# Instant Rockstar **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 17, 2011, 2:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-rockstar/50348 "2011-05-17T02:32:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2011, 7:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-rockstar/50348/21 "2011-05-21T19:59:38Z")
> [@Johnny\_Gslinger](#): > > Yup 5 > > [Research Oriented Pheromones Description + Product Value / Ingredient Guide](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/research-oriented-pheromones-description-product-value-ingredient-guide/42557) > > Cops are no longer in the formula for IJ though, although if anyone is looking for IJ with cops I think happytappin was selling some on the market (if he hasn’t sold it by now) Yeah I did sell it already…sorry guys. I had 8 full droppers of cops in it like Steve had…was just a bit much. What I did now was just bought EOW and added 3 drops to regular cologne bottle. ---
**Author:** ![Fade1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fade1/32/1949_2.png) [@Fade1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Fade1)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 11:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-rockstar/50348/22 "2011-05-22T11:00:44Z")
That’s a lot of androstenone. Let us know if you get into any fights. This thread has highlighted to me the massive differences in 'none levels between TUTH and IJ. 2.5mcg in TUTH and around 12.5 in IJ! I found 2 shots of IJ to make me irritable and cause aggression in myself and others, even with a heavy cover of IG. If you want to tone down the 'none but still keep the IJ rather than TUTH, you could swap out ammo for A314 + IH as well as use less IJ. That would probably work for younger people like myself. ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 2:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-rockstar/50348/23 "2011-05-22T14:00:42Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > I will say dont look for IOI but for behavior changes in people. > > Tisha This is spot on. ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 2:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-rockstar/50348/24 "2011-05-22T14:02:53Z")
> [@Fade1](#): > > That’s a lot of androstenone. > Let us know if you get into any fights. > > This thread has highlighted to me the massive differences in 'none levels between TUTH and IJ. 2.5mcg in TUTH and around 12.5 in IJ! > > I found 2 shots of IJ to make me irritable and cause aggression in myself and others, even with a heavy cover of IG. > > If you want to tone down the 'none but still keep the IJ rather than TUTH, you could swap out ammo for A314 + IH as well as use less IJ. That would probably work for younger people like myself. At the age of 44 I have found I can’t really go above 1 spray of IJ, 1 is just right. With more I’m ok until I get agitated and then I derail from there and it can get ugly. ---
**Author:** ![ocd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e19b73/32.png) [@ocd](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ocd)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 12:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-rockstar/50348/25 "2011-05-23T00:50:49Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > Application points please… IJ back of the neck AMMO on the wrists IS directly into hair ---
**Author:** ![ocd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e19b73/32.png) [@ocd](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ocd)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 12:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-rockstar/50348/26 "2011-05-23T00:51:58Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > So that’s 3 **DROPS** of IJ, 2 DROPS of AMMO, and 2 DROPS of IS, not sprays? ☹ All sprays… ---
**Author:** ![ocd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e19b73/32.png) [@ocd](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ocd)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 12:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-rockstar/50348/27 "2011-05-23T00:53:27Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > Also is the ammo single strength or double strength in your particular mix? > > dsouza AMMO is single strength ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 4:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-rockstar/50348/28 "2011-05-23T04:00:47Z")
> [@ocd](#): > > All sprays… > [@ocd](#): > > I used the term rockstar not in a literal sense, just to describe the feeling. > > I have tried IJ @ **1-4 drops** and found **my sweet spot at 3 drops**. At 4 drops I start to get aggitation. So this was an experiment with drops, and not the actual mix of 3 x [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/), 2 x AMMO, 2 x IS (4X), which are all **sprays** , not drops? Thanks ---
