# Instant Jerk as a social lubricant: like a drink without the side effects **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 21, 2011, 7:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-as-a-social-lubricant-like-a-drink-without-the-side-effects/52928 "2011-10-21T07:04:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jbtlong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a587f6/32.png) [@jbtlong](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jbtlong)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 7:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-as-a-social-lubricant-like-a-drink-without-the-side-effects/52928/1 "2011-10-21T07:04:35Z")
For me I drink occasionally to become more social, but IJ takes care of that, It is literally like a xanax, but without the side effects, and like alcohol but without the side effects too. I just went to a function and while I wasn’t the guy walking up to groups of girls, any of my friends talking to girls I would introduce myself or if I saw any friends I knew I would jump up and start up a conversation with them. It isn’t like me. I also participated in a dance lesson at school, sure it was a group thing, but I usually shy away from dancing, but this time I felt like copying everything the teacher did. I tried one shot of ammo and one shot IJ and I didn’t feel like 2 IJ’s made me feel. I am surprised this isn’t being sold alot. It does a better job for me than a314. One spray does nothing but 2 is a good number. I feel also when i mix with things like honesty even at different app points, it kind of lesssens the effect for me. Just an observation. If you want to go to a party and be “that guy”, maybe you should try 3, but I havent yet. 2 is perfect. I dont know if I should take it further and build my tolerance. More putatives need to be based off this. ---
**Author:** ![Corveus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/97f17d/32.png) [@Corveus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Corveus)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 8:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-as-a-social-lubricant-like-a-drink-without-the-side-effects/52928/2 "2011-10-21T08:59:44Z")
Great post, thank you for sharing. I was about to ask about people’s experiences with [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/). From what I read on the sales page, it doesn’t really seem like something I’d want! I don’t want to seem like a jerk, but then again, I’m not sure how it will _actually_ affect me or people around me. You should keep posting your experiences with it! ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 10:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-as-a-social-lubricant-like-a-drink-without-the-side-effects/52928/3 "2011-10-21T10:17:33Z")
Its an experience - I’ll give it that but be prepared for some very extreme responses. IJ will strongly repel at least as many as it attracts and it can easilly induce agression in guys around you. But the confidence/cockyness - boost it gives you is also good fun. I save it for the times I want to let my inner bastard out! 😉 Remember it has five times the amount of none per spray compared to TUTH and [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), so sweet spots tend to go right out the window with IJ! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Corveus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/97f17d/32.png) [@Corveus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Corveus)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 10:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-as-a-social-lubricant-like-a-drink-without-the-side-effects/52928/4 "2011-10-21T10:20:41Z")
Wow… that sounds like it’s terrible, why would anyone want that! Haha. Man! If it gives you confidence, that’s great, but what’s the point in using it if it repels more people than it attracts? Plus, I’m not fighter 😉 ---
**Author:** ![treeon325](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f0a364/32.png) [@treeon325](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/treeon325)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 11:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-as-a-social-lubricant-like-a-drink-without-the-side-effects/52928/5 "2011-10-21T11:12:42Z")
instant jerk is a godsend for guys like me. i was wary at first, but i think its wat gives me that ‘edge’ . if your’e already a jerk, you might wanna stay away.but if you are a nice guy whos tired of finishing last, i would recommend jerk..along with ammo and a social. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 3:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-as-a-social-lubricant-like-a-drink-without-the-side-effects/52928/6 "2011-10-21T15:19:28Z")
