# Instant Shine 4X v2.1 EXTENDO! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 14, 2008, 9:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-4x-v2-1-extendo/13924 "2008-06-14T21:25:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2008, 9:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-4x-v2-1-extendo/13924/1 "2008-06-14T21:25:15Z")
> [@idle](#): > > **Instant Shine 2.0 Tests** > [Instant Shine "Extendo"](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-extendo/17355) by [mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim) > [=) Little bird's Roadlog (= - #25 by mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/little-birds-roadlog/16270/25) by [mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird) > > **Instant Shine 2.1 Tests** > [Instant Shine 4X v2.1 EXTENDO!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-4x-v2-1-extendo/13924) by [phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya) > [=) Little bird's Roadlog (= - #25 by mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/little-birds-roadlog/16270/25) by [mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird) > [Instant Shine 2.1 EXTENDO](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-2-1-extendo/17507) by [idle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/idle) > > I wish to ask everyone to add this links at the beginning of their > post for better finding and comparing the tests and reviews. Not a problem at all Idle. 😉 Okay, so it is my expected duty to the Lords of Pheromones for their gifts and blessings. 😃 So along with my recent order came a big blue bottle of Instant Shine 4X ‘Extendo’ v.2.1 A big ‘HUH?’ 😕 was on my face. What is this? I’ve had experience with Instant Shine 2X before and experience with [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) 4X, so IS 4X should be something to be careful with. 😃 I don’t know if there are other IS v2.1s, I didn’t see any search results. So my initial impressions of IS2.1 are that it’s not nearly as..sharp or bright as I might have expected it to. IS 2X nearly burns me out on first application. Rather, that, usually it can be a little overwhelming and requires a little dry down time or separate applications. I’ve put on two sprays of IS2.1 (4X x 2) and it didn’t feel that way at all. In fact, one spray of IS2.1 was ‘mellower’ than one spray of IS. It doesn’t bite upon application like original IS. Due to this, and I’ll admit it, the name ‘extendo’ kinda gave me ideas too, that although IS2.1 is 4X strength, it’s a slow, time release composite, making it mellower in the process, but also longer lasting. My first hit with IS2.1 isn’t one that I’d consider a huge hit or anything. She was an employee, she could just as easily have been trying to help me out. That being said, I like to shop undisturbed and usually the employees pick up on that and stay distant. Well, the shop was empty, I walk in and am greeted by a cute Persian girl, just us two. She gives me the mandatory introductions and greetings, sales pitches, then leaves me alone for a bit. I begin to look around, after a minute she tries to suggest some more shirts. I kinda just shrug off the suggestions and instead ask her if these shirts are cool to just toss in the wash. She walks up to check a tag for me. As she’s checking it, she’s reading it aloud to me, I walk up next to her and look at the tag. Now, I’m not really interested in the tag, I just wanted to talk about something else than what the hot shirts are right now. Anyways, upon walking up to her, I realize I’m a lot taller than her and it’s a really perfect opportunity for some guy to look down her shirt. Realizing this, I focus on the shirt tag like lasers. She looks up from the tag, sees me looking at the tag and not down her shirt and goes back to talking about the wash cycle. I continue looking around, she’s still telling me how this jacket’s nice, shirts are on sale, etc…I again sorta just go yea, cool, thanks. I’ll check it out. She walks away kinda, I ask her, don’t you guys get annoyed listening to this club music all day long? I’d get pretty tired if I had to hear this music in the clubs at night then the next day at work. She smiles and we talk about about how she’s Persian so she doesn’t hear American club music as much, thus it not being so annoying. We’re both 20, so we talk about how shitty America is for having a drinking age of 21, how awkward 18+ clubs are, how our parents don’t want us to marry outside of our ethnicities. Anyways, it wasn’t a short conversation, though it wasn’t novel either. By this time, another customer walks in, I’m not talking to her, so she goes and helps out the other guy. I’m still