# Instant Jerk got my ass beat. Literally. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 27, 2009, 8:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-got-my-ass-beat-literally/29330 "2009-05-27T20:42:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2009, 2:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-got-my-ass-beat-literally/29330/21 "2009-05-28T02:45:42Z")
> [@diamond](#): > > If you haven’t done so yet, read mikoto’s thread on the Jerk, it’s an eye opener. Did he get in a fight as well, D? What’s the title of his thread, if you remember? ---
**Author:** ![dapg01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b3f665/32.png) [@dapg01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dapg01)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2009, 5:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-got-my-ass-beat-literally/29330/22 "2009-05-28T05:15:02Z")
Every once in a while you encounter a guy that is pretty much “alergic” to the stuff (-none). I’ve met only a couple of people like this, but when they are exposed to strong products like [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/), they flip out. One of the two I know is a sort of friend of mine and I discovered that as much as you buffer it, the -none usually still gets to them. Only products like 292 have been buffered well enough for this guy not to get belligerent. It must be something psychological, some guys can’t take the competition and are irritated with strong alpha phero signatures. My friend is one of those guys that needs to prove he is extra “macho” so in my opinion -none makes him feel he has to prove his toughness. Jerk has that risk I guess, so if you don’t feel comfortable with it it definitely is a good idea to return it and get a product you can benefit much more out of. ps. Props on the punch to the adam’s apple. It is always wise to avoid fights, but when you are attacked (a punch to the back of the head can be very dangerous), you need to defend yourself with something that will end the conflict and allow you to exit the situation. I was taught (had to use it once) the punch to the throat (or finger strike) is a great choice if you have that target open. However, it can cause very bad injury so make sure you keep it for situations like the one you described, and not regular bar brawls. ---
**Author:** ![Rovot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rovot/32/5179_2.png) [@Rovot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rovot)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2009, 8:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-got-my-ass-beat-literally/29330/23 "2009-05-28T08:18:30Z")
sucks about the back of your head man but, Wish I could coerce a reaction out of jerk. no self effects for me. 3 sprays so far. ---
**Author:** ![Drag0nsknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9de053/32.png) [@Drag0nsknight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Drag0nsknight)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2009, 8:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-got-my-ass-beat-literally/29330/24 "2009-05-28T08:34:08Z")
Well…on the bright side at least you know it works, try spraying it on the A-hole’s clothing, take a safe distance and enjoy the show 😛 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2009, 3:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-got-my-ass-beat-literally/29330/25 "2009-05-28T15:21:10Z")
> [@](#): > > The only thing I can think to blame is the uber macho male getting too much Instant Jerk up his nose from standing right behind me and instead of punching out the dude he was arguing with he decides to go after me. HE PUNCHED ME IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD! Awww sweety I am sorry you got your head knocked around a bit. Here I will kiss it and make it better. [http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/11/11\_9\_14.gif](http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZKxdm023YYUS) IJ is not for everyone and if you need to return it just fill out the return notice in your orders and tracking section and Mick will take care of you. You should give Steve a call and he may be able to help you temper it by suggesting what to use with it. IJ is a high dose of anone and anone is aggressive. Cant say we didnt warn you. Jerks are fun to look at but they are also targets for aggression. Plus ladies may like them for a little throw away fun but its not a keeper vibe. Just keep that in mind when using it. If your involved or married I would suggest steering clear of it unless you want your SO to suspect your a jerk. > [@](#): > > Every once in a while you encounter a guy that is pretty much “alergic” to the stuff (-none). I know your using the word allegic as a analogy but just to be clear its not a allergy to anone its a lack of mental ability to control emotional response that causes this. If men were allergic to anone they would be allergic to themselves. They could not enter large crowds or be around other men. Remember with all mones there is a individual response and a group response. Walk into a bar with a bunch of high testosterone producing men and the amount of anone in the air can be incredible. Some people are equipped to handle it others are not. its defiantly something to consider when using high anone products.’ Tisha [http://www.smileycentral.com/sig.jsp?pc=ZSzeb114&pp=ZKxdm023YYUS](http://www.smileycentral.com/dl/index.jhtml?partner=ZSzeb114_ZKxdm023YYUS&utm_id=7922) ---
**Author:** ![mahalo\_silver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8dc957/32.png) [@mahalo\_silver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mahalo_silver)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2009, 3:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-got-my-ass-beat-literally/29330/26 "2009-05-28T15:55:16Z")
NPA is another heavy Androstenone product that has proved similarly dangerous when dabbed on straight and not diluted. 1. Was in a 2 dollar shop a while back and the owner of the shop followed me around the store and was looking for a confrontation for no reason. It escalated and he goes “get the f… out of my store!!!”