# Instant Jerk and P83 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 12, 2010, 8:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272 "2010-11-12T20:37:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ronnierw](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ronnierw/32/511_2.png) [@ronnierw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ronnierw)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2010, 7:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272/21 "2010-11-23T19:06:01Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > Sounds like you’ve found yourself a modern day vampire, Ronnie! 😮 > > Is this a true story, or are you practicing for April Fool day? If it’s a true story, can I/we have to ratios that you used, pahlease! I love getting a female bite, but I needs me blood! Every last drop of it, too! 😃 True Story. And it was a freaking slow Monday night even. Forgot to mention I used one spray of [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) 25mcg and 2 sprays each of IJ and IG ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2010, 9:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272/22 "2010-11-23T21:37:19Z")
> [@ronnierw](#): > > this chick walks in with a beautiful alaskan husky, I let her pass and dont say a word other than directing her to the ladies restroom. > Forgot tot add she was a bitter, she bit the hell out of me 3 times, and before she left she bit the batertender. Ok umm… What kind of drinking establishment is this? You sat down upwind from her? Where are you? She bit the bartender? Her pupils were dilated, maybe she was high. Other than that, awesome report. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![ronnierw](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ronnierw/32/511_2.png) [@ronnierw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ronnierw)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 12:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272/23 "2010-11-24T00:18:12Z")
Very small bar. For her to pass me to get to the restroom she had to brush past me to get to by. Not too long after she went to sit at the bar I was right next to her the rest of the time. one of the first things she said was how good I smelled. I doubt she was high, just socially lubricated like everyone else. I know the difference between the stoned fixed dilated pupils versus when they fluctuate. She bit the bartender giving him a hug when she was leaving lol. I like testing there because it “is” small and makes checking reactions easier. ---
**Author:** ![LoveDocta](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lovedocta/32/993_2.png) [@LoveDocta](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LoveDocta)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2010, 9:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272/24 "2010-11-25T21:33:19Z")
man i cant wait until i get my p83 im going to try it with Ij and see what results i can get. ---
**Author:** ![ronnierw](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ronnierw/32/511_2.png) [@ronnierw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ronnierw)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 4:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272/25 "2010-11-29T04:57:17Z")
> [@samuraitea](#): > > That sounds Incredibly interesting!!! What kind of results do you find with a respect booster and a ego booster on at the same time? Started a journal, [I want to bite your neck!!!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-bite-your-neck/43611) Got the A314B and used that instead of using my precious A314 oil. interesting to say the least; but definitely had me more on edge than I would have liked at times. got to test some more with just the 314B spray to confirm it as the source of my intermittant agitation. ---
**Author:** ![SWE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@SWE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SWE)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2010, 3:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272/26 "2010-11-30T03:34:53Z")
> [@JosieW](#): > > Well I’m glad you went with it. IJ is one of the best in the instant line if you ask me. I get ridiculous results with IJ and A314. I haven’t tried it with p83. That may be fun. I’m going out with a 21 year old Latina next week and I was thinking of going with this mix because she is a real firecracker! You have to be on your “A” game at all times to handle this girl. A314, [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/), IJ and some IO is what I was thinking… Scott ---
