# Instant Shine 1x + AMMO 1x = There Is HOPE Afterall! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 31, 2010, 9:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-1x-ammo-1x-there-is-hope-afterall/42984 "2010-10-31T21:20:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![AplAy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aplay/32/1054_2.png) [@AplAy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AplAy)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 9:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-1x-ammo-1x-there-is-hope-afterall/42984/1 "2010-10-31T21:20:06Z")
Hey there, to get a full debrief of what I have been up to, just read my two latest reports here: [Journal of Experimental Pheromone Usage When Meeting Women - #12 by AplAy](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-of-experimental-pheromone-usage-when-meeting-women/42016/12) I post this thread because I have now experimented with AMMO 1x and [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) 1x. I used one spraying of AMMO 1x and one spraying of Instant Shine, both on my throat so I expose it more often to the people I will be talking to (which will be mostly girls since those are interesting for me). What I have been observing as good as I am to observe during being a little bit drunk, is that girls I talk to seem more responsive, at least if they already have “attraction” for me, whatever reason that might have created attraction. I also saw the opposite somehow, that when a girl did not show any initial interest the mix of AMMO 1x and Instant Shine 1x seemed somehow to enhance this negative effect which then would help me to avoid girls who are not at all interested in me, this will save me and them a lot of time! The girls who were more positively responsive were that the whole way and if I just had some more balls (courage with another word!) I could have probably taken things to another level. Now, this experiment was done in a club setting and I will try this mix in a school setting even if I know from experience people cannot express themselves as much there as they can in club settings due to the slut-label dilemma most girls experience. Now I am very open for suggestions and other people’s experiences with using AMMO + INSTANT SHINE (not just one of them!). Please share if You have been mixing these two with each other and report what you’ve seen. SMELL YA’LL LATER, GUYS!!! \\ AplAy /// ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 12:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-1x-ammo-1x-there-is-hope-afterall/42984/2 "2010-11-01T00:16:54Z")
that is a very good combo -one of my favorites. There is a reason why most people like that combo. Also, think about this: some of the girls who think negatively of you were suddenly feeling some attraction for you, and it freaked them out. You should also consider that possibility. Wear the same combo around these girls who think negatively of you and see if they change over time, ok? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![illusionss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/3be4f8/32.png) [@illusionss](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/illusionss)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 4:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-1x-ammo-1x-there-is-hope-afterall/42984/3 "2010-11-01T16:12:04Z")
It is also my favorite combo. I’m usually wearing 2s [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and 3s IS. People are more friendly when I wear it. ---
**Author:** ![AplAy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aplay/32/1054_2.png) [@AplAy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AplAy)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 4:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-1x-ammo-1x-there-is-hope-afterall/42984/4 "2010-11-01T16:32:23Z")
Thanks for replying that feedback! I hoped even more people would answer actually! I will in my upcoming experiment try out AMMO 1x + [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) 1x (one spray of each, both on my throat) in a school settings because I once tried only AMMO 1x, one spray on each of my wrists and I did not observe any kind of measurable results then. Some people suggested that AMMO 1x has too strong effect in such environment and that girls/women get inhibited because they cannot express their sexual feelings the same way there as in a club setting. It’s also good that people act more friendly towards one, because they will not know why they should be doing that so they will make up reasons that are in oneself’s advantage. So, when girls “feel attraction” to oneself, they will not think “oh it’s probably becuz he has that pheromone he bought from androticsdirect!” haha no no they will make up shit in their minds! 😃 One interesting thing though is this, that demands doing experiments on: let us say I meet a girl, she gets more into me becuz of mones and then I get her number and then we meet up another time I do not have mones on me. What kind of effect could be expected then to observe in her then? I will take on that experiment in the future and I would also appreciate if other people would do that. Thanks once again for sharing your experiences with AMMO 1x + IS 1x, more reports are appreciated, so keep posting here! \\ AplAy /// ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 3:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-1x-ammo-1x-there-is-hope-afterall/42984/5 "2010-11-02T03:15:39Z")
