# Instant Openness + Instant Honesty = Come talk to me Mix 2? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 8, 2007, 10:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-openness-instant-honesty-come-talk-to-me-mix-2/3563 "2007-05-08T22:41:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RedFrame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@RedFrame](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RedFrame)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 10:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-openness-instant-honesty-come-talk-to-me-mix-2/3563/1 "2007-05-08T22:41:24Z")
Hi Since i have all three of them, just wondering , 1 spray of each IO and IH = 2 sprays of CTTM2? Since the alpha and beta ratio for CTTM is 1:1. So, which is better ? Does CTTM2 has any special ingredient? Cheers RedFrame ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 3:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-openness-instant-honesty-come-talk-to-me-mix-2/3563/2 "2007-05-09T03:08:55Z")
I think it’s the other way around. I believe CTTM2 is 50/50 alpha/beta nol. IO and IH mixed together should give equal proportions of alpha and beta, with some other bits of tweaking [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) also. The IO + IH would be the more complex mix. I have all 3. I think I could get by without the CTTM2. ---
**Author:** ![capone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/capone/32/587_2.png) [@capone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/capone)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 7:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-openness-instant-honesty-come-talk-to-me-mix-2/3563/3 "2007-06-07T19:11:55Z")
GWTW, in your opinion do you think you get better results from mixing [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) + Instant Honesty than using directly CTTM2? Thank you ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 9:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-openness-instant-honesty-come-talk-to-me-mix-2/3563/4 "2007-06-07T21:40:33Z")
[Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) has a little bit of betanol and along with a number of ‘steering’ pheromones. Likewise Instant Honesty has a bit of alphanol with a number of ‘steering’ pheromones as well. A mix of Instant Openness + Instant Honesty would have the same general effect as CTTM2, though a little bit more ‘muddy’ because of the presense of the steering pheromones. ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 11:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-openness-instant-honesty-come-talk-to-me-mix-2/3563/5 "2007-06-07T23:48:52Z")
> [@capone](#): > > GWTW, in your opinion do you think you get better results from mixing Instant Openness + Instant Honesty than using directly Come Talk To Me Mix 2? > > Thank you I don’t notice a lot of difference. ---
**Author:** ![capone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/capone/32/587_2.png) [@capone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/capone)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 12:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-openness-instant-honesty-come-talk-to-me-mix-2/3563/6 "2007-06-08T00:26:44Z")
Jasmin said in other thread CTTM2 was an older product and not very refined with steering things so results may be tougher, oficially it’s said that CTTM2 is a little more for attraction than IO+IH