

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> [@data4](#):
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> Sure. I’ve got:
> 
> I want a comfort level that will help to facilitate emotional connection.  
> -D4

I agree with Tisha, Instant Openness creates a buzzy, I’m At A Party And Everyone’s My Best Friend And I’ll Talk About Anything vibe, while Instant Honesty gives more of a Late Night Dorm Room Bonding Session type feel. Out of what you have, a combo of [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) and Instant Honesty is the way to go IMHO. You might try a drop of A314 just to give you some value if you feel confident that won’t intimidate her.

I’ve gotten good results with just 2 sprays of IFM and regular strength IH, but I’ve gone as high as 4 of each with no problems. The more IH you use, the more they talk.

That’ll give you comfort, creating the emotional connection is up to you. 🙂 Good luck.

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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2007, 10:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-suggestions/6007/14 "2007-10-19T22:13:40Z")

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> [@MadisonTate](#):
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> Tater finds that androstenols create a need-to-be-heard more than a need to talk. Ive had people say that they felt ignored or understimulated but around me they felt they could fill that need. Try 4x4x Instant Honesty and youll see what i mean. They act addicted to talking to you, and if BS is needed to justify talking longer, BS it is.
> 
> With Asians, ive used this effect to get mostly quiet, need to be touched, need to be paid attention to, even a bit of possessiveness. And ive had some very interesting results by adding P83 to it. If you dont believe Tater, try getting a woman into you because of your heavy beta-androstenol, then start paying attention to another woman. Youll experience a different kind of HIT.

> [@flaming](#):
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> I believe you Tater!  
> I would highly recommend Instant Honesty and it is better to get it at x2 or x4.If your a good listener and conversationalist its capable of creating a rare intimacy.
> 
> Im excited to add some p83 to it soooon to give a in the moment intimacy reps Tater thank you!😉
> 
> It does work well with Asian women Tater its partly responsible for making my new LTR (Eurasian) crave my affectionate attention.😛

Yes thanks for the idea Tater!  
I agree with flaming in that 4 sprays of [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) 4x (that’s quadruple strength) would be soo interesting to pair with something ‘sensual’ like P83.

Another interesting addition, if we had access to it, would be the NPA/TE for men secret ingredient (minus the Androstenone as Androstenone, while maintaining a ‘not just a friend vibe’, can also be good at ruining the deep rapport that IH helps to cultivate IMHO)…

Other candidates for bringing a sensual vibe to megadoses of Instant Honesty may be Copulins, P79, and TAF…

What I want is for the ‘sensual’ pheromones to bring out the deepest, darkest, most erotic thoughts of the target (IH megadoses would make them say exactly what is on their minds of course)😃 …

-Visionary

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**Author:** ![flaming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flaming/32/212_2.png) [@flaming](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flaming)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2007, 4:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-suggestions/6007/15 "2007-10-20T04:52:25Z")

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Yeah Visionary ill vouch for the effectiveness of p79 and mega doses of instant honesty!  
Even adding just 1xtuth to a mega dose of instant honesty with 10mcg of p79 has made for more than one highly erotic night of passion.

Instant honesty seems to create the intimacy and need to be listened to and the Turn Up The Heat stirs the subconscious with sexual impulses and with the mega instant honesty those subconscious thoughts and desires tend to get vocalized. While p79 amplifies it all while making you the obvious source that desire.

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2007, 5:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-suggestions/6007/16 "2007-10-20T05:08:54Z")

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> [@flaming](#):
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> Instant honesty seems to create the intimacy and need to be listened to and the Turn Up The Heat stirs the subconscious with sexual impulses and with the mega instant honesty those subconscious thoughts and desires tend to get vocalized. While p79 amplifies it all while making you the obvious source that desire.

Its so poetic, i think im gonna cry! Rep points!

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2007, 5:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-suggestions/6007/17 "2007-10-20T05:19:48Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Instant honesty seems to create the intimacy and need to be listened to and the Turn Up The Heat stirs the subconscious with sexual impulses and with the mega instant honesty those subconscious thoughts and desires tend to get vocalized. While p79 amplifies it all while making you the obvious source that desire.

I also get that when I feed my date a stiff dose of Jack Daniels and give her my come thither look!
