# Instant I don't care? What pheros make you not care? **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 17, 2010, 12:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-i-dont-care-what-pheros-make-you-not-care/42677 "2010-10-17T00:37:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 5:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-i-dont-care-what-pheros-make-you-not-care/42677/21 "2010-10-22T17:49:28Z")
> [@happykitsune](#): > > Yeah it was 2.5 mcg. I’ve read reports where even more than that can make people ignore and be rude to you. You got those results with one spray at 2.5 mcg. Amazing! Goes to show you don’t need to use such high dosages to achieve the results you need from these products. Then again different persons but I still believe that these experimones pack a mighty punch. > [@iSmellNice](#): > > P130 is “Instant Fearlessness”, which in itself, is pretty carefree! I’ve written extensively on it. It’s one of my favorite putatives. > > P103 didn’t have the same type of effect on me that it had on others. Many people say they got that carefree effect from it. I got a heightened sense of wanting to accomplish things. Read about it in my journal (see sig). > > But I’d also ask - what is it that you don’t want to care about? It sounds like you’d like a general feelings of peace. In that case, I’d recommend you check out P90. > > When I sprayed it the first time, I got a pherorush and felt like a Zen master. Totally mindful, peaceful, at ease. Not a care in the world. Enjoying inner bliss. > > P130 will negate negative self-talk, which in effect, annihilates much of your anxiety. > > P90 creates deep calm. > > These are subtleties. Different pheromone “salads”. > > The difference when wearing and not wearing it is astounding. If they start selling P130 in the store again, make sure you get your hands on it right away! > > But your self-effects will more than likely be different than mine. Try them all! That is why unbiased testing is very important, as well as detailed testing from the amount of sprays , the environment and the details of the product you used. We want to see how these effect different ppl , different ages at different places and environments. Obviously the results will be different and will vary and we need that kind of feedback. ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 7:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-i-dont-care-what-pheros-make-you-not-care/42677/22 "2010-10-27T19:50:09Z")
> [@kelsey](#): > > You got those results with one spray at 2.5 mcg. Amazing! Goes to show you don’t need to use such high dosages to achieve the results you need from these products. I wouldn’t say this means you can use small amounts with any spray. This product just happened to only need 2.5 cus of the effect it gives. If more was used people would start to ignore you as has been observed by others in their testings. This is amount of mcg is actually rare, from what I’ve observed. And people who often end up using the smaller amounts often don’t need pheros to begin with. Generally you need at least 25-50 mcg of a product to get any results. That’s the norm I’ve observed from reading others experimenting. And then you have products like EST, and sometimes B-nol and Meo-EST depending on who you are, that require 100+ mcg. Plus take into account we get used to this stuff after using it for a while. Sometimes even after just one use so we often have to up the mcg after the first testing. ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 4:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-i-dont-care-what-pheros-make-you-not-care/42677/23 "2010-10-28T16:45:07Z")
From my experience thus far, many of the putatives work best at larger doses, but there are some, such as p75 and p87, that only need a tiny amount. With p87, at a full 12.5mcg spray, it actually had to die down before effects could be felt. So for that one, an initial dose of 2.5mcg gives you effects more quickly, because you don’t have to wait for some to wear off. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-i-dont-care-what-pheros-make-you-not-care/42677.md?page=1)