# instant openness price **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 23, 2013, 6:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-openness-price/59403 "2013-06-23T06:46:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![onthornsilay](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/onthornsilay/32/1427_2.png) [@onthornsilay](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/onthornsilay)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2013, 6:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-openness-price/59403/1 "2013-06-23T06:46:39Z")
how come instant openess cost alot more money than the other soical mones? ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2013, 7:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-openness-price/59403/2 "2013-06-23T07:28:49Z")
> [@onthornsilay](#): > > how come instant openess cost alot more money than the other soical mones? Your guess is as good as ours. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2013, 8:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-openness-price/59403/3 "2013-06-23T08:02:41Z")
The official line is in a sticky in Store but yes, your guess is as good as any other. ---
**Author:** ![ryanmercer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ryanmercer/32/1569_2.png) [@ryanmercer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ryanmercer)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2013, 3:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-openness-price/59403/4 "2013-06-23T15:57:21Z")
Because it’s flippin awesome heh. ---
**Author:** ![spamz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/48db29/32.png) [@spamz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/spamz)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2013, 10:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-openness-price/59403/5 "2013-06-27T22:37:06Z")
ehhh, not that awsome to jack up the price to over double… it used to be like 30 or 40 bucks, and instant honesty used to be 50 i think… my guess is they know some “newb” will buy it cause they will figure hey, if its expensive, it must be good… ---
**Author:** ![Mysterion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mysterion/32/986_2.png) [@Mysterion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mysterion)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2013, 11:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-openness-price/59403/6 "2013-06-27T23:55:30Z")
> [@spamz](#): > > ehhh, not that awsome to jack up the price to over double… it used to be like 30 or 40 bucks, and instant honesty used to be 50 i think… my guess is they know some “newb” will buy it cause they will figure hey, if its expensive, it must be good… Exactly. You can just buy the “ingredients” and mix a bottle yourself. All that for just a few bucks. They squeeze money out of new customers. ---
**Author:** ![andromun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/andromun/32/365_2.png) [@andromun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andromun)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 10:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-openness-price/59403/7 "2013-06-28T10:46:01Z")
I have to agree, sucks that it costs that much. I remember a long time ago I decided to add IO onto my wish list and when I came back is was $120…oh well. ---
**Author:** ![XyzN](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xyzn/32/2416_2.png) [@XyzN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XyzN)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 2:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-openness-price/59403/8 "2013-06-28T14:17:17Z")
Found a quote on it from John: > [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > IH(/IO) is THAT good. > > Prices are adjusting to how much our raw materials costs are… > > We’re using American or European synthesized, academic research grade stuff, compounding and shipping from offices in the USA. Everyone gets a fair wage, no animals were hurt in the making of this top shelf pheromone company. > **[PheromoneTalk](https://pheromonetalk.com/pheromones-450290-post8.html)** > > Everything about using pheromones to enhance your social life Also a question, if I were to mix my own ratios of IH/IO, with nol and beta nol, wouldn’t it be even more expensive than buying straight IO/IH? to-go size of nol cost ~28$ for 12.5mcg, same with beta nol. I’d dilute beta, but still end up spending ~56$ making a to-go homebrewed version of IO…I guess they no longer make 30ml bottles for nols anymore? ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 10:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-openness-price/59403/9 "2013-06-28T22:46:53Z")
> [@XyzN](#): > > Found a quote on it from John: > > [http://www.pheromonetalk.com/pheromones-450290-post8.html](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/pheromones-450290-post8.html) > > Also a question, if I were to mix my own ratios of IH/IO, with nol and beta nol, wouldn’t it be even more expensive than buying straight IO/IH? to-go size of nol cost ~28$ for 12.5mcg, same with beta nol. I’d dilute beta, but still end up spending ~56$ making a to-go homebrewed version of IO…I guess they no longer make 30ml bottles for nols anymore? That’s why you buy your nols somewhere else.