just checking out their clothes. In comes another employee, an older Persian woman with huge breast implants, incredibly fake. It just looked like someone sewed on uneven water balloons to her chest. Anyways, she’s defintely much more…experienced and is on her sales game. She’s not distracted by any small talk or such. Takes me around the shop, showing me jeans and whatnot. She’s definitely just trying to make a sale. Okay, hit two. Went to a party, pretty much all Asians. I was wearing 1 drop of A314, 1 spray of IS2.1, I get to the party and things are usual. I didn’t actually notice much A314 in the mix, if it was, it was definitely more in the background, or overlooked. The usually good reactions from my friends, I’m usually enthusiastically greeted and it was the same with this mix on. Girls are giving me close hugs, the ones that hug me tight hug me tighter. I saw a lot of random people I hadn’t seen in a while. An actually, this hit isn’t one that I attribute to pheromones, though pheromones definietly do come into the picture later on. Here’s how it broke down. My friend and I are standing around, looking at the ladies and talking about who to go approach. He picks out a girl who’s surrounded by 3-4 guys all trying to run game on her. My friend isn’t up to the challenge, so we go outside to warm up. That’s no good either, so when we come back inside I tell him, look we’re coming up with a way for you to approach her in 30 seconds or we’re leaving. He agrees so I look at the situation and try and find a way in. The target and her friends are in their own group now, but close to a guy and girl that I’m acquaintances with. I figured I’ll go over to say what’s up to the guy and girl and find a way into the target’s conversation. Naturally, they saw us coming a mile away. As soon as my friend and I begin to walk towards them (we weren’t even planning on talking to them originally) they started moving away, but in our direction. At this point I’m thinking, shit, they’re moving I gotta come up with something quick. Literally, as I’m thinking this, an opening presents itself. The target kinda spills her drink a bit on her friend. I point it out and kinda give her a hard time saying “Dude, you’re gonna spill a drink on your friend? That’s messed up!” She looks up and say, “Hell naw, you ran into us!” And they begin walking away. Before they fully walk away, I say “Oh, you’re gonna blame me and just walk away like that?” I don’t think they ever responded, but I wasn’t really expecting one. I turn say bye to the acquaintances that were right there and everyone else at the party and go to my friend’s house down the block. We get there and it’s a small after party so to speak. It’s all just homies that I haven’t seen in forever so I sit and smoke a lot. During the session, the target shows up the my friend’s place. Hmm…looks like we’ve got some friends in common. She ends up talking to a friend right behind me, so I look up (I’m in a chair), tap her on the elbow and say “Excuse me, but if that spill really was my fault, I apologize.” Before I even really have a chance to finish, she goes “NOO, it wasn’t your fault…what’s your name?” When she was saying it wasn’t my fault, her arm came down and draped across my throat and shoulder. Kinda as if she was going to put me in a head lock. We meet, and I don’t know what happens but I think the session called my name and she left to go talk to someone else. After the blunt is finally done, I’m getting ready to leave (very unfortunately) and make my rounds saying peace. On the way out is Christina (the girl) and my friend, I say peace to my homie and say “nice to meet you” to Christina. She says, we didn’t meet. I say, “Yes we did Christina.”, as I’m leaving. She grabs my arm and pulls me back. “Wait, what was your name again?” “Jong.” “John? I don’t like Johns.” “Huh? No. JONG. Not John.” “Ohhh…” After which she actually grabs my throat with her hand, as if she were trying (again) to choke me, but not applying too much pressure. I go, “Woah, you keep that up miss and you’re gonna get into some trouble”, kinda getting in her face. “But I gotta go, I’ll be seeing you around.” She replies, “I hope so.” “Oh, you will.” and I leave. I’ve been kicking myself, I should have at least secured her number there and then, but whatever, no point in crying over spilt milk. Whew..okay, hit three. Two sprays of IS2.1 and One spray of IH4X. Went to eat dinner with some friends. Hilarious conversations, just straight up comedy. We sat in my car for about…4-5 hours smoking blunts and cracking jokes. We tried to make plans to go somewhere, that didn’t happen, so we just ended up smoking more. Ended up missing