**Author:** ![ronnierw](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ronnierw/32/511_2.png) [@ronnierw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ronnierw)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2010, 6:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272/27 "2010-11-30T06:33:59Z")
> [@SWE](#): > > I’m going out with a 21 year old Latina next week and I was thinking of going with this mix because she is a real firecracker! You have to be on your “A” game at all times to handle this girl. A314, P83, IJ and some IO is what I was thinking… > > Scott You and I are about the same age range and 2 sprays of IJ and just about anything else I have added along with [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) gets the results i am looking for. I normally use IJ/IG combo with P83 and some shine. If you haven’t found your sweetspot with IJ i would not go over 2 sprays. If you had some shine that may enhance her perception of you. Is your A314 the oil or the spray variants? What strength is your P83? mine is 25mcg, One spray of that is all I use. Me personally i would go 1 drop A314, 2xIJ, 1xP83, 1xIO and 2 IS. I could even work IG instead of A314, the younger women in my experience respond really well to it. Just something to keep in mind, you just don’t want to have A314 make you too much of an authority figure. I hope some of the other experienced users chime in on making A314 more “friendly” ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2010, 10:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272/28 "2010-12-04T22:15:52Z")
Well, I’m doing this tonight: IJ - 3 sprays. Each side of neck & between forearms. P83 - 7 sprays, 10mcg in [Akuto](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/akuto/). - Head, throat neck,forearms. A314 extra fine (Just got it - what the hell!) 3 drops. Wrists, neck & throat. Boy, do I feel like an asshole already. Smart girl is gonna be in for a shock soon & TBH, she needs it. Been a little bit lax recently. 😉 Two good hits already - A guy on the bus beside me became very agitated & recoiled when I looked his way & a young readhed lass in leather, turned & stared straight at me for ages! ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 12:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272/29 "2010-12-06T12:00:38Z")
Right - That made for a most interesting evening. 😮 The self effects were noticable. I felt charged, cocky and in command. Even after a few drinks, when I’m normally getting a bit mellow, I was still feeling sharp and in control. Met Smart Girl and her pal who were staying the weekend off the bus for a night out and their first and second choices for places to go didn’t appeal to me at all. So I told them I fancied somewhere else altogether. No challenge, no dispute, no argument. They just followed meekly. Second place we went to, Smart Girl’s pal got talking to some drunk woman at the bar. Dunno what exactly was said (Smart Girl was getting rather busy with me!) but they ended-up having a bit of an argument, whish resulted in them being asked to leave. So we gathered our coats and went outside, where she and the woman were apologising to each other but still a bit tense. Next thing - Wallop! I was hit in the ribs and I turned to find myself straight into the eyes of the drunk woman’s partner, a weedy little runt of a bloke. “Don’t you get in my face” were his first words. I stepped much closer to him, whilst drawing myself into my most imposing stance and fixing him with a very firm gaze - “I don’t know what you are on about” was my reply. He started recoiling fast and was straight back into that bar and didn’t come out again! Smart Girl was most impressed and made a point of commenting on it and again and again throught the night! 😮 😃 Then on to a club - again, no dispute. I said where we were going and they both just followe-on, where we danced for ages, geting more intense and erotic as the night went-on. Smart Girl isn’t as much of a dancer as some others but tonight she was very different. Then we qued for a taxi, went home and whilst her pal went to bed quickly, Smarty & I sat cuddled-up for ages talking about all sorts of things - mainly centered around getting more serious together before returning to our own bed and finally getting to sleep about 8am! The only other very noticable hit was when I got talking to a big gay bouncer outside the club. He was very friendly and respectful, ending our chat with a huge smile and a big hi-five! 😮 :o ---
**Author:** ![ronnierw](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ronnierw/32/511_2.png) [@ronnierw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ronnierw)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 9:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272/30 "2010-12-17T21:07:22Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Right - That made for a most interesting evening. 😮 > > The self effects were noticable. I felt charged, cocky and in command. Even after a few drinks, when I’m normally getting a bit mellow, I was still feeling sharp and in control. > > Met Smart Girl and her pal who were staying the weekend off the bus for a night out and their first and second choices for places to go didn’t appeal to me at all. So I told them I fancied somewhere else altogether. No challenge, no dispute, no argument. They just followed meekly. > > Second place we went to, Smart Girl’s pal got talking to some drunk woman at the bar. Dunno what exactly was said (Smart Girl was getting rather busy with me!) but they ended-up having a bit of an argument, whish resulted in them being asked to leave. So we gathered our coats and went outside, where she and the woman were apologising to each other but still a bit tense. > > Next thing - Wallop! I was hit in the ribs and I turned to find myself straight into the eyes of the drunk woman’s partner, a weedy little runt of a bloke. “Don’t you get in my face” were his first words. I stepped much closer to him, whilst drawing myself into my most imposing stance and fixing him with a very firm gaze - “I don’t know what you are on about” was my reply. He started recoiling fast and was straight back into that bar and didn’t come out again! Smart Girl was most impressed and made a point of commenting on it and again and again throught the night! 