# Instant Shine and Alcohol **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 13, 2007, 4:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-and-alcohol/2022 "2007-02-13T16:11:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![birdman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/90ced4/32.png) [@birdman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/birdman)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2007, 4:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-and-alcohol/2022/1 "2007-02-13T16:11:03Z")
How does having alcohol in your system affect your response to pheromones. I was wearing 6 sprays of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) the other night and I had had a fair bit to drink, but wasn’t drunk, on the way to tipsy… but pretty much didn’t notice any effect of 6 sprays of IS (which I thought was a lot, and wanted to see what would happen if I blew way over normal) all were to my neck or face, there may have been an effect on those around me, but I noticed no effect to myself, is that because of the alcohol, does alcohol diminish the effects of pheromones? ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2007, 4:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-and-alcohol/2022/2 "2007-02-13T16:36:30Z")
Not necessarily.. I find alcohol significantly intensifies the results of pheromones, by which I mean, my SO has stronger reactions if I am wearing pheromones, and HE has been drinking. I have NO self-effects from pheromones except when it come to copulins which we women use, or [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/), IF by mistake I spray it where it can affect me, so you may just be one of those people who will find others are affected by the pheromones you wear, rather than you, yourself. I could care less if I feel anything though, when I get the fantastic results I get when using pheromones with my SO, so it’s all good as far as I’m concerned. 🙂 Ail 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Matthew1982ct](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/matthew1982ct/32/1157_2.png) [@Matthew1982ct](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Matthew1982ct)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2007, 5:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-and-alcohol/2022/3 "2007-02-13T17:07:31Z")
Does change my experience much either; apart from the ways it would getting hammered by itself would affect me. As Ail I don’t have too many self-effects from -mones either. Matt ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 12:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-and-alcohol/2022/4 "2007-02-14T00:02:43Z")
My experience is drunken targets lose many of their “social filters” and react to [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) at a more primal level. ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 12:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-and-alcohol/2022/5 "2007-02-14T00:50:08Z")
It’s convenient, sometimes, to a have few very drunk people around. They will demonstrate to you the effect that you’re having. More sober people are able (by reason or will or due to inhibition) to suppress or minimize the response that the inebriated release. Doesn’t mean they’re not feeling it just as strong … ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 7:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-and-alcohol/2022/6 "2007-02-14T07:44:47Z")
What about -none side effects, are these increased by alcohol? ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 8:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-and-alcohol/2022/7 "2007-02-14T08:21:13Z")
> [@Phoenix](#): > > What about -none side effects, are these increased by alcohol? Alcohol is a depressant and disinhibitor; when you say “side effects”, are you talking about effects on oneself, effects on targets, effects on third parties who may be aggressive? Up to a point, in most circumstances, I’d say alcohol does not **increase** the effects, but may allow the individual to be _ **more expressive** _ of the effect. My point was that the effect is probably just as strong on the person who is not inebriated, even if they don’t show it. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 8:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-and-alcohol/2022/8 "2007-02-14T08:53:33Z")
> [@MarkL](#): > > Alcohol is a depressant and disinhibitor; when you say “side effects”, are you talking about effects on oneself, effects on targets, effects on third parties who may be aggressive? > > Up to a point, in most circumstances, I’d say alcohol does not **increase** the effects, but may allow the individual to be _ **more expressive** _ of the effect. My point was that the effect is probably just as strong on the person who is not inebriated, even if they don’t show it. I meant on third parties who may be aggressive in fact. ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 10:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-and-alcohol/2022/9 "2007-02-14T10:13:19Z")
No WAY are reactions as strong when alcohol is not involved! I’ve been wearing pheromones for years, and someone who has been drinking when affected by them, is virtually the polar opposite of someone who has not. Gegogi hit it on the head. Everything has a MUCH more primal feel to it, when alcohol is part of the equation. Ail 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 10:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-and-alcohol/2022/10 "2007-02-14T10:17:42Z")
I think I’ll restrain my carnival pheros to just one ammo spray, and I’ll be careful to wash it off so as not to have buildup the next day or two… edit: or just two sprays… ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 1:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-and-alcohol/2022/11 "2007-02-14T13:40:16Z")
When I got into the fight with that sicko in the sports bar last weekend, I was wearing shine, but it probably didn’t have as much of an affect as the ammo did on him. It was obvious he was drunk, I’m wondering if one affects the brain chemistry more than the other while drinking. ---
**Author:** ![djr04](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@djr04](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djr04)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 6:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-and-alcohol/2022/12 "2007-02-14T18:24:32Z")
I too have run into alpha males trying to defend their turf when I had ammo on and they were drunk. It was actually one of my roommates at my own house. I kept my cool and took him down when he started throwing stuff. Best of friends again the next day, but he doesn’t seem to act like the alpha male anymore. Moral of the story, Drunk guys can react badly to ammo.