# Instant Sexiness used by men **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 20, 2006, 3:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-sexiness-used-by-men/923 "2006-11-20T15:13:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 3:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-sexiness-used-by-men/923/1 "2006-11-20T15:13:28Z")
Have any men here used Isexi? I placed an order for ISexi mix A and am waiting eagerly for it to arrive. After reading many reports about men using TAH and TAL I figured ISexi A may be a good start as the ratio of TAH and TAL is optimized to increase female confidence and forwardness 🙄 . I want to see what it does in combination with P79 which has worked very well for me in making women take a more active role 😛 Also I remember Michael mentioned somewhere that all female [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) are inherently social so TAH and TAL should also work as good social mone. Any suggestions on what dosage and application point will be right. I am thinking to start with just 1 spray distributed on my wrists. Does anyone have any other combo ideas (except P79)? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Homura83](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/homura83/32/1989_2.png) [@Homura83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Homura83)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 5:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-sexiness-used-by-men/923/2 "2006-11-20T17:02:04Z")
You have my support man.Definitely adventurous.I suggest you try it with Turn Up The Heat perhaps?😃 ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 5:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-sexiness-used-by-men/923/3 "2006-11-20T17:20:34Z")
Don’t know how it will go for you, as I know Michael put Cat off buying it, 'cos it is like us ladies wearing original A314 - it doesn’t work. There are always exceptions though, so who knows? Ail 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 5:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-sexiness-used-by-men/923/4 "2006-11-20T17:26:22Z")
I am DYING to hear all about this. i am very openminded to this kind of research. i do it myself. my theory is that it will effect your own personal signiture to the extent that you will sear into the minds of all females around you that you are indeed a woman- hear you roar. but since wearing A314 has not turned me into a man ,you might indeed have something here. i look forward to the posts, this has wonderful implications if you succeed!🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Homura83](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/homura83/32/1989_2.png) [@Homura83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Homura83)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 5:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-sexiness-used-by-men/923/5 "2006-11-20T17:29:51Z")
Hence it would be foolproof if you use it in tandum with a godly men’s product like TUTH,maybe [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) or PMX101 as well. ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 6:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-sexiness-used-by-men/923/6 "2006-11-20T18:54:03Z")
Guys, I am afraid too that people might perceive me as woman(ly) or homosexual, not that there’s anything wrong with that 😛 ! I was thinking along the lines of Homura to try it with a strong male signature phero, TUTH and/or A314. Michael did mention once about TAH specifically in a PM to me about being perceived as homosexual. But he also noticed how this might be effective as a “wolf in sheep’s clothing” type approach. How gays have lot of female friends and are fearlessly approached by women and are felt to be easily socially accessible. It’s not something which hasn’t been done before either. I specifically remember examine’s ‘It’s him’ mix which has both TAH and TAL and he raves about it and still uses it. I know female forwardness can be achieved. I have seen glimpses of it with P79 and it makes life much easier. I was the one doing the choosing and I rejected all of them 😃 , felt very powerful though. Hoping to see more of those days/nights. ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 7:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-sexiness-used-by-men/923/7 "2006-11-20T19:10:14Z")
It’s the cops in ISexi/W that Michael thinks are a bad idea for guys to be using, as far as I remember. There is a lot more than just TAH and TAL in it too, but I know for a fact that Cat was warned off using it by Micheal - and you know just how adventurous HE is.. However, you may find it works for you. Ail 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 7:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-sexiness-used-by-men/923/8 "2006-11-20T19:12:10Z")
It’s the cops in ISexi/W that Michael thinks are a bad idea for guys to be using, as far as I remember. There is a lot more than just TAH and TAL in it too, but I know for a fact that Cat was warned off using it by Michael - and you know just how adventurous HE is.. However, you may find it works for you. Mix A makes us women come across as strong, dominant and confident, and Mix B gives us a playful, flirtatious, bunny-type vibe. Ail 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 7:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-sexiness-used-by-men/923/9 "2006-11-20T19:27:25Z")
