# Instant Openness vs. CTTM2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 9, 2007, 3:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-openness-vs-cttm2/3016 "2007-04-09T15:36:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Godhand](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/godhand/32/2378_2.png) [@Godhand](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Godhand)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 3:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-openness-vs-cttm2/3016/1 "2007-04-09T15:36:44Z")
I’m thinking about expanding my selection of pheromones. I was wondering which is better between [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and Come Talk To Me 2? I haven’t owned either product, but descriptions of both sound similar. Has anybody on here used both of them? I’m thinking about adding one of them to my current mix to see what happens. ---
**Author:** ![countesszero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/countesszero/32/1392_2.png) [@countesszero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/countesszero)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 3:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-openness-vs-cttm2/3016/2 "2007-04-09T15:50:11Z")
I swear by Instant Oppenness. It was the first product I bought from here and it worked the first time I sprayed it on.Come Talk To Me Mix 2 made me weepy. But of course I’m a woman. I’d go with [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) you wont regret it. ---
**Author:** ![altainta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9f8e36/32.png) [@altainta](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/altainta)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 3:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-openness-vs-cttm2/3016/3 "2007-04-09T15:50:27Z")
Refer this thread it will help u [Link](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-instant-openness-come-talk-to-me-mix-2/427) ---
**Author:** ![SBS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@SBS](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SBS)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 4:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-openness-vs-cttm2/3016/4 "2007-04-09T16:47:26Z")
> [@countesszero](#): > > I swear by Instant Oppenness. It was the first product I bought from here and it worked the first time I sprayed it on.Come Talk To Me Mix 2 made me weepy. But of course I’m a woman. I’d go with Instant Openness you wont regret it. I agree with the countess. I own both and have seen more consistant results with [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/). I find that CTTM2 is better for mixes, where IO shines on its own. ---
**Author:** ![Godhand](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/godhand/32/2378_2.png) [@Godhand](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Godhand)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 5:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-openness-vs-cttm2/3016/5 "2007-04-09T17:24:11Z")
> [@altainta](#): > > Refer this thread it will help u > [Link](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-instant-openness-come-talk-to-me-mix-2/427) Thanks for the link. If they are both mostly -nols then I think that it might be redundant, since I’m already using Spaceland. Maybe I should get some putatives. Any suggestions? ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2007, 11:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-openness-vs-cttm2/3016/6 "2007-04-14T23:59:31Z")
If I recall Openness is almost all alpha-nol, and CTTM is a mix of alpha and beta (and maybe something else). Haven’t tried CTTM, but I’m pretty sure it was the IOpenness that almost made me want to shout “shut up already” a few times I’ve tried it. Some seem to think that the beta-nol [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) may be the more “powerful” of the -nols for “depth” and “making connections/bonding.” ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 2:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-openness-vs-cttm2/3016/7 "2007-04-15T02:39:45Z")
I’ve been using a roll-your-own mix of 50/50 of chemset alpha and beta Androstenol for the past 6 months (mixed with Burberry Weekend). I found I liked the results better than straight alpha only or beta Androstenol only. When I found this forum a couple months ago I was surprised to find a similar mix is a commercial product, CTTM. So I order a bottle. I’m planning to test it out the next couple week during counseling sessions with students. Although the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) are the same, I’m wondering if there will be an observable difference in reactions (due to increased/decreased product quality?). I’ve counseled many of the same students while wearing my original concoction, so I sorta have a base of comparison. The only negative thing about CTTM is the smell. It has a terrible sour scent somewhat like fermented oranges. You’ll really want to cover it with a good cologne.