# Instant Jerk Underated? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 7, 2009, 5:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-underated/189906 "2009-08-07T17:47:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![henk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/henk/32/5189_2.png) [@henk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/henk)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2011, 11:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-underated/189906/41 "2011-11-02T23:27:00Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > I gotta disagree. I see a lot of very hot older women all the time. And I think some time spent with an older woman would do most young guys a lot of good. I totaly agree with Radman. IJ is also a perfect phero for a workout. Or a one night stand with an hot older woman. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 2:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-underated/189906/42 "2012-01-03T14:24:43Z")
IJ is my hands down favorite ā€œstockā€ pheromone mix for causing sex to happen. And I have figured out that itā€™s not just older women who like it. Itā€™s women of all ages, but they need to have the right physiology. To attract younger women, 1 spray. To attract black or especially Hispanic women, 4 sprays. (They will damned near rape you sometimes with that dose on.) To attract Caucasian cougars, 2-3 sprays. These are rules of thumb, according to my many days of using this product, and many successful results. If I could have only one pheromone mix from Androticsā€¦ [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/). In fact I have shrunk my entire arsenal down to just three products: Instant Jerk, A314 and reagent grade androstedienone. Those three things cover me for causing sufficient sexual arousal in 97% of situations I find myself in, and IJ by itself accounts for a full 75% of them. I wear it by itself in almost all cases. Mixing it with IO or IS very much kills it, because the effects come from the rawness and sexual threat, which other things remove. In fact, the only time I can wear it with a ā€œsoftenerā€ is when itā€™s androstedienone, and then only if the target female responds by relaxing enough to respond to latent sexual arousal. Otherwise, it kills the threat/tension, and nothing happens. Wanna get laid? Master the Jerk. ---
**Author:** ![okyoureabeast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/okyoureabeast/32/1395_2.png) [@okyoureabeast](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/okyoureabeast)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 3:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-underated/189906/43 "2012-01-03T15:07:47Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > IJ is my hands down favorite ā€œstockā€ pheromone mix for causing sex to happen. And I have figured out that itā€™s not just older women who like it. Itā€™s women of all ages, but they need to have the right physiology. > > To attract younger women, 1 spray. To attract black or especially Hispanic women, 4 sprays. (They will damned near rape you sometimes with that dose on.) To attract Caucasian cougars, 2-3 sprays. These are rules of thumb, according to my many days of using this product, and many successful results. > > If I could have only one pheromone mix from Androticsā€¦ Instant Jerk. In fact I have shrunk my entire arsenal down to just three products: Instant Jerk, A314 and reagent grade androstedienone. Those three things cover me for causing sufficient sexual arousal in 97% of situations I find myself in, and IJ by itself accounts for a full 75% of them. > > I wear it by itself in almost all cases. Mixing it with IO or IS very much kills it, because the effects come from the rawness and sexual threat, which other things remove. In fact, the only time I can wear it with a ā€œsoftenerā€ is when itā€™s androstedienone, and then only if the target female responds by relaxing enough to respond to latent sexual arousal. Otherwise, it kills the threat/tension, and nothing happens. > > Wanna get laid? Master the Jerk. Catlord, Have you tried a314 and instant jerk together on a night out? Iā€™ve found great respect hits with a314 at work and from other people during the day time with IJ. Iā€™m almost curious to mix the two and hit the bars. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 5:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-underated/189906/44 "2012-01-03T17:49:14Z")
> [@okyoureabeast](#): > > Catlord, > > Have you tried a314 and instant jerk together on a night out? Iā€™ve found great respect hits with a314 at work and from other people during the day time with IJ. > > Iā€™m almost curious to mix the two and hit the bars. Sure. It produces a very masculine, almost dark and dangerous effect. Get the ratio right, and you will have whatever you want handed to you on a silver platter. But in my experience, itā€™s just too much for most women. It intimidates the hell out of them. I usually get the best results with 3 drops A314/4 sprays IJ. Itā€™s like youā€™re a man-god (or at least a major authority figure) wearing that. Black women especially LOVE it. You get special treatment, lines seem to disappear, and so does red tape. But it takes a seriously strong woman to handle that level of masculine power. Smaller doses may work better for other people, but thatā€™s what worked for me. I found it was too ā€œdarkā€ for my tastes. I still use it, from time to time, when the calculator tells me thatā€™s the best betā€¦ but usually IJ alone or A314 alone is what gets the green light. ---
