# Instant Jerk... IDEAL for College Guys? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 12, 2007, 4:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-ideal-for-college-guys/2474 "2007-03-12T16:24:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![smn1234](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smn1234/32/2430_2.png) [@smn1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smn1234)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 4:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-ideal-for-college-guys/2474/1 "2007-03-12T16:24:48Z")
I don’t mean to create debate but I’ve typically read and noticed that girls senior-high thru college tend to go for the jerks, instead of the ‘nice’ guys (which I believe I am) 😉 Hence.. I was wondering… would the [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) product be ideal for the college environment and lead more girls to have more interest in you/ ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 5:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-ideal-for-college-guys/2474/2 "2007-03-12T17:42:56Z")
You should be getting some responses and personally I have not tried the [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/). I will say this though: every one will have a different experience so it’s no telling. You could have a guy who is really nice and dorky (not saying you are, just an example) and it doesn’t mesh with him. Think someone like Steve Urkell wearing Instant Jerk! You get the picture right? It’s not congruent with who Urkel is. On the other hand imagine Sean Penn in Bad Boys is what IJ represents. Get a to go bottle and try it out, just be sure you match your attitude to what you are purporting to be. I’m not saying go out and be a louse, but rather be the suave guy who is cocky, but also confident and charming. I don’t really believe women like Jerks, I think they like guys who have a strong personality and are sure of themselves. The guy who’s not afraid to tell the girl NO and means it. I used to be that nice guy and whenever I saw this I thought hey that guys a jerk. Why on all things good would he treat that girl so mean? She should be with me, not a jerk like him. The paradigm shift came when I figured out it wasn’t that he was being a jerk, he had strong boundaries and were exerting them. Believe me when I tell you this; women love a man with strong boundaries. It makes them feel safe and comfortable around that guy. Good luck ---
**Author:** ![smn1234](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smn1234/32/2430_2.png) [@smn1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smn1234)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 6:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-ideal-for-college-guys/2474/3 "2007-03-12T18:27:14Z")
hah that’s old news… I already know this.. I’m asking purely from the [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) use point of view… ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 6:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-ideal-for-college-guys/2474/4 "2007-03-12T18:47:01Z")
[Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) is copulins and -none. It will make you apear like you just had sex. The large quantities of -none can cause agression, irritablity, nervousness (aka the jerk side), and the copulins in addition to the -none give you the bad boy image because copulins are a diffusive fatty acid found in the vagina during ovulation (and other times, but the positive effects of copulins are during ovulation as the chemical changes to different forums thought the cycle) The copulins will also increase testosterone levels by up to 150% There is a forum debate as to whether the copulins need to be on a woman or not. My opinion is, a chemical is a chemical. Your body will process it, and get the same results. It doesn’t matter if you smell a dog sprayed with copulins, you body isn’t going to process the material differently. To me that’s like saying if I drink fake mountan dew i won’t be affected by the caffiene. The discression is over visual stimuli being a factor. The bad thing about copulins is that they can scare of women. Some women are attracted due the band wagon effect. If some other girls wants you, then she should too. Other girls are repelled and avoid because they subconciously detect that you just got laid. So you are wearing copulins which may or may not repel girls, then large quantities of -none which may or may not repel girls, and can create agression; and your testosterone levels are high. It’s one hell of a combination. I will give it that. I could be dicey. I’d say that if you get a hit, it will be profound, but otherwise you might be the lone wolf for the night. Get a togo bottle for sure. Do some trials and see where it leads you. It could be a lot of fun.😉 ---
**Author:** ![smn1234](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smn1234/32/2430_2.png) [@smn1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smn1234)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 7:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-ideal-for-college-guys/2474/5 "2007-03-12T19:01:44Z")
Oyy.. that just complicated things.. haha ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 9:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-ideal-for-college-guys/2474/6 "2007-03-12T21:32:19Z")
> [@](#): > > The copulins will also increase testosterone levels by up to 150% There is a forum debate as to whether the copulins need to be on a woman or not. My opinion is, a chemical is a chemical. Your body will process it, and get the same results. I think visual stimuli, audio and ensuing psychological trauma of a naked moaning woman add considerably to your excitment and T-levels. Cops, without the accompanying woman, will barely register on the radar screen and certainly won’t trigger any secondary systems, e.g., no dialated eyes, boner, increased heatbeat and–most significantly–impared judgement. Not at all the same results. I can get pretty pumped up at the mere sound of a sensuous female voice or even an erotic picture. A good shiff of Essence of Woman doesn’t do a thing for me although real pussy propells me straight into hog heaven. ---