> [@Corveus](#): > > Wow… that sounds like it’s terrible, why would anyone want that! Haha. Man! If it gives you confidence, that’s great, but what’s the point in using it if it repels more people than it attracts? Plus, I’m not fighter 😉 Its not terrible at all - All pheros get their positive, neutral and negative reactions but IJ takes it to the extreme and whilst the bad can be bad, the good can be very good indeed. And yeah, the confidence boost can be something else again, which as Treon suggests can be good for guys who can find it harder to stand out in a crowd. I’ve also never been entirely convinced that IJ was developed as an atractant, more to simulate aspects of an overall abrasive and highly assertive personality. It also has status, bags of it - but not the suaveness of IG or the fatherly/gentlemanly/professional aura of A314. In fact try IJ/A314 for a truly amazing shift in you image! 😉 And if you do get somebody agressive with it, also remember they will assume you are able to back-up that agression - Last time that happened, I just turned on the guy who statred on me, squared-up and he backed-down very fast. The lady I was with that night was most impressed! 😃 The other use I’ve found for IJ recently is if I’m spending the night with someone, I apply a single spray to my throat either after she’s gone to sleep or if I’ve woken before her. Every time, I’ve ended-up with her moving in her sleep and ending-up clamped on to me, with her head snuggled right-up to the app point, arms round me, usually a hand somewhere very pleasant and a very aroused/pasionate woman when she does wake! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 3:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-as-a-social-lubricant-like-a-drink-without-the-side-effects/52928/7 "2011-10-21T15:34:57Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > The other use I’ve found for IJ recently is if I’m spending the night with someone, **I apply a single spray to my throat either after she’s gone to sleep or if I’ve woken before her. Every time, I’ve ended-up with her moving in her sleep and ending-up clamped on to me, with her head snuggled right-up to the app point, arms round me, usually a hand somewhere very pleasant and a very aroused/pasionate woman when she does wake!** 😉 That’s **when** and **why** I use AE. Gonna have to take IJ on that ride, and see if I note a difference. TO-GO or full-size bottle, Mob; and would you think it would make a difference? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 3:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-as-a-social-lubricant-like-a-drink-without-the-side-effects/52928/8 "2011-10-21T15:50:31Z")
I’ve only ever had the fullsize of IJ M&M. ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 6:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-as-a-social-lubricant-like-a-drink-without-the-side-effects/52928/9 "2011-10-21T18:54:10Z")
It’s just like mobocaster says, IJ can draw some aggression towards you but it also gives the vibe of a badass, so things probably won’t escalate to a physical level. I say probably, because I don’t wanna hear “but you said…” if you try IJ and happen to get your ass kicked. 😃 I’m gonna try to stay away from it when I expect there will be drinking, be it by me or others. It’s in those situations things can go straight to hell. As long as people are sober, I only have fun with IJ. And as long as I don’t behave like an asshole, people don’t think I am one just because of the IJ. ---
**Author:** ![Corveus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/97f17d/32.png) [@Corveus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Corveus)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 7:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-as-a-social-lubricant-like-a-drink-without-the-side-effects/52928/10 "2011-10-21T19:29:59Z")
Wow, great info, folks. I don’t feel like I have a lot of trouble standing out in a crowd, and I’m not shy at all, except for when it comes to approaching women, in a venue where people know what your intentions are (bars/clubs) or during the day trying to approach someone on the street. Would IJ give provide that type of confidence, or is IO better for that? Maybe IJ does sound like a bit of fun 😃 Would some socials like IH mixed in tone it down a bit? Basically, I don’t want to be seen as a total asshole, unless it’s like a stylish high-value asshole. My ideal “Alpha” persona would be something like Tony Stark from Iron Man 1. He’s high status, but he’s very sharp, witty and extremely arrogant in that fun/attractive way. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-as-a-social-lubricant-like-a-drink-without-the-side-effects/52928/11 "2011-10-21T19:30:02Z")