**Author:** ![okyoureabeast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/okyoureabeast/32/1395_2.png) [@okyoureabeast](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/okyoureabeast)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 5:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-underated/189906/45 "2012-01-03T17:59:38Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > Sure. It produces a very masculine, almost dark and dangerous effect. Get the ratio right, and you will have whatever you want handed to you on a silver platter. But in my experience, itā€™s just too much for most women. It intimidates the hell out of them. I usually get the best results with 3 drops A314/4 sprays IJ. Itā€™s like youā€™re a man-god (or at least a major authority figure) wearing that. Black women especially LOVE it. You get special treatment, lines seem to disappear, and so does red tape. But it takes a seriously strong woman to handle that level of masculine power. > > Smaller doses may work better for other people, but thatā€™s what worked for me. I found it was too ā€œdarkā€ for my tastes. I still use it, from time to time, when the calculator tells me thatā€™s the best betā€¦ but usually IJ alone or A314 alone is what gets the green light. Do you think mixing any social mones into this mix would help soften this mix? Iā€™m going to give this a go at my first college party with some socials mixed in just for the heck. Itā€™s christmas break still so iā€™m SOL at the moment for any major testing. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 6:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-underated/189906/46 "2012-01-03T18:32:10Z")
> [@okyoureabeast](#): > > Iā€™m almost curious to mix the two and hit the bars. Bars, clubs and parties are the best place for this mix IME. It is not one to wear to work/college because it will get peopleā€™s backs-up and you will have limited opportunity for proper congruency. Unless you are a professional wrestler, boxer, bouncer, sergeant or in some line/environment that requires particularly strong assertive and dominant traits. When I take this out I usually use two sprays IJ and four or five drops A314. Effects are usually incendiary and you need rock-solid congruency to back it up. > [@okyoureabeast](#): > > Do you think mixing any social mones into this mix would help soften this mix? Donā€™t bother trying to steer/moderate it with anything other than A1 or TAC (which I use mainly for its complementary sexual effects) as it will only work against you. IO simply weakens the mix and you need a lot of IS (crash-level quantities) to see any effect at all and IMO it is not particularly beneficial. Also be aware that this mix will repel far more people than it attracts but when it does work, it will be remarkable! šŸ˜ƒ Iā€™ll also say that you need to be ready for anything - About half the times I take this one out, I end-up having to deal with some aggressive behaviour from other guys - most usually acting-up/trying to start fights. So far Iā€™ve found that politely but firmly squaring right back at them will have them back-down sharpish. Remember that the signal you sending will have them assume you are fully able to back yourself-up. This can also prove very impressive/attractive to any woman you are with! šŸ˜‰ However, my favourite use for IJ is when I have a woman staying the night. If I wake in the night or before her, Iā€™ll put-on one spray and go back to bed. Its usually not long before she is crawling all over me in her sleep and when she wakes, she is liable to be very very horny! šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 6:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-underated/189906/47 "2012-01-03T18:44:47Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Bars, clubs and parties are the best place for this mix IME. It is not one to wear to work/college because it will get peopleā€™s backs-up and you will have limited opportunity for proper congruency. Unless you are a professional wrestler, boxer, bouncer, sergeant or in some line/environment that requires particularly strong assertive and dominant traits. > > When I take this out I usually use two sprays IJ and four or five drops A314. Effects are usually incendiary and you need rock-solid congruency to back it up. > > Donā€™t bother trying to steer/moderate it with anything other than A1 or TAC (which I use mainly for its complementary sexual effects) as it will only work against you. IO simply weakens the mix and you need a lot of IS (crash-level quantities) to see any effect at all and IMO it is not particularly beneficial. > > Also be aware that this mix will repel far more people than it attracts but when it does work, it will be remarkable! šŸ˜ƒ > > Iā€™ll also say that you need to be ready for anything - About half the times I take this one out, I end-up having to deal with some aggressive behaviour from other guys - most usually acting-up/trying to start fights. So far Iā€™ve found that politely but firmly squaring right back at them will have them back-down sharpish. Remember that the signal you sending will have them assume you are fully able to back yourself-up. This can also prove very impressive/attractive to any woman you are with! šŸ˜‰ > > However, my favourite use for IJ is when I have a woman staying the night. If I wake in the night or before her, Iā€™ll put-on one spray and go back to bed. Its usually not long before she is crawling all over me in her sleep and when she wakes, she is liable to be very very horny! šŸ™‚ I agree with everything youā€™ve said here. I donā€™t use the ratio balance you do, but that sounds interesting to try. Probably much less dark and dangerous than what I am using. ---
