# Instant Honesty with negative after effects . ? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 12, 2011, 12:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-with-negative-after-effects/48797 "2011-02-12T00:10:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![lamentofking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@lamentofking](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lamentofking)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 4:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-with-negative-after-effects/48797/21 "2011-02-13T16:14:36Z")
> [@ChristianK](#): > > I wasn’t there and I have only your version of what happened with is filtered by your ability to perceive what happened. I can give you an explanation that accounts for the facts that you mentioned and that explains her reaction. > It started that way. Then you had a conversation where you felt that she didn’t listen to you and she probably felt that you didn’t listened to her concerns. > > You send mixed messages. > Telling you that you maybe shouldn’t be friends might be a way to force a decision on your part. > It might be simple a way to express the frustration that she felt at the moment. > > How do you go forward? The next time you see her, give her the copies she asked for. Well I only see her in class once a week and she’s a commuter . They typically only like to be on campus the days they have classes . I don’t know her schedule but I typically only see her every wednesday night in class . She said she would just find someone else to get copies from if I didn’t want to share . That might have been a bluff though . ---
**Author:** ![lamentofking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@lamentofking](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lamentofking)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 3:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-with-negative-after-effects/48797/22 "2011-02-17T03:30:22Z")
UPDATE: Well I’m going to meet the girl tomorrow. On sunday she text’ed me to say hello . I responded back with a hello of my own and we carried on conversation as if nothing happened. I’m still looking to explain myself though . For some reason the fact that she’s a senior and I’m a freshman hasn’t affected my behavior like it normally would … Anyway, I think someone on here recommended me to use IS (they thought she’d still be mad I suppose). Well she’s talking to me again like I said, so from the list in my sig, what combo of mones do you guys recommend now . ? Or should I not use them at all . ? ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 3:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-with-negative-after-effects/48797/23 "2011-02-17T03:57:06Z")
You could go with something like ammo + IS + IO to get things rolling. As the convo progresses, let’s say you may hang out for more than an hour, you could add a spray of IH to start the comfort/bonding process all over. ---
**Author:** ![Fly\_So\_Hi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/49beb7/32.png) [@Fly\_So\_Hi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Fly_So_Hi)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 10:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-with-negative-after-effects/48797/24 "2011-02-19T22:43:53Z")
_“-I think IH can cause instant bonding, but in situations where there are issues of trust, and things need mending, this can push people away until they are ready.” [thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)_ The quote above is in thegentleman’s post #17 of his journal, “[The not so gentlemanly adventures of TheGentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-not-so-gentlemanly-adventures-of-thegentleman/40443)”. It’s in the part Mix 3 of the post. Ask him for help about this, i’m sure he’ll be glad to suggest you a course of action or mones to mend it up. Hope i helped. 🙄 Bye! ---
**Author:** ![Fly\_So\_Hi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/49beb7/32.png) [@Fly\_So\_Hi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Fly_So_Hi)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 10:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-with-negative-after-effects/48797/25 "2011-02-19T22:49:14Z")
Hey, sorry! I didn’t see thegentleman had already posted a reply to your post, what a coincidence! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 10:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-with-negative-after-effects/48797/26 "2011-02-19T22:59:10Z")
To me it seems like you missed her signals, as you seem quite oblivious to her in the way you wrote your story. She gets hurt that you don’t seem to be overjoyed that she asked for your number and gave you a ride home. She’s put herself on the line to ask these things from you. When you treat them like nothing and act uncaring to the situation she flips and thinks “get rid of this guy before he gets rid of you”. Pre-empting the end of your relationship before you start one. Don’t get lost in the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) and forget about the communication. You’re 19 however, lots of time to make mistakes. ---
**Author:** ![lamentofking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@lamentofking](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lamentofking)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 11:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-with-negative-after-effects/48797/27 "2011-02-19T23:02:55Z")
> [@thegentleman](#): > > You could go with something like ammo + IS + IO to get things rolling. As the convo progresses, let’s say you may hang out for more than an hour, you could add a spray of IH to start the comfort/bonding process all over. Yeah . I had forgot to take the IO and IH with me to class ( brought the ammo but accidentally took two bottles of IS . !) Fortunately (or not so fortunate) she didn’t even stay the whole class . She left half way through but when she came in at the beginning (I was wearing one shot of ammo and 3 sprays of IS) I immediately went to apologize and such . She said she forgave me but I don’t think she did 100% . I’m judging by the sound of her tone of voice . Anyway, who knew IH could be so powerful . ! And I was considering getting double strength of this stuff (seeing as it’s the only mone product that has given me significantly noticeable ioi’s . IS did so but only on the first try and it was self-effect . It affected others subtly. As a whole now it works subtly) ---
**Author:** ![lamentofking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@lamentofking](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lamentofking)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 11:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-with-negative-after-effects/48797/28 "2011-02-19T23:04:27Z")
> [@evolver](#): > > To me it seems like you missed her signals, as you seem quite oblivious to her in the way you wrote your story. She gets hurt that you don’t seem to be overjoyed that she asked for your number and gave you a ride home. She’s put herself on the line to ask these things from you. When you treat them like nothing and act uncaring to the situation she flips and thinks “get rid of this guy before he gets rid of you”. Pre-empting the end of your relationship before you start one. > > Don’t get lost in the pheromones and forget about the communication. You’re 19 however, lots of time to make mistakes. Wanting to get rid of me could be a possibility except that she still talks to me and has even asked for a couple favors . ---
**Author:** ![Fly\_So\_Hi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/49beb7/32.png) [@Fly\_So\_Hi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Fly_So_Hi)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 1:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-with-negative-after-effects/48797/29 "2011-02-20T01:04:49Z")
> [@evolver](#): > > To me it seems like you missed her signals, as you seem quite oblivious to her in the way you wrote your story. She gets hurt that you don’t seem to be overjoyed that she asked for your number and gave you a ride home. She’s put herself on the line to ask these things from you. When you treat them like nothing and act uncaring to the situation she flips and thinks “get rid of this guy before he gets rid of you”. Pre-empting the end of your relationship before you start one. > > Don’t get lost in the pheromones and forget about the communication. You’re 19 however, lots of time to make mistakes. You’ve really made a very good point, indeed! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![lamentofking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@lamentofking](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lamentofking)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 2:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-with-negative-after-effects/48797/30 "2011-02-20T02:55:55Z")
Ugh . Now she thinks i’m this little kid . (I am younger than her like I’ve stated before but still . !) Well I know the solution to make myself seem older…IG . !!! [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-with-negative-after-effects/48797.md?page=1)