**Author:** ![smn1234](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smn1234/32/2430_2.png) [@smn1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smn1234)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 9:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-ideal-for-college-guys/2474/7 "2007-03-12T21:37:47Z")
So, basically.. all this product is is an extract of pussy juice that you spray on yourself… ☹ nice…😠 ---
**Author:** ![chads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@chads](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chads)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2007, 2:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-ideal-for-college-guys/2474/8 "2007-03-13T02:53:13Z")
No, it is a combination of 'none and “pussy juice”. And there is quite a bit of 'none in it. ---
**Author:** ![smn1234](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smn1234/32/2430_2.png) [@smn1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smn1234)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2007, 10:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-ideal-for-college-guys/2474/9 "2007-03-13T22:51:41Z")
So, where does the latter come from? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2007, 11:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-ideal-for-college-guys/2474/10 "2007-03-13T23:36:26Z")
umm im just going to state for the record that _there will infact_ be women attracted to 'none and pj. unfortunately for you, with the addition of your own production of 'none, this will require experimenting and dosing to find what works. my personal opinion is that the kind of woman that smells aggression mixed with the “other woman” scent and _wants some of th_at is going to want it with or without instant jerk,LOL i think though if your leaning towards trying it the whole forum will learn alot from your experiences, so _please please please_ post about it if you try it. umm… that is all :o ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 7:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-ideal-for-college-guys/2474/11 "2007-03-14T07:13:22Z")
> [@](#): > > So, where does the latter come from? Back in the day, we harvested PJ from drunk college coeds we met at keggers and bars. We’d take them home and get them drunk enough to pass out, and then, and only then, would we do our dirty deed. After collection we stored the precious vials of joy juice in the freezer to keep them fresh (goes bad in a matter of hours). A dab behind yo left hear 'n you was da man. Nowadays, PJ is synthesized in a lab from petroleum distillates. It really doesn’t work as well as the real deal. Amazingly, every woman smells very different and is oh so intoxicating. That lab sh!t is all the same–smells like bad vinegar–and makes ma willie tuck between ma legs. I wouldn’t put that crap on my body. Wanta hear how to harvest real human androstenone? ---
**Author:** ![Nunya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac8455/32.png) [@Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nunya)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 11:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-ideal-for-college-guys/2474/12 "2007-03-14T11:19:24Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Wanta hear how to harvest real human androstenone? yes please! ---
**Author:** ![smn1234](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smn1234/32/2430_2.png) [@smn1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smn1234)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 2:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-ideal-for-college-guys/2474/13 "2007-03-14T14:09:12Z")
haha… yes I do 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 9:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-ideal-for-college-guys/2474/14 "2007-03-14T21:50:01Z")
Younger men are an excellent source of Androstenone. Although you can harvest small amounts of androstenone from saliva, urine or by scraping armpits after a workout, these sources are grossly impure and laden with bacteria. The purest source is the male musk gland/sac, adjacent to the anus and scrotum. Although surgical removal yields the largest single sample, such procedures are often painful and may result in serious health and psychological complications later. However, the sac may be massaged or “milked” every other day for repeated yields up to 5ml in larger males (1ml or less in immature and older males). It is said that he rubbing or kneading of the musk sac aids in circulation, relaxes the muscles, and provides sensual stimulation. Incidentally, boar drool and urine are also excellent sources of androstenone. ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2007, 12:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-ideal-for-college-guys/2474/15 "2007-03-19T00:11:51Z")