a bday party which I was also pissed about, but like the number..what can I do? Get a better phone. Anyways, there really isn’t much to say, other than I believe this version is significantly different than IS regular or IS 2X. I also believe that from what I’ve read, there is a good amount of TAC in IS2.1? I don’t know if TAC was already a large component in IS or not, but that’s what I’ve got at the moment. I’m wearing two sprays of IS2.1 today too. Met a fellow apartment resident, though I’m sure that could have happened without pheromones. Though, one thing that I might not have done ordinarily was walk up to my neighbor’s door to tell him that his laundry was done and that he probably wouldn’t want to get wrinkles (which was just my way of saying, get your laundry out of the machine so I can do mine.) Wow, that was a lot more than I thought. I wanted to build up a couple experience first and put in into one post, but..this might have been overkill. ---
**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2008, 9:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-4x-v2-1-extendo/13924/2 "2008-06-14T21:31:42Z")
Great report here reps 🙂 Yea never heard of version 2.1 haha Enjoyed reading the post 😃 How long does shine last for you? ---
**Author:** ![akamahyar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/97f17d/32.png) [@akamahyar](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/akamahyar)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2008, 9:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-4x-v2-1-extendo/13924/3 "2008-06-14T21:40:48Z")
whats mx 307 ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2008, 9:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-4x-v2-1-extendo/13924/4 "2008-06-14T21:47:08Z")
Thanks Mockingbird, Shine normally lasts around…3 hours for me. I’ll expand on that a bit and say that I like refreshing around every 3 hours because I feel that the effectiveness of IS regular drops after about 2 1/2 hours. Akamahyar, I don’t know what mx307. I’m not even sure where you saw that. If you received it as a freebie from the store, then you should try it and report back on the forum. Other than that, you could try searching for it. But if it’s no results show up, it’s most likely a new mix. Go try it. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2008, 9:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-4x-v2-1-extendo/13924/5 "2008-06-14T21:53:49Z")
@akamahyer, do you have MX307? Try it and start a thread! @phya, very interesting. I wonder what they mean to say with “extendo”. It’s starting to look like the old Androtics is back and ready to kick butt! ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2008, 9:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-4x-v2-1-extendo/13924/6 "2008-06-14T21:58:24Z")
Whoa, IS 4X, eh? I’ve got to try this out! I use IS 2X almost every day for the self effects alone, even though I’ve gotten an incredible amount of hits off of it and nothing else. ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2008, 11:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-4x-v2-1-extendo/13924/7 "2008-06-14T23:08:02Z")
Renny, I’m not sure..it sorta smells of bad spanish. Like, we mean extended, but if we make it kinda spanish-ey then they won’t get it. Muahaha! I dunno.. Ariadne, yes, it’s 4X but like I said, it doesn’t feel intense like IS2X. I’ve been trying out two sprays of IS2.1 and it’s still not as blinding as IS2X. ---
**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2008, 12:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-4x-v2-1-extendo/13924/8 "2008-06-15T00:48:03Z")
Phya, Nice detailed report!!! All these new products I won’t be able to keep up LOL ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2008, 3:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-4x-v2-1-extendo/13924/9 "2008-06-15T15:01:46Z")
_note to self_ :o DUH!🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2008, 7:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-4x-v2-1-extendo/13924/10 "2008-06-15T19:21:04Z")