> [@AplAy](#): > > One interesting thing though is this, that demands doing experiments on: > let us say I meet a girl, she gets more into me becuz of mones and then I > get her number and then we meet up another time I do not have mones on > me. What kind of effect could be expected then to observe in her then? If you are good looking no problemo. However, if you aren’t it can make her feel you’re not as attractive as she once thought. i would wear it around the girl about 5 times; after that, she will KNOW that you are attractive 😉 Also, think of it this way. Did you go to your prom? Have you had a formal evening out with a group of girls? Did many girls that looked whatever looked really hot with some make-up, expensive dresses and heels? Afterward, seeing them that hot, you realize how hot they can be, so you might like them. It is same with mones. They can see how hot you can be when you are ready to be. That potential alone could do the trick. Just be confident and wear mones around the same girl a few times, and you should be fine This is from my personal experience ---
**Author:** ![AplAy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aplay/32/1054_2.png) [@AplAy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AplAy)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-1x-ammo-1x-there-is-hope-afterall/42984/6 "2010-11-02T21:47:45Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > If you are good looking no problemo. However, if you aren’t it can make her feel you’re not as attractive as she once thought. i would wear it around the girl about 5 times; after that, she will KNOW that you are attractive 😉 > > Also, think of it this way. Did you go to your prom? Have you had a formal evening out with a group of girls? Did many girls that looked whatever looked really hot with some make-up, expensive dresses and heels? Afterward, seeing them that hot, you realize how hot they can be, so you might like them. It is same with mones. They can see how hot you can be when you are ready to be. That potential alone could do the trick. Just be confident and wear mones around the same girl a few times, and you should be fine > This is from my personal experience Haha that’s really awesome! I can see two psychological principles such as Law of Exposure (the more often exposed to something positive the more we like it) and Misattribution of Arousal Theory (when we wrongly attribute the arousal we feel inside ourselves) here. So, if I then expose one girl for the mones a couple of times and she does not know this is happening then she would soon like me because she cannot attribute it to my mones she does not even know I am having some kind of perfume that would affect her! So, this must be tried. Since you talk from experience, could you just tell me a short story where you kinda applied this methodology and effects you saw in one or more girls you tried this method on? I love real-life examples! Thanks again for answering! \\ AplAy /// ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 5:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-1x-ammo-1x-there-is-hope-afterall/42984/7 "2010-11-03T17:38:35Z")
Well, there is this one tall girl (6ft), and this other short girl, whome I got into an argument with - Anyways, they weren’t really into me, and vice versa. I wore ammo 2 shots to neck for fun about 5 times. About 3rd time, both of them started looking at me with DIHL and even bit drooling. Ever since then, they have been very nice and attentive to me. They even blush when I come near them. At first, I was like wtf? What happened here? So, I guess mones got them attracted? Well, in short, it made me a BELIEVER! ---
**Author:** ![vlal21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/59ef9b/32.png) [@vlal21](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vlal21)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 6:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-1x-ammo-1x-there-is-hope-afterall/42984/8 "2010-11-03T18:24:44Z")
I’m a noob to. I got IS and AMMO and went to hooters. I got the VIP treatment and 3 numbers. I have the extra strength IS & AMMO though. I just ordered some A314 to so will see how that goes. > [@Help Needed! Major Noob](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-needed-major-noob/42819): > > Hi I everyone I’m 29 and a total noob. I purchased this Pheromone called Pheromone Advantage from this site called dramend. It’s total garbage. I have tried it all kinds of ways and dosage levels not 1 hit in a Month. I wish I found this site before I decided to purchase it. The circles I currently hang in there are so many beautiful single women. I should be getting laid every night it’s like 15 girls to 1 guy but yet I’m single and get placed in the friend zone by the ladies. Now I have a dil… ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 7:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-1x-ammo-1x-there-is-hope-afterall/42984/9 "2010-11-03T19:33:36Z")
hooters girls REALLY DIG ammo + IS… ---
**Author:** ![AplAy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aplay/32/1054_2.png) [@AplAy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AplAy)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 7:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-1x-ammo-1x-there-is-hope-afterall/42984/10 "2010-11-03T19:42:40Z")
**CoolKatDC:** Thanks for that very brief report! Really inspiring and makes me wanna use the mix of AMMO 1x and [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) 1x even more! I will try to expose same girls to AMMO 1x + Instant Shine 1x a few times to observe if they suddenly change their mind about me. Research also strongly supports this: _“Repeated exposure to a stimulus can make people like this stimulus better (Bomstein, 1989; Zajonc, 1968, 1980). Previous findings suggest that this mere-exposure effect (MEE) occurs although individuals are not consciously aware of having been exposed to the stimuli (cf. Bornstein, 1989).”