# Instant Jerk and/or Instant Gentleman Alternatives? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 9, 2010, 4:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-or-instant-gentleman-alternatives/38457 "2010-05-09T16:10:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![talldarknhandsome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@talldarknhandsome](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/talldarknhandsome)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 4:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-or-instant-gentleman-alternatives/38457/1 "2010-05-09T16:10:58Z")
I really wanted to try out IJ, and IG but of course it’s out of stock so I was wondering if there were any alternatives that can give me the same effect of the two, whether is stronger or has different scent. After scouring the internet (Google is fuckin awesome), and the forum I ran across [pheromones](https://a314.com/) by Love Scent. I ran into this site before and ran into KMAC blog and wanted to try out Scent of Eros, and Alpha 7. I read Alpha 7 (or was it Alter Ego) is like Ammo but a bit stronger it’s like I’m purchasing Heavy Ammunition, so I figured if Alpha 7 (or Alter Ego correct me someone/anyone) is like Ammo then maybe there’s another product that’s like IJ and IG. I want a product I can try out at work since thats where I’m at almost every single of the day of the week. I want something that’s strong enough to work, but not too strong it turns people off. Any ideas? Thanks in advance ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 4:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-or-instant-gentleman-alternatives/38457/2 "2010-05-09T16:20:29Z")
Honestly all of the products are proprietary. I’ve looked up the products on LS and it SOUNDS like WAGG would be similar to IG in theory, Edge is probably the closest thing to IJ from what I can see. In truth I’d say just hang on for about a week or so, Steve says they should be restocked by mid may so you’re looking at MAYBE a week to wait. ---
**Author:** ![talldarknhandsome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@talldarknhandsome](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/talldarknhandsome)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 4:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-or-instant-gentleman-alternatives/38457/3 "2010-05-09T16:26:43Z")
Well how about something to thats like A314, I read some good stuff about that ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 4:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-or-instant-gentleman-alternatives/38457/4 "2010-05-09T16:32:01Z")
I honestly don’t know of anything quite like A314. Believe me bro. I feel you as far as wanting to get some mones. I’m totally out of everything save for a half a to go sized bottle of TuTH but I’m holding out till they get restocked. AD’s products have been pretty consistent for me and I hear both good and bad mixed reviews about LS’s stuff. So I’m waiting. ---
**Author:** ![talldarknhandsome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@talldarknhandsome](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/talldarknhandsome)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-or-instant-gentleman-alternatives/38457/5 "2010-05-09T16:50:49Z")
True, I too have heard good and bad things about LS, even with Androtics products it seems like some people can apply some products like Ammo, and Shine and get instant results but me I’ll apply the same thing to the exact same areas and barely get results at least results that is like OMG!! I thought [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) didn’t work but I did see some subtle yet noticeable results when I wore it, more smiles, establishing long eye contact. May not be anything crazy like a women trying to top you off after she got one whiff of your mones, but it was still results that showed me it worked and if I add this or did this I may get results like that. I also learned just because it didn’t work for you doesn’t mean it won’t work for me, everyone’s body chemistry is different, and these mones (from what I can understand) mixes with your body chemistry and for me in order for someone to actually be able to smell any cologne that mixes with my chemistry I have to wear it for at least a month. Jovan Sex Appeal worked for me, I got compliments on the smell, and even had women acting more friendly towards me but only after 3-4 weeks of wearing it. I definitely knew it worked when I took out my braids and wore my mini afro for a few days. I didn’t get it shaped or anything I just lightly picked it out, and some days I didn’t even bother but a lot of women was complimenting on it and said they really like it. I went into the bathroom and looked at myself like seriously? My hair is horrible, but whatever I went back to work feeling more confident and not caring anymore I honestly thought I looked great, and that too is key. If you are a confident person and you think you got it goin on other people will believe that as well. These mones increase your confidence and make you think you’re the shit which in turns make other people believe that as well. I learned a lot these past few days of trying mones I just know I have to be confident and stick with it. ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 5:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-or-instant-gentleman-alternatives/38457/6 "2010-05-09T17:17:42Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > Honestly all of the products are proprietary. I’ve looked up the products on LS and it SOUNDS like WAGG would be similar to IG in theory, Edge is probably the closest thing to IJ from what I can see. > In truth I’d say just hang on for about a week or so, Steve says they should be restocked by mid may so you’re looking at MAYBE a week to wait. WAGG is a horrible standalone for mostly any dude. It’s more of a buffering product. Edge is sexual in a tamer sense but PI is more on par with IJ but its still not the same thing and obviously geared differently since its only anone. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 5:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-or-instant-gentleman-alternatives/38457/7 "2010-05-09T17:21:26Z")
that brings up a question though, how is Primal different from Rogue even though both are none and none only…no steering molecules to speak of. They compare the two as Rogue Male being James Bond and Primal being Vin Diesel. with the exact same ingredient how can they be all that different? ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 5:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-or-instant-gentleman-alternatives/38457/8 "2010-05-09T17:29:35Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > that brings up a question though, how is Primal different from Rogue even though both are none and none only…no steering molecules to speak of. They compare the two as Rogue Male being James Bond and Primal being Vin Diesel. with the exact same ingredient how can they be all that different? The only difference between the two for the most part from what is known is that RM is in a glycol/ alcohol base and PI is in Oil base. I suppose thats the only frame of reference that can discern the whole James Bond from Vin Diesel thing. I have no experience with Rogue Male so I can’t really say anything definitive except the experience with Oil based none and alcohol based none is quite different for obvious reasons. ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-or-instant-gentleman-alternatives/38457/9 "2010-05-10T00:30:22Z")
IJ= lots of none prob. about 12 mcgs with some stuff steering it. Maybe just wear a shitload of none and add copulins if you get them, I am sure that will be close enough. IG= 15mcgs total mones. Known to be androsterone and thought to be tac as the steerer. Try messing around with this combo, maybe 12.5mcgs -rone to 2.5 mcgs tac or 10 mcgs rone to 5 mcgs tac. I think both are available. It might not give the exact results, because I remember reading that although the list 2 mones there could be more steering it as putatives aren’t really considered mones yet by androtics. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyHard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnyhard/32/1753_2.png) [@JohnnyHard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyHard)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 12:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-or-instant-gentleman-alternatives/38457/10 "2010-05-10T00:31:31Z")
TUTH is like NPA, The Edge, only sexual. [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) is really bad boy. I don’t see a replacement. Primal Instinct is very special, yes it’s only none but the effects are different form all other none products. It’s flexible and great respect. Some rumours say that’s special crystal oil secret…