**Author:** ![okyoureabeast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/okyoureabeast/32/1395_2.png) [@okyoureabeast](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/okyoureabeast)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 6:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-underated/189906/48 "2012-01-03T18:45:15Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Bars, clubs and parties are the best place for this mix IME. It is not one to wear to work/college because it will get peopleā€™s backs-up and you will have limited opportunity for proper congruency. Unless you are a professional wrestler, boxer, bouncer, sergeant or in some line/environment that requires particularly strong assertive and dominant traits. > > When I take this out I usually use two sprays IJ and four or five drops A314. Effects are usually incendiary and you need rock-solid congruency to back it up. > > Donā€™t bother trying to steer/moderate it with anything other than A1 or TAC (which I use mainly for its complementary sexual effects) as it will only work against you. IO simply weakens the mix and you need a lot of IS (crash-level quantities) to see any effect at all and IMO it is not particularly beneficial. > > Also be aware that this mix will repel far more people than it attracts but when it does work, it will be remarkable! šŸ˜ƒ > > Iā€™ll also say that you need to be ready for anything - About half the times I take this one out, I end-up having to deal with some aggressive behaviour from other guys - most usually acting-up/trying to start fights. So far Iā€™ve found that politely but firmly squaring right back at them will have them back-down sharpish. Remember that the signal you sending will have them assume you are fully able to back yourself-up. This can also prove very impressive/attractive to any woman you are with! šŸ˜‰ > > However, my favourite use for IJ is when I have a woman staying the night. If I wake in the night or before her, Iā€™ll put-on one spray and go back to bed. Its usually not long before she is crawling all over me in her sleep and when she wakes, she is liable to be very very horny! šŸ™‚ Iā€™ve discovered that effect with instant jerk with my girlfriend. Gave two sprays before I picked her up and I found that out the fun way. Iā€™ve done a lot of reading on the forums and Iā€™m a bit apprehensive to wear it because I have no desire to get into a fight with anyone. I find instant jerk calms me down and gives me a bit of a controlled vibe similar to a314. Although, being in central New York Iā€™ve noticed that most men tend to give me a lot of respect wearing a314 so Iā€™m curious what the effect will be with instant jerk. Being that I wore it into a bar that Iā€™m generally not well liked there (small town bar = small town gossip). Needless to say I found that most of the men give me a raised eye brow look, bar tenders served me quickly, and above all had a nice amount of space around me. These self effects make me feel like iron man with a barrier against social anxiety. Itā€™s been stellar facing all of these people with a sly grin on my face. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 6:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-underated/189906/49 "2012-01-03T18:50:52Z")
No matter how much IJ I wear, I have never had any male aggression in response. (Knock on wood.) It will make a difference where you hang out. I tend to prefer places where brawling is considered uncouth. Bars? Clubs? Not so much. Itā€™s commonly ā€œanything goesā€ there. Very much a zoo. Donā€™t use socials with IJ or A314 if you want full impact. Only use A1 with them if you know she will respond by expressing latent arousal, instead of losing interest because the sexual tension she needs is gone. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 10:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-underated/189906/50 "2012-02-29T10:18:11Z")
Ran in here thinking the Cat was back in action and posting! It appears that I was WRONG. Catty, I know youā€™re out there somewhere. And if by chance you see this message in a bottle, would you tell me if you were using TO-GO or 30mil bottles of THE JERK? In the Catā€™s honor, Iā€™m gonna wear the 3 drops (maybe just 2 to keep it lite) of A314 and 4 sprays of THE JERK on Saturday when I visit one of my favorite restaurants to watch Carolina -vs- Duke while I chew on something yummy! Stay tuned! Thankā€™ya! šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 10:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-underated/189906/51 "2012-02-29T10:45:34Z")