Here you go Lor, I’ll come outta the woodwork and share. So I’ve tried [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) on two separate occasions. Once at a college party, and once at the mall to go get lunch. Since Instant Jerk is pretty much made up of none, I’ll let you guys know that I’m 19 yo, 6’0, 165 lbs, and Korean. I play lacrosse every weekend and exercise in between. As far as I know that’s about everything that’s relevant to none production, so I hope that helps give you an idea of how much none I might or might not be producing, if interested. So first the college party. I headed out the house, showered and changed, wearing no pheros. I can’t remember, but I don’t think I worked out that day. Maybe the day before. Anyways, shit happens and I put on 1-2 sprays neck/chest area. Overall, I could feel the sharpness of it. I didn’t notice any large effects positively or negatively, in general. One event worth noting, when I was walking back from the keg, one girl after having laid eyes on me, was seemingly magnetically attached to the sight of me. She didn’t move at all, but if I was in sight, she was staring right at me. I can’t stress how closely she stared. I felt like I was being followed by some sort of military auto turret. Anyways. That’s all I have to say about that night, no one gave me shit, in case anyone is worried about aggression from guys, but that could also be due to who I knew there. Right, so moving on. Today I went to the mall on my way back from a lacrosse game this morning. This morning, I woke up, didn’t eat, went straight to the game. Played for 2 hours straight, then on my ride home I decide to eat at the mall. The Instant Jerk was in my car from the week before, so I figure why the hell not. I sprayed about 1-2 sprays neck/chest area, then spent about 15 min to park and finally went inside. Nothing really happened until I was finishing up lunch. Two mothers and their kids are walking past my booth, then suddenly, the group stops. When I look up at them to see why they’re stopping next to me, I see that one mother was fishing something out her purse, the other is staring right at me. Looks me up and down, turns away, then immediately turns back and stares at me again. This continues the whole time they are walking away. I could think of nothing else to do but watch her stare and think woah. Soooo..those are my experiences so far. At first I was a little apprehensive to try it since it was supposed to be so in your face. It’s really not that bad, I found it to be manageable. I don’t know if any other pheros are in Instant Jerk, but I’m now considering trying the TUTH sample that you guys graciously gave me to see how it might differ from Instant Jerk. Oh man, one thing to note, I’m assuming that the strange smell is the couplins and not the none, right? Man. Watch out for this one, I got used to it, but every now and then I can smell it. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2007, 1:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-ideal-for-college-guys/2474/16 "2007-03-19T01:40:04Z")
wow. great post. some people can wear strong stuff and not turn at the site of a full moon… im not thinking many though 😃 TUTH i understand has some nice additives in it, i think i would have enjoyed mine more if i had started out with a low dose,but live and learn 😉 its getting alot of attention lately,and since you rocked the jerk,i’ll bet you will rock the TUTH. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![The\_GQ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@The\_GQ](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_GQ)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2007, 2:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-ideal-for-college-guys/2474/17 "2007-03-19T02:40:18Z")
Excellent thread! This pheromone in particular is one that I’ve read no reports/stories about and Phya’s report is the first I’ve ever read. Thank you! and thank you everyone for the informative replies. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2007, 5:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-ideal-for-college-guys/2474/18 "2007-03-19T17:47:38Z")
Thanks guys, yea, I’ve had fun with [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/). I guess maybe I’m just a jerk at heart..sorry girls, no knight in shining armor anymore. Heh, well I dunno, I have to go the airport soon, but I dropped by this morning to let y’all know that I will be using IJ more often. I’ll see what it ends up developing into. I’m thinking that since we should act congruent to our phero sig, I should be very direct, and assertive, yea? I’m usually off bullshittin at parties with my friends. One of these nights I’ll help the cause and spend some actual time talking with girls. I figure the best place to start is…well, for one, I should actually talk to those auto turrets..heh. Except moms. I’ll stick to my age group for now. ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2007, 5:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-ideal-for-college-guys/2474/19 "2007-03-19T17:50:54Z")
Oh, I forgot to ask. So is it correct that [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) = heavy none + couplins + complementaries and TUTH = none + complementaries? Complementaries being the small amount of secondary pheromones included in certain phero products. If so, can anyone elaborate on how Instant Jerk and TUTH are different? Aside from the couplins that is. ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2007, 6:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-ideal-for-college-guys/2474/20 "2007-03-19T18:25:41Z")
> [@Phya](#): > > Oh, I forgot to ask. So is it correct that Instant Jerk = heavy none + couplins + complementaries and Turn Up The Heat = none + complementaries? > > Complementaries being the small amount of secondary pheromones included in certain phero products. > > If so, can anyone elaborate on how Instant Jerk and Turn Up The Heat are different? Aside from the couplins that is. [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) has 12.5 mcg/spray of -none. Instant Jerk has modifiers to make the wearer behave more in character, brash, outspoken etc. TUTH has 2.5 mcg/spray of -none. TUTH has modifiers to give it a more sexual vibe. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-ideal-for-college-guys/2474.md?page=2)