> [@Ail](#): > > It’s the cops in Instant Sexiness For Women that Michael thinks are a bad idea for guys to be using, as far as I remember. > > There is a lot more than just TAH and TAL in it too, but I know for a fact that Cat was warned off using it by Michael - and you know just how adventurous HE is.. > > However, you may find it works for you. > > Mix A makes us women come across as strong, dominant and confident, and Mix B gives us a playful, flirtatious, bunny-type vibe. > > Ail 🙂 Thanks Ail..I forgot about cops. I don’t know why Michael would stop catlord who regularly uses even stronger cops in his own day-to-day mixes. Anyway I have used cops before, I think you know the product. It’s called Cleo. (A similar product called LAM is sold here for those who are unaware. Although I haven’t tried LAM yet). I used both Alpha-nol and Beta-nol based Cleo. Got same reactions from both. Nothing from women/men around me but on me a strong sexual response, i.e. walking around or sitting in a class during daytime just produced strong erections that won’t quit. Sexual thoughts kept popping up in my mind nomatter how much I tried to think otherwise. Also will get a pimple or two within a day. Typical symptoms of testosterone rise! I don’t get this response in me with self-application of EW but Cleo works without fail everytime. I don’t know why. But back to the topic. So I am not too wary of couplins content in ISexi. I know you and other women have mentioned that you add a whole bottle of EW to your ISexi. So, I am guessing the initial cop content in ISexi is not that much to cause any trouble considering I have already dealt with Cleo. If anything I am expecting to get some testosterone boost or ‘validation effect’ (which I doubt by the way but has been one of the theories floating around about cops use by men). It maynot turn out as I hope but I will keep my fingers crossed 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rob)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 8:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-sexiness-used-by-men/923/10 "2006-11-20T20:39:10Z")
> [@nbully79](#): > > Guys, I am afraid too that people might perceive me as woman(ly) or homosexual, not that there’s anything wrong with that 😛 ! I was thinking along the lines of Homura to try it with a strong male signature phero, Turn Up The Heat and/or A314. Michael did mention once about TAH specifically in a PM to me about being perceived as homosexual. But he also noticed how this might be effective as a “wolf in sheep’s clothing” type approach. How gays have lot of female friends and are fearlessly approached by women and are felt to be easily socially accessible. > > . Women are attracted to homosexual men because they pose no sexual threat to their comfort zone. If you are straight and are interested in women.. then it is not ok to come off as homosexual, whether you are or not.. it just isn’t right. lol. What is even worse is some guy who thinks he is doing the right thing to attract women by being feminine. Even if you do get past her defenses.. now all of a sudden you have to make up for that category she stuck you in just because you pose no sexual threat… especially if you are percieved as gay and then all of a sudden make a straight man move.. then it would come off as strange.. or something like “ohh that is so sweet,” etc. Its better to just be male or be yourself, relax so you do not make people nervous and just be careful which boundaries you push. ---
**Author:** ![countesszero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/countesszero/32/1392_2.png) [@countesszero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/countesszero)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 9:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-sexiness-used-by-men/923/11 "2006-11-20T21:05:16Z")
I use the mutant batch A314 in my mixes without any adverse effects. Nbully79, I say go for it. Of course your talking to a female who is now experimenting with Pre-Release Dirty and loving every minute of it. ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 9:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-sexiness-used-by-men/923/12 "2006-11-20T21:52:02Z")
> [@Rob](#): > > What is even worse is some guy who thinks he is doing the right thing to attract women by being feminine. Well he is doing the right thing if he wants to be her “girl friend”.😮 But why would he want to do that? Women don’t #$%# their girl friends. ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 9:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-sexiness-used-by-men/923/13 "2006-11-20T21:59:39Z")
> [@Rob](#): > > Women are attracted to homosexual men because they pose no sexual threat to their comfort zone. If you are straight and are interested in women.. then it is not ok to come off as homosexual, whether you are or not.. it just isn’t right. lol. > > What is even worse is some guy who thinks he is doing the right thing to attract women by being feminine. Even if you do get past her defenses.. now all of a sudden you have to make up for that category she stuck you in just because you pose no sexual threat… especially if you are percieved as gay and then all of a sudden make a straight man move.. then it would come off as strange.. or something like “ohh that is so sweet,” etc. Its better to just be male or be yourself, relax so you do not make people nervous and just be careful which boundaries you push. Yes man, I hear you! There will be no sudden straight man move as I am a straight man throughout and will be behaving as I naturally/usually do unless it’s application affects me too much (that’s why the wrist application). It’s the very concept of why we do mixes around here. Trying to strike a balance and see if something comes off it. See if there are any heterosexual women who are attracted to that kind of signature. Only experimentation will tell, I guess! Hope I don’t freak out the girls who know me too well or I interact daily with. They might perceive that I am now trying to come out of the closet all of a sudden 😃 !! Now, that won’t be good! ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 10:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-sexiness-used-by-men/923/14 "2006-11-20T22:03:35Z")
> [@countesszero](#): > > I use the mutant batch A314 in my mixes without any adverse effects. Nbully79, I say go for it. Of course your talking to a female who is now experimenting with Pre-Release Dirty and loving every minute of it. Countess, I am wondering, would you say you are very feminine by nature? Does A314 give you any manly traits or do you just notice reactions in other people, while you yourself continue to behave normally? Yeah you are kind of an oddball I will say. I definitely didn’t expect that a woman could get good results with a high -none product like Dirty. As Jasmin said “…we all are becoming slightly androgynous. Is this where evolution is heading?..” ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 10:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-sexiness-used-by-men/923/15 "2006-11-20T22:30:53Z")