_ _“The MEE is particularly strong when recognition of the stimuli fails or when the stimuli are presented subliminally (e.g., Bornstein & D’Agostino, 1992; Bomstein, Leone, & Galley, 1987; Janiszewski, 1988,1993; Kunst-Wilson & Zajonc, 1980; Mandler, Nakamura, & Van Zandt, 1987; Monahan, Murphy, & Zajonc, 2000; Seamon, Brody, & Kauff, 1983).”_ (from Hansen & Wänke, 2009, p.161-162). Full reference: Hansen, J. & Wänke, M. (2009). Liking what’s familiar: The importance of unconscious familiarity in the mere-exposure effect. _Social Cognition, 27_, 2, 161-182. So, when you exposed them to this scent stimuli they liked it slightly and then they liked it even more as you kept expose them to it and suddenly they rationalize their “more growing liking” for you as time goes on and each time you meet them you have exposed them to this scent stimuli. **vlal21:** I’ve read your report in your link as well, really interesting phenomenon! I wonder, is “hooters” a club, stripclub or just a bar? I am from Sweden so I have no clue what kind of place hooters is!😛 Thanks again for the answers with real-life examples using IS and AMMO, I love more empirical evidence from different people around the whole world! \\ AplAy /// ---
**Author:** ![mrarob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/fbc32d/32.png) [@mrarob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mrarob)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 12:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-1x-ammo-1x-there-is-hope-afterall/42984/11 "2010-11-04T00:45:32Z")
> [@AplAy](#): > > I am from Sweden so I have no clue what kind of place hooters is!😛 [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/9/92a5a1d03772138afd3d5451bf24511ce4bf89f2.png) ](https://www.villagevoice.com/wp-content/themes/villagevoice/images/vv-logo-759x500.png) [http://worldonpc.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/hooters-panama-city.jpg](http://worldonpc.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/hooters-panama-city.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 2:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-1x-ammo-1x-there-is-hope-afterall/42984/12 "2010-11-04T02:57:22Z")
> [@AplAy](#): > > **CoolKatDC:** Thanks for that very brief report! Really inspiring and makes > me wanna use the mix of AMMO 1x and Instant Shine 1x even more! I will > try to expose same girls to AMMO 1x + Instant Shine 1x a few times to > observe if they suddenly change their mind about me. Research also strongly supports this: > > _“Repeated exposure to a stimulus can make people like this stimulus better > (Bomstein, 1989; Zajonc, 1968, 1980). Previous findings suggest that this > mere-exposure effect (MEE) occurs although individuals are not consciously > aware of having been exposed to the stimuli (cf. Bornstein, 1989).”_ > > _“The MEE is particularly strong when recognition of the stimuli fails or when the > stimuli are presented subliminally (e.g., Bornstein & D’Agostino, 1992; Bomstein, > Leone, & Galley, 1987; Janiszewski, 1988,1993; Kunst-Wilson & Zajonc, 1980; > Mandler, Nakamura, & Van Zandt, 1987; Monahan, Murphy, & Zajonc, 2000; > Seamon, Brody, & Kauff, 1983).”_ (from Hansen & Wänke, 2009, p.161-162). > > Full reference: Hansen, J. & Wänke, M. (2009). Liking what’s familiar: The importance > of unconscious familiarity in the mere-exposure effect. _Social Cognition, 27_, 2, 161-182. > > So, when you exposed them to this scent stimuli they liked it slightly and > then they liked it even more as you kept expose them to it and suddenly > they rationalize their “more growing liking” for you as time goes on and > each time you meet them you have exposed them to this scent stimuli. > > **vlal21:** I’ve read your report in your link as well, really interesting > phenomenon! I wonder, is “hooters” a club, stripclub or just a bar? > > I am from Sweden so I have no clue what kind of place hooters is!😛 > > Thanks again for the answers with real-life examples using IS and AMMO, I > love more empirical evidence from different people around the whole world! > > \\ AplAy /// Hejsan, Hur ar det? Heh. Jag talar Svenska lite 😃 Jag studerar en Sverige Anyways, I am guessing Swedish girls like AMMO + IS + IH. They like closeness, intimacy and warmth, esp during the colder days, which is coming up now. You may also consider IG or A314 for the long winter that is looming… ---
**Author:** ![vlal21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/59ef9b/32.png) [@vlal21](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vlal21)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 11:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-1x-ammo-1x-there-is-hope-afterall/42984/13 "2010-11-04T23:33:50Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > Hejsan, > Hur ar det? Heh. Jag talar Svenska lite 😃 Jag studerar en Sverige > Anyways, I am guessing Swedish girls like AMMO + IS + IH. > They like closeness, intimacy and warmth, esp during the colder days, which is coming up now. You may also consider IG or A314 for the long winter that is looming… Kind of weird I haven’t had anymore noticeable hits today. Yesterday my co-worker who I know for sure likes me even though I’m so out of her league. She just sat on my lap and kissed me on my neck leaving me with the WTF face in front of my guy friends. After that nothing from girls anywhere else. Maybe the extra strength doesn’t mesh with my body. The [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) gift I got (Thanks Ben) I believe works as this guy proceeded to talk to me for a very long time today about the scrambled eggs I was having at the waffle house counter for no reason at all. I was trying to avoid all conversations before I had my first mug of coffee but he just wouldn’t stop. My A314 should be here tomorrow YaY!