# Instant Shine/Honesty/Openness with no scent **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 10, 2008, 4:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-honesty-openness-with-no-scent/13739 "2008-06-10T04:51:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![acop2cuffu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8491ac/32.png) [@acop2cuffu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/acop2cuffu)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2008, 4:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-honesty-openness-with-no-scent/13739/1 "2008-06-10T04:51:44Z")
**I have red on here that the products that are unscented cold really stink…I under that would happen with nones…however what about [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/)/Honesty/Openness…due the unscented versions of each one tend to smell** ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2008, 10:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-honesty-openness-with-no-scent/13739/2 "2008-06-10T10:08:39Z")
[Unscented pheromone](https://a314.com/product-category/stealth-unfragranced/) products merely lack added EO or perfume. They still retain their natural scent (as well as the scent of alcohol or oil). For example, pure chemset androstenone smells like a mingling of essence of hog, cat tinkle and armpit. Do you know where pheromones come from? Well, they hail from the most moist and stinky parts of human bodies: crotch, pits, ass and mouth. And, yes, your urine, feces, sweat and saliva are rich in pheromones. So, yeah, artificial pheromones smell like they’re supposed to: pee, ass, pit and crotch. Cool, huh? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2008, 1:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-honesty-openness-with-no-scent/13739/3 "2008-06-10T13:05:05Z")
Unscented [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and Instant Honesty smell like musty stinky feet. TAA or Instant Shine has a chemical smell I cant really describe by a bodily function LOL Keep in mind that the reason they use neroli is because it is highly diffusive. If you cant achieve diffusion the pheromones wont work. > [@](#): > > Do you know where pheromones come from? Well, they hail from the most moist and stinky parts of human bodies: crotch, pits, ass and mouth. And, yes, your urine, feces, sweat and saliva are rich in pheromones. So, yeah, artificial pheromones smell like they’re supposed to: pee, ass, pit and crotch. Cool, huh? LOL you crack me up, but it is the truth, of course these are synthetic. Jasmin wont stand still with the cup long enough to collect sweat from a guys ass crack so Michael had to go synthetic . Tisha ---
**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2008, 2:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-honesty-openness-with-no-scent/13739/4 "2008-06-10T14:13:00Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Keep in mind that the reason they use neroli is because it is highly diffusive. If you cant achieve diffusion the pheromones wont work. Tisha, you don’t need every product to be neroli based right? If you are using several products and most are unscented then you cover your last with say instant shine that should do the trick for diffusion? I just ordered instant openness unscented, and i do not smell anything but the alcholol. I really prefer this compared to the regular smell of [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/). Most times when I order putatives or experimones I also order unfragrance as well otherwise I am smelling neroli too much. So am I correct as long as at least one product covering has at least neroli then it will help with diffusion with all the other unfragranced products? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2008, 2:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-honesty-openness-with-no-scent/13739/5 "2008-06-10T14:39:37Z")
Hmmm that is a good question and to tell you the truth I don’t know the answer but I will find out and get back to you. Of course your going to naturally diffuse some of the product yourself without the aid of another scent. After all you do this with naturally produced mones. You just want to go for the best possible effect since your spending money and we need to look at all the possibilities and options. Do you use a cologne cover with them ? If you do and its diffusive that will do it. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2008, 2:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-honesty-openness-with-no-scent/13739/6 "2008-06-10T14:42:55Z")
Hi Tisha, Yes I usually do use a cologne, though I am not sure if it is diffusive, how would one know know if it is? Currently the two colognes I own is Acqua di Gio, and Sexual pour homme Though with my last order I got Ammo w/ Game scent, and I been using that as my cologne cover along with [MX203](https://a314.com/product/mx203/) as my daily applicant ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2008, 3:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-honesty-openness-with-no-scent/13739/7 "2008-06-10T15:18:29Z")
