# Instant Jerk and P83 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 12, 2010, 8:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272 "2010-11-12T20:37:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ronnierw](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ronnierw/32/511_2.png) [@ronnierw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ronnierw)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 8:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272/1 "2010-11-12T20:37:30Z")
Self effects = WOW I have had some nice self effects from IShine and A314; but the most pronouced has to be my recent purchase of [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) and IJ. I was a little hesitant about IJ at first because of the potential negative interaction with other males. those fears went away after putting it on. The reports of the “I don’t care what you think” attitude definitely applies to me. I put on 3 sprays of IJ chest and back or each hand and p83 on the wrist…on spray rubbed on and immediately felt buzzed, alive and just electric if the best way to describe it. I just wanted to do a test on the way doing some shopping and then stop and grab a bite to eat for lunch and had to report the self effects before i could even get out the door. I will definitely report reactions later. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 11:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272/2 "2010-11-12T23:06:03Z")
> [@ronnierw](#): > > Self effects = WOW > > I have had some nice self effects from IShine and A314; but the most pronouced has to be my recent purchase of P83 and IJ. I was a little hesitant about IJ at first because of the potential negative interaction with other males. **those fears went away after putting it on.** The reports of the “I don’t care what you think” attitude definitely applies to me. I put on 3 sprays of IJ chest and back or each hand and p83 on the wrist…on spray rubbed on and immediately felt buzzed, alive and just electric if the best way to describe it. I just wanted to do a test on the way doing some shopping and then stop and grab a bite to eat for lunch and had to report the self effects before i could even get out the door. I will definitely report reactions later. That word OD has kept a lot of people from playing. Glad you pulled your pants up a little tighter, and put your foot in the water, Ron! 😉 Hope it didn’t disappoint you, but if it did … TEST the same combo for at least 3 tries, and keep notes. What mcgs of [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) do you own? Good luck, and make sure you clean your kills before you eat’em! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ronnierw](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ronnierw/32/511_2.png) [@ronnierw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ronnierw)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 11:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272/3 "2010-11-12T23:35:34Z")
My [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) is 25mcg. Read a few other users posts on finding the sweetspot and figured one shot of that should be enough. Went to the store and walked in feeling in control. There were not a lot of subjects per se; but the clerk that knows me insisted that he would start to carry a product that they hadnt had in a while. Of note I did also notice that when another customer “invaded” my space i didnt care. As I was walking out a decent looking was walking in, i held the door for her and she got a nice dose of that chocolatini gave me a hard once over and almost stopped to say something. I Kept it moving and didnt give it another thought. After a nice scrub down going to suit up and head down to a local watering hole with the same combo. I may bring a togo of IS just in case I do get some negative reactions from opposing alphas. All in all IJ really changed my thoughts about it and I am looking forward to tonights sortie. ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 1:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272/4 "2010-11-13T01:41:37Z")
25 is a good dosage…most here including myself have found the best results come from between 40 and 60mcgs. ---
**Author:** ![ronnierw](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ronnierw/32/511_2.png) [@ronnierw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ronnierw)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 11:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272/5 "2010-11-13T11:30:41Z")
before going out to dinner I sprayed just IJ and didn’t have the same sesation i had earlier. I wanted to isolate the eletric feeling I had and associate it with either IJ or the [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/). it turns out I was in fact very chill and in control with just the IJ at 3 sprays. It wasn’t until @ hours later that i had to meet my friends that I dosed 2 25mcg sprays of the P83 that i got that eletric feeling. so it is definitely the catalyst that enhances what i am feeling. i was in total control. I went to the local resturant and sat at the bar to order something to eat. the bartender who is in a relationship remebered my name from before at another club and would wander back to make sure i was ok and not disappointed with my food or service. her bar back was intruiged also. it is an open air venue and there were 4 girls at the other end of