**Author:** ![ocd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e19b73/32.png) [@ocd](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ocd)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 4:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-rockstar/50348/29 "2011-05-23T04:25:59Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > So this was an experiment with drops, and not the actual mix of 3 x Instant Jerk, 2 x AMMO, 2 x IS (4X), which are all **sprays** , not drops? > > Thanks My mistake M&M. It was a typo at my part. I meant sprays not drops 😉 ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 4:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-rockstar/50348/30 "2011-05-23T04:26:02Z")
> [@ocd](#): > > IJ back of the neck > > AMMO on the wrists > > IS directly into hair I’ve always been curious about mones on the hair. I wear pomade in my hair to keep it slick and shiny and I wonder how mones combine with this? Is it ok to spray mones over hair pomade or hair gels? I like your idea of ammo to the wrists never thought of that. Its summer here in Toronto Canada and its a great time for tshirts so the wrists are definitely an option. I’ll try it out tomorrow at a barbecue and let you guys know how it goes. Anything more than 1 spray of jerk is a problem for me. I will do 1 double strength spray of ammo to the wrists, 1 spray jerk to back of neck, 4 sprays double strength instant shine to hair. Just glad I’m not balding for this experiment 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ocd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e19b73/32.png) [@ocd](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ocd)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 4:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-rockstar/50348/31 "2011-05-23T04:42:36Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > I’ve always been curious about mones on the hair. I wear pomade in my hair to keep it slick and shiny and I wonder how mones combine with this? > > Is it ok to spray mones over hair pomade or hair gels? > > I like your idea of ammo to the wrists never thought of that. Its summer here in Toronto Canada and its a great time for tshirts so the wrists are definitely an option. > > I’ll try it out tomorrow at a barbecue and let you guys know how it goes. > > Anything more than 1 spray of jerk is a problem for me. I will do 1 double strength spray of ammo to the wrists, 1 spray jerk to back of neck, 4 sprays double spray instant shine to hair. > > Just glad I’m not balding 😃 I always apply shine after I put the gel in my hair. Never had a problem with diffusion. Good luck on the BBQ. Do tell us how it went? ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 9:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-rockstar/50348/32 "2011-05-23T09:28:06Z")
> [@ocd](#): > > The clubs that I go to are mostly white women but I have seen hits from women of all races during daytime though. Age range has been from 20-35. I have gotten a few phone numbers but yet to have a ONS. Last week looked the best as I was getting hot’n’heavy with this girl and I was sure I was going to pull her but her friends didn’t worked out with my mates so I guess I live to fight another day… Hot and heavy meaning you were making out with her or just verbalizing sexual talk? The reason I ask is that it seems that IJ vibe is more of a “centre of attraction spectacle” vibe than a vibe that tells women I want you physically or more. It’s great for a rockstar mix indeed but I think unless one has the body it’s going to steer women’s thoughts to thinking one is a happy, sexy, jerk and doesn’t care about her and most women will not want to invest in sex with a man like that unless he has an awesome body for ONS. Are you looking for just attraction, friendship, and being the center of attention (like a rockstar mix) or actually scoring with women? Just curious because you define you mix as a rockstar mix which is exactly what it is but rockstars get laid because they are actually rockstars. They create and perform music that turns women on, have good bods, and know how to melt women. Most are also surrounded by women groupies (fame). Just because rock stars score doesn’t mean this mix will make an average man score without the attributes I mentioned above. The mix alone will just create curiosity and drama. Any thoughts? Are you in great shape? Do you think you could score sex without any mones at all? Just curious because it looks like that is what you are after not just drama. dsouza ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 4:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-rockstar/50348/33 "2011-05-26T04:58:41Z")
Hi OCD I gave your Instant Rockstar mix a try. Did squat for me. I noticed in the mirror the jerk making my face tense and angry looking. It could be I scared everyone away with 1 spray of jerk. HA! I noticed no looks for any woman for that matter. I tried it at the gym before I worked out where I was surrounded by a hundred or more people and nada. It just makes me look tense and angry. I have decided to lay off this mix. No instant rockstar for me with it.. ---