😮 😃 > > Then on to a club - again, no dispute. I said where we were going and they both just followe-on, where we danced for ages, geting more intense and erotic as the night went-on. Smart Girl isn’t as much of a dancer as some others but tonight she was very different. Then we qued for a taxi, went home and whilst her pal went to bed quickly, Smarty & I sat cuddled-up for ages talking about all sorts of things - mainly centered around getting more serious together before returning to our own bed and finally getting to sleep about 8am! > > The only other very noticable hit was when I got talking to a big gay bouncer outside the club. He was very friendly and respectful, ending our chat with a huge smile and a big hi-five! 😮 :o Sorry I didn’t get to see your post sooner, been working and moving; but sounds like the [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) and IJ were right on point. It’s possible the A314 may have alpha’d you a little too much, just noting your age. How old were your visitors? Maybe IG would have smoothed you over a bit and made it less likely that guy would have confronted you. Unknowingly you may have made a gesture or looked at him a certain way and the P83 being somewhat of a disinhibitor made him decide to jump. Your posturing definitely made him think twice though. All in all I would say you had a bit of fun as you should with that combo IMO. Anyone else who trys it needs to remember “you” create an experience for all around and you will enjoy it a lot more. Especially with the P83. I never went above 50mcgs, but when I use it I have that same devil may care attitude. Oh and next time a hot chick stares at you, toss her a smile and if she smiles or looks away but returns to staring by all means say hello. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 9:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272/31 "2010-12-17T21:42:29Z")
> [@ronnierw](#): > > It’s possible the A314 may have alpha’d you a little too much, just noting your age. How old were your visitors? > > Maybe IG would have smoothed you over a bit and made it less likely that guy would have confronted you. Unknowingly you may have made a gesture or looked at him a certain way and the P83 being somewhat of a disinhibitor made him decide to jump. Your posturing definitely made him think twice though. Possible but in a place overloaded with “macho” characters, a different form of alpha might be an advantage? Smart Girl is 36 and her pal 37. I have found that whilst Smarty goes for alpha/status, her pal responds to a different and more social/playful choice of pheros. Never tried IG but I don’t think I did anything to trigger the fight, other than wear IJ. I’m a fairly easy going sort really but in this case, I’m not unhappy - in this case, it was maybe useful to send a message/demonstrate that I can handle myself if needs be. Not to him but to someone who will certainly hear about it. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ronnierw](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ronnierw/32/511_2.png) [@ronnierw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ronnierw)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 11:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272/32 "2010-12-17T23:37:22Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Possible but in a place overloaded with “macho” characters, a different form of alpha might be an advantage? > > Smart Girl is 36 and her pal 37. I have found that whilst Smarty goes for alpha/status, her pal responds to a different and more social/playful choice of pheros. > > Never tried IG but I don’t think I did anything to trigger the fight, other than wear IJ. I’m a fairly easy going sort really but in this case, I’m not unhappy - in this case, it was maybe useful to send a message/demonstrate that I can handle myself if needs be. Not to him but to someone who will certainly hear about it. 😉 Right on. Like I said. you may not have realized it; but you may have done something without realizing it that made “slim” froggy. That 3 drops of A314 in what you described a filled with “macho” characters with IJ definitely would contribute I think. IJ/IG combu I have had success with women in that range and younger. How far have you SP IG? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 12:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272/33 "2010-12-18T00:01:34Z")
Never really considered IG at all - the response to A314/MX347 by Smarty is good enough and overall, I get a good enough response in the circles/places that matter as things are. Apart from one character who needs to learn that I’m no pushover, the denizens of that bar don’t matter to me at all and I’m actually quite glad that Smarty’s pal now feels uncomfortable about going there. 😉 [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-and-p83/43272.md?page=1)