I just don’t think I could pull off the whole -none thing, which is why I am VERY surprised people are saying The Edge Gel Packs for women are high in -none, as I get great results using those, but although I am a very confident, gregarious and in control woman, I seriously (and consciously to a certain degree) DO resemble a real-life Barbie-Doll, one of my cars is pink and a convertible, my house looks like a Hot-pink/cream/lilac-toned Ice-Cream palace (Much to “The Man’s” horror, a lot of the time’..) and I am not in any way, shape or form masculine at ALL, so I wonder if they really ARE as high in -none as is thought.. The mysteries of the [pheromone](https://a314.com/) world, indeed.. Ail 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2006, 12:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-sexiness-used-by-men/923/16 "2006-11-21T00:10:01Z")
I don’t think we know that Edge For Women is _high_ in -none, it’s just that it’s one of the few products for women that contain -none _at all_ (as well as 2 secret ingredients, supposedly…). I remember Oscar, I think it was, saying that he didn’t think there was much -none odor to Edge For Women. There certainly is _some_ sharp odor that’s not -Androstenol, Androstadienone, cops or -Androsterone, and I thought it resembled the odor of Edge For Men, so I surmised that must be what -none smelled like. I haven’t smelled pure chemset -none. I wouldn’t want to wear a lot of -none, but it can add a certain spice if it’s in a small proportion, dominated by other, more stereotypically female scents. ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2006, 12:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-sexiness-used-by-men/923/17 "2006-11-21T00:47:35Z")
> [@nbully79](#): > > Have any men here used Instant Sexiness? I placed an order for ISexi mix A and am waiting eagerly for it to arrive. After reading many reports about men using TAH and TAL I figured ISexi A may be a good start as the ratio of TAH and TAL is optimized to increase female confidence and forwardness 🙄 . > I want to see what it does in combination with P79 which has worked very well for me in making women take a more active role 😛 > Also I remember Michael mentioned somewhere that all female pheromones are inherently social so TAH and TAL should also work as good social pheromone. Any suggestions on what dosage and application point will be right. I am thinking to start with just 1 spray distributed on my wrists. > Does anyone have any other combo ideas (except P79)? > 🙂 I have played with I Sexiness in combination with masculine mones (none etc). It does risk projecting a gay vibe - guys winking at you etc. It seems to be very effective with bi girls (small sample) I don’t yet have enough experience with it to have found a general purpose club/bar mix. Rbt and I disagree on this. But it’s my view that coming across as a bit gay might not be unhelpful to attempts at seduction in certain contexts if you can carry it off. There is a story in ‘The Game’ by Neil Strauss about a woman who is convinced he is gay even after sleeping with him. It’s okay for her to come back with you because you are ‘safe’… but once she is back at your place and in a sexual state (kino, ss patterns) it doesn’t matter whether she thinks you are gay or not. Of course this might not want to be what you project in social contexts generally so I would advise caution. ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2006, 12:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-sexiness-used-by-men/923/18 "2006-11-21T00:53:50Z")
> [@Mtnjim](#): > > Well he is doing the right thing if he wants to be her “girl friend”.😮 But why would he want to do that? **Women don’t #$%# their girl friends**. really? although the incidence of women who actually go with other women may not be that high, my impression is that the incidence of those who can find other women sexy is at least a significant minority (25%+?). some recent studies tend to be consistent with this. [http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/study\_suggests\_difference\_between\_female\_and\_male\_sexuality](http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/study_suggests_difference_between_female_and_male_sexuality) Three decades of research on men’s sexual arousal show patterns that clearly track sexual orientation – gay men overwhelmingly become sexually aroused by images of men and heterosexual men by images of women. In other words, men’s sexual arousal patterns seem obvious. But a new Northwestern University study boosts the relatively limited research on women’s sexuality with a surprisingly different finding regarding women’s sexual arousal. From Northwestern University:Study suggests difference between female and male sexuality EVANSTON, Ill. — Three decades of research on men’s sexual arousal show patterns that clearly track sexual orientation – gay men overwhelmingly become sexually aroused by images of men and heterosexual men by images of women. In other words, men’s sexual arousal patterns seem obvious. But a new Northwestern University study boosts the relatively limited research on women’s sexuality with a surprisingly different finding regarding women’s sexual arousal. In contrast to men, both heterosexual and lesbian women tend to become sexually aroused by both male and female erotica, and, thus, have a bisexual arousal pattern. “These findings likely represent a fundamental difference between men’s and women’s brains and have important implications for understanding how sexual orientation development differs between men and women,” said J. Michael Bailey, professor and chair of psychology at Northwestern and senior researcher of the study “A Sex Difference in the Specificity of Sexual Arousal.” The study is forthcoming in the journal Psychological Science. Bailey’s main research focus has been on the genetics and environment of sexual orientation, and he is one of the principal investigators of a widely cited study that concludes that genes influence male homosexuality. As in many areas of sexuality, research on women’s sexual arousal patterns has lagged far behind men’s, but the scant research on the subject does hint that, compared with men, women’s sexual arousal patterns may