# Instant Shine and depression: a returning US Marine's praise for it **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 24, 2009, 7:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-and-depression-a-returning-us-marines-praise-for-it/28354 "2009-04-24T19:15:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Dreamweaver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dreamweaver/32/2106_2.png) [@Dreamweaver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dreamweaver)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 7:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-and-depression-a-returning-us-marines-praise-for-it/28354/1 "2009-04-24T19:15:28Z")
Just another post in praise of **Instant Shine.** As you can see by my avatar, I was, up until recently a active member of the US Marines. Unless you’ve been in solitary confinement or from another planet, you may have noticed that we have been quite busy fighting to make the world a safer place. While you were sipping cocktails in your bars and pubs, getting laid or on the prowl to get laid. I was in charge of several US Marines at a time and can say that some paid for freedom with their life, some were not even old enough to legally buy themselves a beer in the US. Consider yourselves lucky. As a result of going from one battlefield to another, the endless and deadly patrols, fighting an invisible enemy, I have what’s known as Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD). And with PTSD comes depression, I have severe depression, as a result of the side effects of loosing close companions and Survivor’s Guilt. I believe among one of my first products purchased, was **Instant Shine.** A skeptic at the time, I gave myself 2 sprays from a to go 12.5 mcg. Lone behold, the stuff really works! I didn’t say it solved all my issues but has helped me along with coping skills aquired through counseling. The self effects are great, and as you know, plus people around me are happier, which rubs off on me. So, my dose is two sprays (12.5 mcg), usually in my hair or neck region, and I’m all set. I carry my to go bottle for refreshing. Any more than this dose, seems to conflict with the “Happy Pills” I take to keep depression in check and manage able. So, this stuff works as well as everyone or most everyone says. Lastly, a personal thanks to Andronics for this product and so many others that have helped make positive changes in my life. ---
**Author:** ![OoohYahhh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ooohyahhh/32/1274_2.png) [@OoohYahhh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OoohYahhh)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 9:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-and-depression-a-returning-us-marines-praise-for-it/28354/2 "2009-04-24T21:34:58Z")
Welcome Home! Like you, I **very** much appreciate the gift that Androtics and it’s people are to us. Over time, I have also come to love and respect the core people of this forum. What I have seen of you, I think you might also. One of the things that I have discovered here is that as long as one is willing to do the searches (few are) almost any subject related to [pheromones](https://a314.com/) and human behavior has been discussed in depth several times, (if not several dozen times) often by _very knowledgable_ people. As to PTSD, the longest thread to date was started Copycat. She is an EMT and was concerned about the emergency personel around her. > [@Soldiers and cops: PTSD](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/soldiers-and-cops-ptsd/19264): > > Hi all, I’m having a philosophic conversation in a class with a peer who has training in psychology and neurology. S/he says that PTSD is currently being treated as a physical problem rather than a metaphysical problem; medications are ineffective and these people need existential treatment. I’ve seen a lot of awful things on the ambulance and at crime scenes. It took awhile to learn to disconnect myself from the event. The key, for me, was to consider the elements independently. On arrival, … The other threads with a major emphasis on PTSD are: > [@Do pheromones help to overcome depressions?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromones-help-to-overcome-depressions/4761): > > I have a friend who is always in a state of depression and tried to commit suicide twice last year. Last night when I called her, she showed the symptoms. She used to come and stay with me for a few days and leave. But I also noticed that everytime she spent her time with me, she’s happy, very talkative (in nature she’s a quiet type), like to tease me and shows no signs of depression, but when she returns to her town, she becomes moody. I’m trying to figure it out if any of my [pheromones](https://a314.com/) could “… > [@Pheromones for Sleep Issues](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-sleep-issues/24410): > > Hey all, This will be the end of my first week using pheromones and I have to report that they seem to be working. Not quite sure how just yet and I am still learning to read hits. I do however seem to feel self effects on most products I’ve tried thus far. A314, [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) 2x, and Turn up The Heat smells real good. Anyways, I was wondering does anybody have experience with using pheromones to promote better sleep? If so which ones and what’s your technique? I have tried everything any… > [@Alexithymia... a no-mood disorder that's turning up...](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alexithymia-a-no-mood-disorder-thats-turning-up/5417): > > Once the distortions are cleared away, most patients who come to the emergency room tell stories that seem to grow out of the problems they claim to have and the pain they claim to feel. These stories reverberate with emotions congruent to their themes. But occasionally, patients who clearly have problems and are in great emotional