> [@M&M](#): > > In the Catā€™s honor, Iā€™m gonna wear the 3 drops (maybe just 2 to keep it lite) of A314 and 4 sprays of THE JERK on Saturday when I visit one of my favorite restaurants to watch Carolina -vs- Duke while I chew on something yummy! Stay tuned! > > Thankā€™ya! šŸ˜‰ Updates are expected! šŸ˜›šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 4:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-underated/189906/52 "2012-02-29T16:19:06Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Updates are expected! šŸ˜› šŸ˜ƒ Not to worry, Mobo ā€¦ Iā€™ll type in an update when time permits. Just so no one gets their boxers or briefs or thongs or boy shorts all up in a bunch ā€¦ I will be sitting and eating and watching the game from the bar. IF I get my favorite seat, thereā€™s a draft that carries my scent of YUM across the room in front of me, which in the past, has caused a lot of eyes to seek out this moutain man of chocolate. I will NOT be out trying to get laid. This is all business ā€¦ FOOD and the GAME only. So, there wonā€™t be no panty throwing or catching on Saturday. Am I clear??? šŸ˜ƒ With that being said ā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 4:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-underated/189906/53 "2012-02-29T16:33:29Z")
> [@M&M](#): > > With that being said ā€¦ Mmm-Hmm! šŸ˜› IJ does have a habit of bringing it all to you - Good or bad! šŸ˜®šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![DBCooper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c77e96/32.png) [@DBCooper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DBCooper)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 2:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-underated/189906/54 "2012-03-01T02:04:49Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Mmm-Hmm! šŸ˜› > > IJ does have a habit of bringing it all to you - Good or bad! šŸ˜®šŸ˜ƒ I love [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/). For one from my trials I believe it makes the task of girls opening/approaching you easier. You have to be ever mindful of loud and agressive males turning on you - bars may not be ideal. Try barmaids and video store chicks. And the gym; do some light work. Add P83 and you get some mad stares. If I ever have the money to get my hands on some more Iā€™ll tell you what else. I am quite sorry for you I donā€™t know how to find my journal. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 11:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-underated/189906/55 "2012-03-03T23:25:59Z")
Well, as expected with me sitting at the bar enjoying the game, the night with 4 sprays of IJ and 2 drops of A314 was UNeventful. There is nothing to report. ā˜¹ Will have to give this another test run. Good night world! How much of IJ and [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) do you play with, DB? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![SocialNinja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SocialNinja](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SocialNinja)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 9:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-underated/189906/56 "2012-05-08T09:53:28Z")
absolutely underrated.. mix it with honesty and you are social gold. men trust you like an older brother or hero or something and women damn near wet their pants. plus those two mixed together smell really sweet for some reason. ---
**Author:** ![stld82](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@stld82](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stld82)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 10:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-underated/189906/57 "2012-05-08T10:13:45Z")
Have you guys tried IJ with p96? Ive had some good nights with that mix. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 10:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-underated/189906/58 "2012-05-08T10:31:02Z")
P96 has been a bit thin on the ground for a while now. Which is a pity as Iā€™ve had good results with it and other sexuals. ā˜¹ ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 8:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-underated/189906/59 "2012-05-10T20:08:03Z")
> [@SocialNinja](#): > > absolutely underrated.. **mix it with honesty** and you are social gold. > > men trust you like an older brother or hero or something and women damn near wet their pants. plus those two mixed together smell really sweet for some reason. > [@stld82](#): > > Have you guys tried **IJ with P96**? Ive had some good nights with that mix. Do you two remember your ratios? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![SocialNinja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SocialNinja](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SocialNinja)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 8:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-underated/189906/60 "2012-05-10T20:32:23Z")
i am fairly certain I did one spray to my chest of IJ and two sprays about 5-10 minutes later of IH. It had a very sweet smell. I went to do my laundry and had a girl smiling at me huge. Women were staring and smiling and guys either wouldnā€™t look at me or when i walked across the street to get some food they very respectful like I was an older brother. The smell was also very pleasant and mixed really well with my body scent where IJ by itself is almost ā€œspicyā€ when I smell it.. The IH toned it and made it sweet. I havent tried it again. But I plan to this weekend. Anyone else try IJ and IH? [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-underated/189906.md?page=2) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-underated/189906.md?page=4)