the bar directly downwind from me. they seemed uninterested initially; and rther was a guy with them. i tried to check then out to see what their reactions were since they were the most direct victims in my cloud and saw 2 of the 4 making eye contact as i was trying to be nonchalant. the guy with them asked my permission to change the channel to another game and even made a coment about the QB being a great NFl candidate. I responded that that Qb needed to learn to read defenses and he immediately responded yes. I know very little about that team that was playing and made that statement to challegenge him because I only saw one play that he was way off on reading the defense and he blindly agreed with me and put his head down trying to look at another screen. before i left i got right next to the 4 girls and asked the bartender for a toothpick, she obliged and after a quick head snap to the girls on my left they were totally silent and staring or looking in other directions. 2 hours passed and I move to my normal watering hole and things got really interesting with a group of peopl that know me. my one friend a female is moving to china for work, she is in a relationship but tonight she was extra touchy feely, she even grabbed my ass. another woman i never met that looks like Janet jackson I told her ended up talking with me about her family and past for at least 30 minutes. even more interesting, my friends girlfriend responded in a very suprising way to a randy staement I made. It wasnt until after i said it that i realized" oh crap". She is not my type nad i love both of them for who they are, it just ended up that she said something salacious I did not expect and I repsonded to it. I kept my distance from her the rest of the night. The other girls that knew me were very touchy feely and the guys were not aggressive towardfs me at all. they were getting a little agitated that a pool game was taking longer than they liked, at which point I just got in one of the most vocal guys fcae and said " if you keep pushing and rushing everyone, no one is going to make a shot, so relax we have the whole night". after that I relaxed myself and won the game and no one cared how long it took. there was another girl I seduced without the P83 or IJ that was around me the whoule night that was even more friendly. It really got interesting at the end of the night in 2 places. one the othr military guys’ friend was dissing him, the one friend that grew up with him didnt appreciate anything he did. kinda pissed me off and i told him directly that he is an ass for that. Not that he was wrong but he wanted to rush a warrior that could be deployed at anytime and didnt appreciate what he did. he disappeared and his other friend waited patientely while he finished his celebration. the other were these 2 Asian women that were playing pool. I cannot remeber their names but when I engaged the one that appeared aplha from new york, she would stop what she was doing on the table and listen to what i was saying and ignored the other “horn dogs”. we went out back and exchanged numbers and she gave me a nice kiss and that was it. All in all IJ and P83 lived up to my expecations and more. there were actually more physical interactions that i left out in this report becuase the individuals were associatred with “significant others” that I respect and know that in this particular instance were REALLY influence by IJ and more like the P83. I am inclined to beleive that P83 was the motivating variable since i didnt have the god like feeling until after I applied it. I am definitely sticking with the IJ until it runs out or I get a real negative reaction from other males. as it stands now with P83 at least it had an a314 effect to a degree. I feared IJ because of other reports; but now I am convinced that I can have even more fun with it and P83. I have a function Sunday, It will definite;y be all IJ and P83 for sure. Stay tuned. ---
**Author:** ![ronnierw](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ronnierw/32/511_2.png) [@ronnierw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ronnierw)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 11:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272/6 "2010-11-13T11:32:25Z")
> [@thegentleman](#): > > 25 is a good dosage…most here including myself have found the best results come from between 40 and 60mcgs. thats exactly what I thought. which is why I went with the dosage. after tonight, I think I have definitely found a good baseline with [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/). ---
**Author:** ![ronnierw](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ronnierw/32/511_2.png) [@ronnierw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ronnierw)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 9:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272/7 "2010-11-16T09:43:27Z")
My testing in the bars and clubs friday, saturday and sunday night were pretty consistent and interesting to say the least. On friday night I was all “jerked” out with some [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) and was feeling pretty good. was with my usual crew, cracking jokes and was more social than usual. Later during the night more new faces came in and then is was game time. I chatted up 7 different girls got 2 numbers and 3 new adds to my facebook. I didnt have any approach anxiety at all and was just laid back. I did have a little bit of agitation playing pool and told a buddy to pipe down because hee was rushing the table. it was par for the course saturday. Sunday I went to a going away party for some friends and decided to make it 4 shots of IJ and just one P83. Flirting with our server got an unexpected reaction and livened up the party even more. Was having a converstation with one of the women there and talking about cats and somehow the converstation detoured to a sexual nature. I once feared the IJ from what I read; butt, will be keeping it in my supply from now on. It makes me feel awesome and more sociable. I am looking forward to try with other products. ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 11:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272/8 "2010-11-16T11:35:57Z")
haha IJ can be fun. Try mixing it with something like IG I got great results from that… an interesting mix would be IJ and IH like quad strength IH..LOL I can only imagine what might come out of my mouth. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 12:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272/9 "2010-11-16T12:54:31Z")
Well I’m glad you went with it. IJ is one of the best in the instant line if you ask me. I get ridiculous results with IJ and A314. I haven’t tried it with p83. That may be fun. ---
**Author:** ![ronnierw](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ronnierw/32/511_2.png) [@ronnierw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ronnierw)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 6:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272/10 "2010-11-16T18:02:24Z")
I think the [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) makes things a lot less uptight. On saturday before I went out I sat around before going out with just IJ on and without the P83 I didnt have that rush of “uh oh, trouble is in town” feeling. When i sprayed the P83 it was like electric. I felt like the hair on my arms was standing up for a few minutes. The P83 definitely adds something to the experience. Its hard to put in to words. ---
**Author:** ![NIGHTistheNEWDAY](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nightisthenewday/32/2148_2.png) [@NIGHTistheNEWDAY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/NIGHTistheNEWDAY)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 6:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272/11 "2010-11-16T18:12:31Z")
> [@thegentleman](#): > > haha IJ can be fun. Try mixing it with something like IG I got great results from that… an interesting mix would be IJ and IH like quad strength IH..LOL I can only imagine what might come out of my mouth. The IH, IJ combo was an interesting one. Rather than noticing what was coming out of my mouth, I noticed others (mostly women) testing me and calling me out on being a jerk. ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 6:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272/12 "2010-11-16T18:21:08Z")
> [@NIGHTistheNEWDAY](#): > > The IH, IJ combo was an interesting one. Rather than noticing what was coming out of my mouth, I noticed others (mostly women) testing me and calling me out on being a jerk. Ok, that is one I’m definitely NOT going to wear to work since I’m surrounded by women on differing cycles…LOL However, I am going to test this out in a bar at some point. ---
**Author:** ![ronnierw](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ronnierw/32/511_2.png) [@ronnierw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ronnierw)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 7:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272/13 "2010-11-22T07:13:54Z")
Ran with the same combination in all my social settings for the week and the most blatant and unexpected hit was at a friends birthday party in their bar. Mind you I was a little more than socially lubricated and wasn’t really in game mode, just hanging out with friends celebrating. A couple of hotties walk in to got to the bar, walk out and come back in loitering in my area. I acknowledged them and smiled and turned back to my crew. Another friend walks in with an enterouge none of which i had ever seen. one of them after about 30 minutes hovering around the bar comes up and says she likes my french cuffs, i chat her up after I let the cuffs open the convo. more random socializing, played some pool, and towards the end of the night me and as I later realized Dahlia were talking about stuff i dont remember. I was getting ready to head out and asked her if she had a facebook page. I pulled out my phone and couldn’t find her online so i said I waould look her up later. It wasnt until i work up the next day that it was her name and number that she gave me. What a jerk lol. ---
**Author:** ![samuraitea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/samuraitea/32/1998_2.png) [@samuraitea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/samuraitea)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 2:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272/14 "2010-11-22T14:04:21Z")
> [@JosieW](#): > > Well I’m glad you went with it. IJ is one of the best in the instant line if you ask me. I get ridiculous results with IJ and A314. I haven’t tried it with p83. That may be fun. That sounds Incredibly interesting!!! What kind of results do you find with a respect booster and a ego booster on at the same time? ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 2:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272/15 "2010-11-22T14:18:01Z")