pain tell noncongruent stories. They will insist that they have no problems, that life is fine and that they have no idea what is wrong. Their story is that they have… We are fortunate to have a great many medical professionals in this community. Some of them are very advanced researchers, some are everyday practicioners, and every other possibility in between, in both physical and psychological medicine. So far the references posted on this forum that seem to apply to PTSD have been posted by our friend PheroQuirk. > [@anxiety - apprehension vs arousal](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anxiety-apprehension-vs-arousal/3962): > > Brain activity reflects differences in types of anxiety Diana Yates, Life Sciences Editor 217-333-5802; [diya@uiuc.edu](mailto:diya@uiuc.edu) Released 5/29/07 [http://www.news.uiuc.edu/WebsandThumbs/Miller-Heller/miller-heller\_w.jpg](http://www.news.uiuc.edu/WebsandThumbs/Miller-Heller/miller-heller_b.jpg) Click photo to enlarge Photo by L. Brian Stauffer UI psychology professors Gregory A. Miller and Wendy Heller were co-principal in… > [@some cool evo psych papers](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-cool-evo-psych-papers/4559): > > with several of theses topics, there is obviously a link to mone use… [The emotion of anxiety is associated with the anticipation of harm (a negative outcome, aversive stimulation, punishment, frus](http://www.johnprice.me.uk/assets/jp/001/htm/publications/dialogues1.htm) Evolutionary aspects of anxiety disorders John S. Price, D.M. Danger and harm are avoided by strategic decisions made at all three levels of the triune forebrain: rational (neomammalian), emotional (paleomammalian) and instinctive (reptilian). This applies also to potential harm from conspecifics… > [@some cool evo psych papers](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-cool-evo-psych-papers/4559): > > with several of theses topics, there is obviously a link to mone use… [The emotion of anxiety is associated with the anticipation of harm (a negative outcome, aversive stimulation, punishment, frus](http://www.johnprice.me.uk/assets/jp/001/htm/publications/dialogues1.htm) Evolutionary aspects of anxiety disorders John S. Price, D.M. Danger and harm are avoided by strategic decisions made at all three levels of the triune forebrain: rational (neomammalian), emotional (paleomammalian) and instinctive (reptilian). This applies also to potential harm from conspecifics… There is regular drumbeat of comments about how pheros have improved peoples lives. The first two that come to my mind are by Visionary and River: > [@How have YOU used mones to create a more attractive lifestyle ('to be a better man')?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-have-you-used-mones-to-create-a-more-attractive-lifestyle-to-be-a-better-man/27339): > > YouTube - Robbie Williams Obviously there are direct advantages to using mones in the pickup situation. However the reality is that mones on their own can only do so much and mainly ‘enhance’ what is already there between you and a girl. So how have YOU used the mones to create a more attractive lifestyle (‘to be a better man’)? A more attractive lifestyle may be way harder to obtain than slapping on some mones and going to a nightclub but the rewards in terms of quality (and quantity if that… > [@New phero diet plan?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-phero-diet-plan/19841): > > Ok, maybe the title’s a little deceiving…but I have lost 7 pounds since I’ve started using pheros over a month ago. Coincidence…I don’t think so. Do I think they alone make you lose weight? I don’t think so. However I do think they can be an important part of your self-image that can affect your weight. Let me explain myself a little… For example, imagine a woman, slightly overweight, caught in a slump, feeling kind of dowdy, feels slightly depressed, “forgot” to care about what she looks … Oh, and check this out. (Like you’re not crosseyed by now. lol) [deviantART: where ART meets application!](http://www.deviantart.com/)# [http://th04.deviantart.com/fs43/300W/f/2009/114/7/5/paparazzzzi\_by\_ByLaauraa.jpg](http://th04.deviantart.com/fs43/300W/f/2009/114/7/5/paparazzzzi_by_ByLaauraa.jpg) (Does this look like our Happykitsune?) Whatever you’re into they have it. I know you jarheads say it’s forever, but get yourself a nice avatar. Welcome back to the real world! ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 2:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-and-depression-a-returning-us-marines-praise-for-it/28354/3 "2009-04-25T02:08:35Z")
Glad IS helped you Dreamweaver. Just be aware most of us tend to acclimate to mone use and experience gradually fading self-effects. So you don’t want to depend on it as surefire relief. I don’t feel a damn thing but find TAA helps take the edge off NPA and A314 for my targets, so I use it regularly. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 11:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-and-depression-a-returning-us-marines-praise-for-it/28354/4 "2009-04-25T11:02:31Z")
Welcome home, and thank you for your service and your sacrifices. TAA/[Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) works well for me, and has been what I turned to in two different major periods of grieving so far. It’s not perfect by itself, but it takes the edge off. Looks like I’m gonna need it again soon, too. ---
