# Instant Openess or Come Talk To Me

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-openess-or-come-talk-to-me/4179>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [June 17, 2007, 10:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-openess-or-come-talk-to-me/4179 "2007-06-17T22:29:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![pheronewbie315](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheronewbie315/32/1440_2.png) [@pheronewbie315](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pheronewbie315)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2007, 4:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-openess-or-come-talk-to-me/4179/21 "2007-09-03T16:44:39Z")

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i have 2x instant openness, i was wondering what’s the max amount of sprays anyone has used of this?

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2007, 7:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-openess-or-come-talk-to-me/4179/22 "2007-09-03T19:43:01Z")

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Yep Matrix, they’re similar but differ in nuance. And [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) influence is all about nuance and suggestion. I haven’t noticed as lofty effects as M. Harris describes but he points in the right direction. Nevertheless, the main variable is not beta or alpha androstenol, but the personality and intellect of you and your target. Not everyone is capable of deep thoughts or conversation, so don’t expect beta Androstenol to turn an airhead into a philosopher. Nor will a used car salesman tell only the truth, and nothing but the truth. But beta Androstenol certainly does seem encourage more confessions. Incidentally, although alpha tends towards motormouth in high doses, I’ve also gotten some pretty dad burn fine confessions of personal stuff you don’t normally hear, so there is plenty of overlap.

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**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2007, 8:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-openess-or-come-talk-to-me/4179/23 "2007-09-03T20:05:50Z")

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> [@pheronewbie315](#):
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> i have 2x instant openness, i was wondering what’s the max amount of sprays anyone has used of this?

I have the 1X version. Don’t really use IOpen anymore as I think I already have a “natural” tendency to spark conversation, and with IO applied it got to where I wished people would just “_shut up already!_” real quickly. I usually applied from 1 to 3 sprays (that would be only about 1 spray of 2X). Individual results may vary depending on your own body chemistry and personality. I have not had the nerve or patience to try “OD” amounts of IOpen, which for me may not be much.

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**Author:** ![Matrixzer0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@Matrixzer0](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Matrixzer0)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2007, 12:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-openess-or-come-talk-to-me/4179/24 "2007-09-04T00:16:34Z")

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> [@Gegogi](#):
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> Yep Matrix, they’re similar but differ in nuance. And pheromone influence is all about nuance and suggestion. I haven’t noticed as lofty effects as M. Harris describes but he points in the right direction. Nevertheless, the main variable is not beta or alpha androstenol, but the personality and intellect of you and your target. Not everyone is capable of deep thoughts or conversation, so don’t expect beta Androstenol to turn an airhead into a philosopher. Nor will a used car salesman tell only the truth, and nothing but the truth. But beta Androstenol certainly does seem encourage more confessions. Incidentally, although alpha tends towards motormouth in high doses, I’ve also gotten some pretty dad burn fine confessions of personal stuff you don’t normally hear, so there is plenty of overlap.

Thanks Gegogi. So basically it doesn’t matter but beta is a little bit more stronger for deep thinking and confessions. Cool.

Why cannot answers to questions be simply answered like Gegogi’s answer. Instead of a lot of fluff talk.

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