**Author:** ![ocd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e19b73/32.png) [@ocd](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ocd)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 6:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-rockstar/50348/34 "2011-05-26T06:31:41Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > Hi OCD I gave your Instant Rockstar mix a try. Did squat for me. I noticed in the mirror the jerk making my face tense and angry looking. It could be I scared everyone away with 1 spray of jerk. HA! > > I noticed no looks for any woman for that matter. I tried it at the gym before I worked out where I was surrounded by a hundred or more people and nada. It just makes me look tense and angry. > > I have decided to lay off this mix. No instant rockstar for me with it.. I am sorry to hear that it didn’t work for you ☹ How old are you? Keep in mind, as I have mentioned earlier in my post that I am 39 so I can handle high -none without any problems. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 7:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-rockstar/50348/35 "2011-05-26T07:38:46Z")
> [@ocd](#): > > I am sorry to hear that it didn’t work for you ☹ How old are you? > > Keep in mind, as I have mentioned earlier in my post that I am 39 so I can handle high -none without any problems. I am 41. Oh well I believe I will find my magic rockstar mix with ammo IS p83. A different type of rockstar. Still more testing to be done. BTW with IJ I only used 1 spray. dsouza ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 10:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-rockstar/50348/36 "2011-05-26T10:18:02Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > Hi OCD I gave your Instant Rockstar mix a try. Did squat for me. I noticed in the mirror the jerk making my face tense and angry looking. It could be I scared everyone away with 1 spray of jerk. HA! > > I noticed no looks for any woman for that matter. I tried it at the gym before I worked out where I was surrounded by a hundred or more people and nada. It just makes me look tense and angry. > > I have decided to lay off this mix. No instant rockstar for me with it.. > [@ocd](#): > > I am sorry to hear that it didn’t work for you ☹ How old are you? > > Keep in mind, as I have mentioned earlier in my post that I am 39 so I can handle high -none without any problems. > [@dsouza](#): > > I am 41. > Oh well I believe I will find my magic rockstar mix with ammo IS p83. A different type of rockstar. > > Still more testing to be done. BTW with IJ I only used 1 spray. > > dsouza This is actually a very insightful convo. Which member is right and has the Instant rockstar combo ??? They both are right. What works for one person may not for another. Pheromones are not one size fits all. Just like all of our natural pheromones differ slightly to create a unique message that speaks to the rest of your personality and attributes so does synthetic mones. Now earlier in the thread Dsouza asked \>\>\>\> > [@](#): > > Can you expand on what you mean? Why would you say that.. Tisha says IS, [AMMO](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) , and [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) make a rockstar mix. When you asked this question I was reluctant to anwser it because I dont want to sound like I am tooting my own horn. But here go’s… Toot toot… I am a pheromone expert. Not on the scientific end but on the use end. I read your posts and I have a pretty good indication of your wants needs and what your personality is like from those posts. I can do this fairly quickly and with little interaction because of other talents I have. Then I fit the mone to you to meet your needs and work with your personality. I dont suggest something because it works for me or its popular with members. I take the holistic view of the person I am suggesting for. This is why I suggested P83 for you. Its not that OCD’s mix is not a rock star mix for him. Its that his needs and personality are just different then yours. This is why so many people have trouble with mones. They read one person saying " P### makes girls horny and assume the position or A314 attracts all women because it brings status up etc etc and they run and buy it and then they dont get the same results and it leaves them thinking well this shit doesn’t work. Its not that it doesn’t work its just not the mix that matches you and your needs. I wish it was as easy as just saying go get a bottle or this or that and it will do exactly what your hoping but its a bit more involved then that. Mimicking mother nature usually is. I know some people will assume Tish is trying to push more products but let me remind you I dont work here and I dont sell pheromones. Makes no difference to me what you buy or dont buy. Just keep in mind that when I suggest something specifically to you its because it fits you not because its the popular thing to get or jimbob said it does this or that. You got to test and play around with these things to find exactly what fits your needs. I am just good at it because of my talents to tap into people empathically and my understanding of the putatives and mixes help me match people up with products well. There is no good or bad mix just mixes that fit you and mixes that dont. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 5:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-rockstar/50348/37 "2011-05-26T17:06:06Z")
toot toot Tisha! Job well done! P.S. I like how you stated you give personal advice on mones depending on the person and his/her personality. That approach always works better than a one size fits all. Its one of the reasons I choose to read your posts with an open eye for detail. dsouza [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-rockstar/50348.md?page=1)