**Author:** ![Dreamweaver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dreamweaver/32/2106_2.png) [@Dreamweaver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dreamweaver)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 3:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-and-depression-a-returning-us-marines-praise-for-it/28354/5 "2009-04-25T15:49:19Z")
> [@OoohYahhh](#): > > Welcome Home! > > Like you, I **very** much appreciate the gift that Androtics and it’s people are to us. > > Over time, I have also come to love and respect the core people of this forum. What I have seen of you, I think you might also. > > One of the things that I have discovered here is that as long as one is willing to do the searches (few are) almost any subject related to pheromones and human behavior has been discussed in depth several times, (if not several dozen times) often by _very knowledgable_ people. > > As to PTSD, the longest thread to date was started Copycat. She is an EMT and was concerned about the emergency personel around her. > [Soldiers and cops: PTSD](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/soldiers-and-cops-ptsd/19264) > > The other threads with a major emphasis on PTSD are: > > [Do pheromones help to overcome depressions?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromones-help-to-overcome-depressions/4761) > > [Pheromones for Sleep Issues](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-sleep-issues/24410) > > [Alexithymia... a no-mood disorder that's turning up...](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alexithymia-a-no-mood-disorder-thats-turning-up/5417) > > We are fortunate to have a great many medical professionals in this community. Some of them are very advanced researchers, some are everyday practicioners, and every other possibility in between, in both physical and psychological medicine. > > So far the references posted on this forum that seem to apply to PTSD have been posted by our friend PheroQuirk. > > [anxiety - apprehension vs arousal](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anxiety-apprehension-vs-arousal/3962) > > [some cool evo psych papers](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-cool-evo-psych-papers/4559) > > [some cool evo psych papers](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-cool-evo-psych-papers/4559) > > There is regular drumbeat of comments about how pheros have improved peoples lives. The first two that come to my mind are by Visionary and River: > > [How have YOU used mones to create a more attractive lifestyle ('to be a better man')?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-have-you-used-mones-to-create-a-more-attractive-lifestyle-to-be-a-better-man/27339) > > [New phero diet plan?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-phero-diet-plan/19841) > > Oh, and check this out. (Like you’re not crosseyed by now. lol) > > [deviantART: where ART meets application!](http://www.deviantart.com/)# > > [http://th04.deviantart.com/fs43/300W/f/2009/114/7/5/paparazzzzi\_by\_ByLaauraa.jpg](http://th04.deviantart.com/fs43/300W/f/2009/114/7/5/paparazzzzi_by_ByLaauraa.jpg) > > (Does this look like our Happykitsune?) > > Whatever you’re into they have it. I know you jarheads say it’s forever, but get yourself a nice avatar. > > Welcome back to the real world! Firstly would like to thank you for your reply. The links provided are also must reads for anyone with depression and or PTSD, or perhaps low self esteem. If your reading this post and have either, remeber your not alone! PTSD, Depression and Low sefl esteem can effect **anyone** who has had a traumatic situation or series of negative experiences and the list goes into infinity. I’m incorporating the information provied in ths reply to my daily life. Remeber if your suffering; alcohol is **NOT YOUR FRIEND!** ALCOHOL IS A DEPRESSANT! I’m just as cool sitting in a pub, night club or local bar sipping non-alcoholic beverages. Your friends will have to accept you for who you are, if not, then they do not deserve you or your friendship. Move on, your a great person and there’s only one of you, don’t be ashamed to get help if need be, you owe it to yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Dreamweaver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dreamweaver/32/2106_2.png) [@Dreamweaver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dreamweaver)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 3:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-and-depression-a-returning-us-marines-praise-for-it/28354/6 "2009-04-25T15:57:37Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Glad IS helped you Dreamweaver. Just be aware most of us tend to acclimate to mone use and experience gradually fading self-effects. So you don’t want to depend on it as surefire relief. I don’t feel a damn thing but find TAA helps take the edge off NPA and A314 for my targets, so I use it regularly. Thank you Gegogi. I have studied your posts and threads endlessly. I have enjoyed reading what you have to sayas your straight forward. I bought TAA and A314 based on your personal experience and recommendations, and use both quite a bit. The pheromones, like the pills will only be 10%, the other 90% will be up to me. Coping with my small, short lived set back; the pills counseling have about the same ratio. Like the pheromones, things need to be started out conservatively and ramped up until you reach od level then back off. It’s about knowing your limitations and finding a good starting point. Unlike pheromones, I can keep reaching for higher ground. Thank you for being a friend and shareing your experiences here, you’ve been a guiding light in my journey. ---
**Author:** ![Dreamweaver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dreamweaver/32/2106_2.png) [@Dreamweaver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dreamweaver)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 3:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-and-depression-a-returning-us-marines-praise-for-it/28354/7 "2009-04-25T15:59:27Z")
a journey of a 1000 miles begins with a single step! If your suffering, please get some help. ---