> [@samuraitea](#): > > That sounds Incredibly interesting!!! What kind of results do you find with a respect booster and a ego booster on at the same time? Squeaky voices from men, center of attention, lots of pupil dilation, being followed around, some light trance and confusion. It’s over the top and a bit hard to handle. ---
**Author:** ![samuraitea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/samuraitea/32/1998_2.png) [@samuraitea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/samuraitea)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 3:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272/16 "2010-11-22T15:03:57Z")
Yeah sounds incredibly intimidating! Like you are the “Alpha! If you look at me wrong I F\*\*\* you up” kind of thing so people (guys) want to be your lil minions huh? I am trying this out! ---
**Author:** ![Morphious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce73a5/32.png) [@Morphious](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Morphious)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 6:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272/17 "2010-11-22T18:47:45Z")
> [@JosieW](#): > > Squeaky voices from men, center of attention, lots of pupil dilation, being followed around, some light trance and confusion. It’s over the top and a bit hard to handle. What was the ratio you used? And what strength of IJ (ToGo or 30ml)? ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 7:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272/18 "2010-11-22T19:10:21Z")
Used multiple ratios. 5:1 was the most interesting. 2:1 works well. togo bottles of IJ. It’s not just intimidation it’s actually fear. Which can be very arousing apparently. Think [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) would be great to test though. But I am 6’2 and 200lbs. So I’m sure that had something to do with it. But the hits were pretty solid. I got a response from everyone. Women went nuts with IOI’s. I thought they would hurt themselves. ---
**Author:** ![ronnierw](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ronnierw/32/511_2.png) [@ronnierw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ronnierw)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2010, 8:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272/19 "2010-11-23T08:44:40Z")
I could not get home fast enough to type this report. As a result i am putting anopther order of IJ and IG and perhaps [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/). I went to my normal watering hole, was hanging out with the crew playing some pool. this chick walks in with a beautiful alaskan husky, I let her pass and dont say a word other than directing her to the ladies restroom. I check her out and think she could bea good target. she comes out passes me as I am still playing, i lose the game on purpose because I see she is sitting at the bar and solo with her dog that by the way was sniffing and rubbing the hell out of me. I go to the bar where she is sitting upwind from her and order a drink and after that my night was made. She was litterally all over me. she leaned in to whisper something to me that I dont recall and said i smelled good and she wanted to bit me. I said go ahead and suprisingly she obliged more than once. next thing i know her or my toungue is down here throat and not a brief exchange, it was a passionate gropefest. after that we talked, she insisteced we exchange numbers and that her BF was a loser and she wanted me to take cate of her and we have to stay in contact. we exchanged numbers, she sent me a sexy picture and insisted that i call her. the whole time, even just talking about non sexual things I noticed her pupils were dialtated the whole time. to test my influence over her, i “told” her i wanted to taste her lips again and she had no problem helping me out with that and it was more than a few lengthy kisses at my command. now, the odd thijng was she was a year younger than my, super hot perfect body very in control. of note, before i decided to command her to give me another passionate kiss, i touched her lips to even out her lipstick with no objection from her and she was totally receptive. also she insisted after the first kiss that I kiss here pasioantely like I wanted her…she was pardon my french, a sexy bitch and knew what she wanted, i had been to this place a lot and never had anything even close to that. I have her contact information and will definitely followup. i will more than likely move to another mix to motivate her even further and see how she reactes. in the meantime, more IJ and IG is on order :0 Forgot tot add she was a bitter, she bit the hell out of me 3 times, and before she left she bit the batertender. in between that she wanted me to bite her and i did and she was really in to it. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2010, 1:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272/20 "2010-11-23T13:25:50Z")
Sounds like you’ve found yourself a modern day vampire, Ronnie! 😮 Is this a true story, or are you practicing for April Fool day? If it’s a true story, can I/we have to ratios that you used, pahlease! I love getting a female bite, but I needs me blood! Every last drop of it, too! 😃 [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272.md?page=2)