be less tightly connected to their sexual orientation. The Northwestern study strongly suggests this is true. The Northwestern researchers measured the psychological and physiological sexual arousal in homosexual and heterosexual men and women as they watched erotic films. There were three types of erotic films: those featuring only men, those featuring only women and those featuring male and female couples. As with previous research, the researchers found that men responded consistent with their sexual orientations. In contrast, both homosexual and heterosexual women showed a bisexual pattern of psychological as well as genital arousal. That is, heterosexual women were just as sexually aroused by watching female stimuli as by watching male stimuli, even though they prefer having sex with men rather than women. “In fact, the large majority of women in contemporary Western societies have sex exclusively with men,” said Meredith Chivers, a Ph.D. candidate in clinical psychology at Northwestern University, a psychology intern at the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health and the study’s first author. “But I have long suspected that women’s sexuality is very different from men’s, and this study scientifically demonstrates one way this is so.” The study’s results mesh with current research showing that women’s sexuality demonstrates increased flexibility relative to men in other areas besides sexual orientation, according to Chivers. “Taken together, these results suggest that women’s sexuality differs from men and emphasize the need for researchers to develop a model of the development and organization of female sexuality independent from models of male sexuality,” she said. The study’s four authors include Bailey and three graduate students in Northwestern’s psychology department, Chivers, Gerulf Rieger and Elizabeth Latty. “Since most women seem capable of sexual arousal to both sexes, why do they choose one or the other?” Bailey asked. “Probably for reasons other than sexual arousal.” Sexual arousal is the emotional and physical response to sexual stimuli, including erotica or actual people. It has been known since the early 1960s that homosexual and heterosexual men respond in specific but opposite ways to sexual stimuli depicting men and women. Films provoke the greatest sexual response, and films of men having sex with men or of women having sex with women provoke the largest differences between homosexual and heterosexual men. That is because the same-sex films offer clear-cut results, whereas watching heterosexual sex could be exciting to both homosexual and heterosexual men, but for different reasons. Typically, men experience genital arousal and psychological sexual arousal when they watch films depicting their preferred sex, but not when they watch films depicting the other sex. Men’s specific pattern of sexual arousal is such a reliable fact that genital arousal can be used to assess men’s sexual preferences. Even gay men who deny their own homosexuality will become more sexually aroused by male sexual stimuli than by female stimuli. “The fact that women’s sexual arousal patterns are not all predicted by their sexual orientations suggests that men’s and women’s minds and brains are very different,” Bailey said. To rule out the possibility that the differences between men’s and women’s genital sexual arousal patterns might be due to the different ways that genital arousal is measured in men and women, the Northwestern researchers identified a subset of subjects: postoperative transsexuals who began life as men but had surgery to construct artificial vaginas. In a sense, those transsexuals have the brains of men but the genitals of women. Their psychological and genital arousal patterns matched those of men – those who like men were more aroused by male stimuli and those who like women were more aroused by the female stimuli – even though their genital arousal was measured in the same way women’s was. “This shows that the sex difference that we found is real and almost certainly due to a sex difference in the brain,” said Bailey. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2006, 1:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-sexiness-used-by-men/923/19 "2006-11-21T01:10:43Z")
the difference here is not that women cannot get arroused by both men and women; that is not novel. the difference (unless i have overlooked it) is that it says nothing about women being attracted to effeminate men . i can like men and i can like women. i do not become arroused with womanly-men. BIG difference. the research nbully does will be all together different than that study. i am still interested in the findings, you never know. ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2006, 1:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-sexiness-used-by-men/923/20 "2006-11-21T01:23:32Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > the difference here is not that women cannot get arroused by both men and women; that is not novel. > the difference (unless i have overlooked it) is that it says nothing about women being attracted to effeminate men . > i can like men and i can like women. i do not become arroused with womanly-men. BIG difference. > the research nbully does will be all together different than that study. i am still interested in the findings, you never know. I guess there are two somewhat separable things here. Effeminate men (who likely put out a signature that is very obviously male even if it is somewhat subdued vs a not-effeminate man). Vs apparent freak-of-nature (but in actuality synthetically-enhanced) high-female-mone-emitting-man (whatever his appearance and demeanour). I think that in the right context and given the right set of behaviours both can work. I am certain that smallish doses of I Sexiness increase the attractiveness of middle of the road guys to some (many?) bi women. > [@](#): > > I i do not become arroused with womanly-men. BIG difference. it has been noted in the seduction community by several different people that many effective seducers are somewhat effeminate. obviously this does not mean that most effeminate men are effective seducers. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-sexiness-used-by-men/923.md?page=2)