> [@Misein](#): > > I say probably, because I don’t wanna hear “but you said…” if you try IJ and happen to get your ass kicked. 😃 Don’t do what I did and end-up drinking in one of the roughest bars in town on my first time out with IJ/A314. Interesting! :o 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 7:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-as-a-social-lubricant-like-a-drink-without-the-side-effects/52928/12 "2011-10-21T19:58:36Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Don’t do what I did and end-up drinking in one of the roughest bars in town on my first time out with IJ/A314. > > Interesting! :o 😃 I did even worse, started arguing with a biker in a bar wearing IJ and [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/). He was wearing his colors and he didn’t ride into town alone. Luckily he indeed was alone at that particular moment. I think the only thing to do is to not back down and let the other guy think you’re every bit as bad as the IJ in his nose suggests you are. Even when you feel your pants being weighed down by the fresh shit that just slipped out and the piss is soaking the sock in your left boot, it’s probably best to just stand there and hope you used a reeeeal good cover scent this night and stand your ground. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 8:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-as-a-social-lubricant-like-a-drink-without-the-side-effects/52928/13 "2011-10-21T20:05:24Z")
> [@Misein](#): > > I think the only thing to do is to not back down and let the other guy think you’re every bit as bad as the IJ in his nose suggests you are. Yup, the only way. Worked every time for me too so far! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Kaplan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bcef8e/32.png) [@Kaplan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kaplan)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2011, 7:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-as-a-social-lubricant-like-a-drink-without-the-side-effects/52928/14 "2011-10-22T19:24:47Z")
I ordered IJ today, its gonna be my 2nd mone after IO, was wondering, is it really the most ‘‘instant’’ mone out of the rest? I’m probably gonna use it at university a lot so just curious. ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2011, 7:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-as-a-social-lubricant-like-a-drink-without-the-side-effects/52928/15 "2011-10-22T19:31:47Z")
It has pretty blatant hits, if that’s what you mean. ---
**Author:** ![Kaplan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bcef8e/32.png) [@Kaplan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kaplan)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2011, 7:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-as-a-social-lubricant-like-a-drink-without-the-side-effects/52928/16 "2011-10-22T19:48:54Z")
> [@Misein](#): > > It has pretty blatant hits, if that’s what you mean. ok kl yeah, because in the description it says something along the lines of that it’s one of the best ‘‘prove it to me’’ mones out there. ---
**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2011, 12:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-as-a-social-lubricant-like-a-drink-without-the-side-effects/52928/17 "2011-10-23T00:02:15Z")
Personally I love IJ I think it is the best thing since mac and cheese ---
**Author:** ![jbtlong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a587f6/32.png) [@jbtlong](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jbtlong)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2011, 1:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-as-a-social-lubricant-like-a-drink-without-the-side-effects/52928/18 "2011-10-23T01:46:09Z")
I just sprayed ammo today and before I walked into a parents dinner I sprayed instant jerk once, for some reason one spray never does it, but two sprays I notice it. I don’t know if I want to try 3 to test what happens. My dad took my car to a mechanic and I left all my bottles inside the glove compartment, but I should get everything back soon. I tried 3 sprays of instant honestly before school and felt at home there for some reason, but it was really subtle. It’s got a nice smell, but at 3 sprays alone I don’t get effects, for me the instant openness or honesty I needed 5 sprays, but only of that to notice effects like 1 spray of ammo or 2 of tuth. ---
**Author:** ![jbtlong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a587f6/32.png) [@jbtlong](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jbtlong)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2011, 1:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-as-a-social-lubricant-like-a-drink-without-the-side-effects/52928/19 "2011-10-23T01:54:10Z")
^^^ sorry for the awful grammar and sentence structure, I just reread what I posted haha. ---
**Author:** ![mariocisneros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d2c977/32.png) [@mariocisneros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mariocisneros)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2011, 2:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-as-a-social-lubricant-like-a-drink-without-the-side-effects/52928/20 "2011-10-23T02:33:12Z")
> [@jbtlong](#): > > ^^^ > sorry for the awful grammar and sentence structure, I just reread what I posted haha. Lol you must have been under the effects of mones! Just like being drunk! haha… Greetings my friend! [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-as-a-social-lubricant-like-a-drink-without-the-side-effects/52928.md?page=2)