… 2. And just the other day again with dabbed on NPA from the night before [yes, some time after application], and i had confrontations all day. My local friendly barista at my cafe did not want to talk, an Asian check-out chick looked terrified and suspicious of me and quickly scanned my food items very agressively, a girl that i approached on the street immediately and agressively told me to f…off, which i never get. I wear Androstenone a lot for the motivating self-effects. It can get me through my days tasks as surely as a few coffees. I sometimes forget however that if i wear the stuff 3 or 4 days straight, even [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), i’m gonna be pissing off the people around me. 1. Ammo itself and other light -none products can also cause agressive reactions from males if worn concurrently over a few days. Ive noticed bouncers at bars and clubs can react badly to it and sometimes respond by not letting me enter the club… 2. Also can be a ethnic thing. Be careful around big, “macho” guys like Islanders. So had a bad experience while wearing with Ammo and this Polynesian thug threw a punch at me out of nowhere. He was a big, hulking football player type oozing in natural testosterone and high levels of Androstenone. I guess when testing socially to gauge female reactions, i always remember to buffer my -none. But when wearing for self-effects and generally just in my own world getting on with daily tasks, i want the pure rev-up boost that -none can give me, like if i’m about to work out in the gym, then i sometimes forget to buffer and get myself in trouble… Best Androstenone buffering agents IMO are p86, or IH, or -Rone, or TAH. IS good too when combined with 1 of these buffers. ---
**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 8:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-got-my-ass-beat-literally/29330/27 "2009-05-29T08:10:29Z")
i’m sorry but there’s a couple of things about this that i have to point out: 1. you went to a bar that played metal 2. there were ALREADY guys arguing 3. previously mentioned guys got close and you got hit isn’t this kinda like running out in the middle of the street and getting hit by a car and attributing that to what you were wearing? are you sure it was the instant jerk? ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 12:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-got-my-ass-beat-literally/29330/28 "2009-05-29T12:14:05Z")
> [@meow333x](#): > > i’m sorry but there’s a couple of things about this that i have to point out: > > 1. you went to a bar that played metal > 2. there were ALREADY guys arguing > 3. previously mentioned guys got close and you got hit > > isn’t this kinda like running out in the middle of the street and getting hit by a car and attributing that to what you were wearing? > > **are you sure it was the instant jerk**? I’m sorry, but I’d have to vote YES. I use to be a bouncer, and I wore NPA to signal out the alpha “I don’t take no shit!” Each and every time a fight started (about 4 IF I remember correctly), it was next to me. -None, alcohol, and bad attitudes = Yes, it was the Jerk! I bet YES. Whenever I wear NPA … I talk to myself when I drive … _ **“Don’t speed. Don’t speed. Watch the speed limit.”** _ ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 3:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-got-my-ass-beat-literally/29330/29 "2009-05-29T15:21:10Z")
im betting this was a _medly_ of opportunity, _including and especially_ the mones…😉 ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 8:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-got-my-ass-beat-literally/29330/30 "2009-05-29T20:45:05Z")
This is why I have always warned against using high levels of androstenone. During testing over the years, for the creation of Panty Scorcher, I have managed to discover ways to destroy engagements, piss off myself and everyone around me, get into heated arguments with store and restaurant owners, and get into verbal and physical fights because of it. I also learned that it depends as much on the amount as it does the buffers, and as much on the amount as on who you are around, their state of mind/inebriation, and so on. The whole mix you wore would have not come close to sufficiently buffered the 25+ mcg of androstenone you were wearing, and you saw that first hand. Add in alcohol, metal, an argument in progress, and the anger they were already feeling… and you were effectively (and obviously unknowingly and unintentionally) asking for it. In the future, I suggest you use a LOT less androstenone (2.5 to 7.5 mcg is plenty), buffer it sufficiently, and mind the environment and the mindsets of its enhabitants. Avoid alcohol and high amounts of androstenone around males. ---
**Author:** ![1904iNcUbUs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1904incubus/32/1694_2.png) [@1904iNcUbUs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1904iNcUbUs)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 9:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-got-my-ass-beat-literally/29330/31 "2009-05-29T21:51:50Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > This is why I have always warned against using high levels of androstenone. During testing over the years, for the creation of Panty Scorcher, I have managed to discover ways to destroy engagements, piss off myself and everyone around me, get into heated arguments with store and restaurant owners, and get into verbal and physical fights because of it. > > I also learned that it depends as much on the amount as it does the buffers, and as much on the amount as on who you are around, their state of mind/inebriation, and so on. > > The whole mix you wore would have not come close to sufficiently buffered the 25+ mcg of androstenone you were wearing, and you saw that first hand. Add in alcohol, metal, an argument in progress, and the anger they were already feeling… and you were effectively (and obviously unknowingly and unintentionally) asking for it. > > In the future, I suggest you use a LOT less androstenone (2.5 to 7.5 mcg is plenty), buffer it sufficiently, and mind the environment and the mindsets of its enhabitants. Avoid alcohol and high amounts of androstenone around males. thanks bro ---
**Author:** ![supernoober](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@supernoober](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/supernoober)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2009, 12:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-got-my-ass-beat-literally/29330/32 "2009-05-30T00:37:49Z")
Does -none ever make guys around you more passive to you? ---
**Author:** ![1904iNcUbUs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1904incubus/32/1694_2.png) [@1904iNcUbUs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1904iNcUbUs)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2009, 1:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-got-my-ass-beat-literally/29330/33 "2009-05-30T01:08:22Z")
> [@supernoober](#): > > Does -none ever make guys around you more passive to you? when I wear TUTH out it notice some guys will be more submissive. almost as if they KNOW i’m the king of the castle and i’m tryin to find a sheath for my sword. some guys will guide your sword, others with try and block it… [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-got-my-ass-beat-literally/29330.md?page=1)