Small update, wore 2 sprays of IH 4X and 2 sprays of IS2.1 to a dinner last night. It was pretty much the same as the night in the car, except we were in a private room, eating dinner. We were there forever. Arrived at 8:30 and finished dinner around 11:00 or so, then stuck around in the now club till about 12:30. Alcohol was involved (just cause it’s a factor). I noticed that my friends ended up constantly overtalking each other. It was myself, another guy and a couple. It was seriously non-stop talking amongst the three of them. Everyone seemed to be trying to get out as many stories as possible. All very humorous ones. We laughed a lot like the night in the car. Our waiter was very friendly, came back to us often, almost too often, and joked around and such. Then again, we reserved a table for about 8-10 and only 4 of us show up. 😛 But we ate for about 15 people. 😃 The waitress that took our order gave me a really weird look when I told her my order. But then again, I kinda just spit it out cause I had been ready for a while. She told us she was new, for whatever reason, left, came back after a couple minutes to confirm our orders. She had the sides of my friend’s meal mixed up and thought that the Double-Cut Pork Chops was the wrong name for the pork chops or something like that. Either way, her mind was clearly occupied/busy/overworked. Other than that, there’s really not too much to say. I somehow got an expired meter ticket at 9PM. Anyone know how that happens? ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2008, 7:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-4x-v2-1-extendo/13924/11 "2008-06-15T19:32:31Z")
> [@Phya](#): > > So along with my recent order came a big blue bottle of Instant Shine 4X ‘Extendo’ v.2.1 A big ‘HUH?’ . Sounds interesting. “Extendo”? Is this some new formulation? ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 11:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-4x-v2-1-extendo/13924/12 "2008-06-17T23:02:00Z")
I guess so Daedelus. I’ve never received any version of IS approaching version 2. My IS2x is version 1. The feeling of IS2.1 is different than two sprays of IS2X. I’m not positive, as I need to gain more understanding about TAC, but I tried 20mcgs of TAC the other day, and the same kind of spontaneous laughter was present as the nights with IS2.1. It’s like we all wanted to bust jokes, both with IS2.1 and TAC. I’ll give TAC a couple more tries and maybe try IS2X + TAC. Actually..I just thought about this, the IS2.1 arrived in the same order as the order my TAC was in. In combination with IS 2X, it seems too perfect, too convenient, but maybe what makes IS2.1 different is the addition of TAC? ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2008, 6:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-4x-v2-1-extendo/13924/13 "2008-07-18T18:03:27Z")
Allllllrighty. Time to get this sucker updated. 😃 Okay, so I’ve been trying IS2.1 on and off, mixing it up with IS2x to catch the differences. So far, IS2.1 seems to have the ‘primary’ (and by ‘primary’ I mean the first noticable effect) effect of making people want to crack jokes. I can’t really explain what might be behind it, but people definitely want to crack more jokes. I crack more jokes, my friends make more jokes, etc..etc.. It’s not until after a bit of exposure that the usual ‘magnetism’ IS is known for shows itself. It’s there, but just not ‘there’ like it is in the regular IS. One example would be yesterday. I wore ~25 mcgs of TAF and 2 sprays of IS2.1 to lunch with a friend. We talked and made witty humor, we went for a walk after lunch and on the way back, we were hitting elbows on almost every stride. Pleasant conversation whole time through. It wasn’t all jokes though, we talked briefly about organic chemistry and child development. All in a light-hearted tone though. I went to Staples later that day, and I was in the quiet side of the store. I’m walking up to what I think is a register, but I’m not sure, so I ask, are you open? She didn’t hear me at first, but upon hearing my question, she sorta pretends to walk away, and then runs back, giggling. Kinda hard to describe, but you get the idea. It was very playful. In trying to get a handle on TAK and IS2.1, I haven’t had much opportunity to test out TAC to see if that’s what the added element might be. I also suspect that there might be a little a-Androstenol in there to encourage conversation. I suppose the TAA makes it feel good, the a-Androstenol helps encourage conversation, and TAC makes it into a joke competition 😛? Something that might be worth noting. IS2.1 seems to have less of an ‘impact’ upon first exposure compared to IS2x. I don’t know if I would prefer wearing IS2.1 over IS2x. IS2.1 has too much of a ‘group’ vibe and doesn’t have the ‘spotlight’ focus of the original IS. I’d wear IS2.1 is I’m going to a large party or with a larger group/gf. If I want to go out to score, I’d probably wear IS2x. It might be good with a little p74. Oh, and duration..I’d say is about the same, if not longer. Perhaps that’s what’s causing IS2.1 to lack the ‘oomph’ that the original IS has? ---