**Author:** ![Dreamweaver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dreamweaver/32/2106_2.png) [@Dreamweaver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dreamweaver)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 4:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-and-depression-a-returning-us-marines-praise-for-it/28354/8 "2009-04-25T16:01:08Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > Welcome home, and thank you for your service and your sacrifices. > > TAA/Instant Shine works well for me, and has been what I turned to in two different major periods of grieving so far. It’s not perfect by itself, but it takes the edge off. Looks like I’m gonna need it again soon, too. Thanks catlord for your own sacrifices and your service. And for your advise. You too have been a guiding light on my pheromones journey! ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 3:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-and-depression-a-returning-us-marines-praise-for-it/28354/9 "2009-07-09T03:37:25Z")
> [@OoohYahhh](#): > > Welcome Home! > > Like you, I **very** much appreciate the gift that Androtics and it’s people are to us. > > Over time, I have also come to love and respect the core people of this forum. What I have seen of you, I think you might also. > > One of the things that I have discovered here is that as long as one is willing to do the searches (few are) almost any subject related to pheromones and human behavior has been discussed in depth several times, (if not several dozen times) often by _very knowledgable_ people. > > As to PTSD, the longest thread to date was started Copycat. She is an EMT and was concerned about the emergency personel around her. > [Soldiers and cops: PTSD](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/soldiers-and-cops-ptsd/19264) > > The other threads with a major emphasis on PTSD are: > > [Do pheromones help to overcome depressions?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromones-help-to-overcome-depressions/4761) > > [Pheromones for Sleep Issues](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-sleep-issues/24410) > > [Alexithymia... a no-mood disorder that's turning up...](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/alexithymia-a-no-mood-disorder-thats-turning-up/5417) > > We are fortunate to have a great many medical professionals in this community. Some of them are very advanced researchers, some are everyday practicioners, and every other possibility in between, in both physical and psychological medicine. > > So far the references posted on this forum that seem to apply to PTSD have been posted by our friend PheroQuirk. > > [anxiety - apprehension vs arousal](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anxiety-apprehension-vs-arousal/3962) > > [some cool evo psych papers](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-cool-evo-psych-papers/4559) > > [some cool evo psych papers](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/some-cool-evo-psych-papers/4559) > > There is regular drumbeat of comments about how pheros have improved peoples lives. The first two that come to my mind are by Visionary and River: > > [How have YOU used mones to create a more attractive lifestyle ('to be a better man')?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-have-you-used-mones-to-create-a-more-attractive-lifestyle-to-be-a-better-man/27339) > > [New phero diet plan?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-phero-diet-plan/19841) > > Oh, and check this out. (Like you’re not crosseyed by now. lol) > > [deviantART: where ART meets application!](http://www.deviantart.com/)# > > [http://th04.deviantart.com/fs43/300W/f/2009/114/7/5/paparazzzzi\_by\_ByLaauraa.jpg](http://th04.deviantart.com/fs43/300W/f/2009/114/7/5/paparazzzzi_by_ByLaauraa.jpg) > > (Does this look like our Happykitsune?) > > Whatever you’re into they have it. I know you jarheads say it’s forever, but get yourself a nice avatar. > > Welcome back to the real world! Lol, I was just doing a search of my name and found this haha. Kinda does look like me…ish lol ---
**Author:** ![Juche](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e495f1/32.png) [@Juche](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Juche)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 3:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-and-depression-a-returning-us-marines-praise-for-it/28354/10 "2009-07-09T03:59:15Z")
Things like EMDR, beta blockers and neurofeedback are showing promise for PTSD. [EMDR for PTSD](http://www.healthyplace.com/depression/emdr/emdr-for-ptsd/menu-id-68/) [Beta Blockers May Dull Trauma-Related Fear](http://health.dailynewscentral.com/content/view/1397/63) [Feature - Coping with the Horrors of War: Doctor believes neurofeedback may provide relief for service members suffering ill effects from combat](http://www.citamn.afrc.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123109052) ---
**Author:** ![saturns\_dream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@saturns\_dream](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/saturns_dream)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2009, 3:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-and-depression-a-returning-us-marines-praise-for-it/28354/11 "2009-08-13T15:45:19Z")
i feel instant shine helps with depression a little bit too ---
**Author:** ![dragonfly44](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dragonfly44/32/493_2.png) [@dragonfly44](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dragonfly44)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2009, 3:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-and-depression-a-returning-us-marines-praise-for-it/28354/12 "2009-08-13T15:50:08Z")
> [@Dreamweaver](#): > > Just another post in praise of **Instant Shine.** > > As you can see by my avatar, I was, up until recently a active member of the US Marines. Semper fi, dreamweaver. Thank you for being a Marine and serving our country. My late husband was a Marine in the evacuation of Saigon and was very, very proud to be a Marine. He died a few months ago from heart disease, but he was Corp to the end. I wish you the best of luck.