**Author:** ![Pheraoh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheraoh/32/857_2.png) [@Pheraoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheraoh)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2008, 9:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-4x-v2-1-extendo/13924/14 "2008-07-18T21:10:48Z")
Extendo? Nice to know Androtics have been working on slowing the diffusion rate of their sprays. Where oh where is the [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) Extendo? Extendo sounds like something SteveO would come up with. ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2008, 12:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-4x-v2-1-extendo/13924/15 "2008-07-19T00:31:08Z")
Yea, I’m not sure, but when I had two sprays on, I seemed to get much more blatant reactions compared to one. With one, it seems to take a little longer. That and the fact that accidental bumping didn’t start until a little while into the walk, makes me wonder if this really is some time release version. Anywho, needs more looking into. ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 5:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-4x-v2-1-extendo/13924/16 "2008-07-23T17:23:14Z")
I dont think the formula is different, the new version is meant to make the spray (Ishine being known to burn off fast) a little longer. Did you notice it lasting longer? ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 10:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-4x-v2-1-extendo/13924/17 "2008-07-24T22:23:27Z")
I think it does last longer, but it’s different. It’s clearly different. I don’t know if the diffusion rate can explain why it is so different, but it really is. It’s funny that you ask though, because I just realized, it was so different, that from day one, I didn’t even consider that it might be the same mix. It’s not like IH regular vs IH4x where it’s like IH, just way more intense. This is supposed to be a IS4X, but I guess a bit different because they state v2.1. Either way, the difference between IS regular and IS 2x for me, is that IS2x is much sharper, like lemon juice compared to orange juice or something. But IS2.1 for being 4X, is way too smooth and low key. And there is definitely a lack of ‘spotlight’ in IS2.1 that I feel is a key effect of IS for me. ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2008, 8:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-4x-v2-1-extendo/13924/18 "2008-07-25T20:05:30Z")
Examine, your comment might have been just what I needed to hear. I was thinking last night, you may be onto something. I think that whatever AD is using to extend the release is separating the different components. So, you’ve got component A releasing first, then a while later, you’ve got component B releasing, etc..which sort of explains the ‘magnetism’ of IS2.1 appearing later in the interaction, compared to the joking nature, which is very prominent at first, but settles in as time goes on. Dammit, Jasmin? SteveO? 😃 Can either one of you comment on this? ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2008, 8:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-4x-v2-1-extendo/13924/19 "2008-07-25T20:19:55Z")
> [@Phya](#): > > Examine, your comment might have been just what I needed to hear. > > I was thinking last night, you may be onto something. I think that whatever AD is using to extend the release is separating the different components. > > So, you’ve got component A releasing first, then a while later, you’ve got component B releasing, etc..which sort of explains the ‘magnetism’ of IS2.1 appearing later in the interaction, compared to the joking nature, which is very prominent at first, but settles in as time goes on. > > Dammit, Jasmin? SteveO? 😃 Can either one of you comment on this? I got my information from Stevo. I bought ISx4, and he mentioned that he just added that and the extendo versions to the site the night before. I didnt get the extendo version, because they are ‘tests’ and I sort of need the real [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) for some occasions that Ill be enduring this and next week. Let me know how they go, I may just buy them after im done with my IS bottle. Stevo, is it possible to get them in TO GO bottles for testers? Id much prefer to test a to go bottle before buying an entire bottle. ---
**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2008, 8:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-4x-v2-1-extendo/13924/20 "2008-07-25T20:24:14Z")
Ill start a thread on ishine 2.0 4x sometime soon too! Its gonna be interesting to how it does compare to 2.1. However i never tried regular ishine, so cant compare on this note. I think Jim got a bottle of 2.0 too, and you are the only on with 2.1 as of now 🙂 [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-4x-v2-1-extendo/13924.md?page=2)