Whew Sexual pour homme is great, that will work fine to diffuse. > [@](#): > > The notes include mandarin, grapefruit, bergamot, lavender, green oak moss and “a blend of aphrodisiacs so complex, that it is never to be revealed”. As long as you using something to aid diffusion and not just wearing straight pheromones it should be fine. I feel even covering with neroli [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) would help but I want to be sure before I say Yes it will diffuse the others or not. Oh a easy way to test diffusion is to spray it on a warm towel (just out of the dryer will do) walk out of the room, sniff a can of coffee for a minute then walk back in the room. The coffee clears the scent from your nose so it will be like smelling it for the first time when you return. You can kinda see how far the fragrance will travel by approaching the towel slowly. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2008, 4:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-honesty-openness-with-no-scent/13739/8 "2008-06-10T16:17:44Z")
The thing is I am not sure if I would mix ammo w/ game with another cologne like Sexual I find when I mix two colonge products the scent sometimes clash or become overpowering. So if my application does not use [MX203](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx203/) or Ammo I would use say Sexual, but on days I would like to use MX203 and Ammo I do not plan on using other colognes so if you can find out those answers for me that would be great! I have actually received good compliments from the scent of MX203 ---
**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2008, 4:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-honesty-openness-with-no-scent/13739/9 "2008-06-10T16:31:34Z")
here is an example of what I use: 2 drops A314 3 sprays Instant Openness (unfragranced) 1 spray Instant Honesty 3 spray Instant shine 50 mcg P74 (unfgrgranced) 12.5 mcg P123 (unfragranced) 3 sprays MX203 2 sprays Ammo w/game or 2 drops A314 1 drop Raw Power 3 sprays Instant Openness (unfragranced) 1 spray Instant Honesty 3 spray Instant shine 2 sprays [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) 20 mcg meo-est (neroli) 20 mcg TAC (neroli) 5 mcg TAL (unfragranced) 5 mcg TAH (unfragranced) Cover with Either Acqua di Gio or Sexual pour Homme I make sure the cologne or the neroli is covering the application points with the unfragrance pheros ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2008, 5:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-honesty-openness-with-no-scent/13739/10 "2008-06-10T17:12:41Z")
Ok Yes you can cover a [unscented pheromone](https://a314.com/product-category/stealth-unfragranced/) products with a scented one if you feel the cover is adequate. It will help in diffusion but it wont be the same in strength of hits as you see with the scented formulas. Like I mentioned wearing a diffusive cologne with it will take care of that. This is what Michael has to say about scented and unscented > [@](#): > > Unscented will never work as cleanly as scented, especially with our specially designed scent packages. > > Think of scented like an “automatic” vehicle, or better, a taxi cab… that just takes you where you want to go, without much fuss or muss. > > Unscented , you have to take care of many details yourself – diffusion, sillage, release time, etc. They’re “manual”, and not appropriate for beginners or those looking for convenience. They mentioned lightly scented would be better and some products have that option. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2008, 5:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-honesty-openness-with-no-scent/13739/11 "2008-06-10T17:37:37Z")
Thanks Tisha for all your help, So you dont think the scent of Game is good enough for diffusion? I am just not sure if sexual and game go well together, that is my main worry. I am so worried about overscenting. Becuase i have overscented with neroli before and gotten comments from people at work in the past. The problem is i like both scents, but I really like Game much better, i am getting much more compliments from Game from women then Sexual and seem to get more hits from MX203 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2008, 10:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-honesty-openness-with-no-scent/13739/12 "2008-06-10T22:09:42Z")
If you having good results with Game and you like it thats the one you should get. Then you can use that to cover whatever is unscented or smelly. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2008, 11:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-honesty-openness-with-no-scent/13739/13 "2008-06-10T23:42:50Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > If you having good results with Game and you like it thats the one you should get. Then you can use that to cover whatever is unscented or smelly. > > Tisha Thanks Tisha for all your help for a test today i decided to test the following: 2 drops A314 - 1 behind ears, 1 jawline 3 sprays [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) unscented - wrists, neck, throat 2 sprays Instant Shine - wrist - throat 3 sprays MX203 - wrists, neck, throat, 2 sprays Ammo w/ game - wrists, chest and covered with Sexual on wrists, chest/throat and behind neck, so was 3 squirts of the cologne total I found that the sexual cologne overpowered the Game scent. In fact I did not smell game scent after about an hour while the Sexual I am still smelling right now, and that was about 6 hours ago. I had to do some errands today including going to the doctor. When I went to doctor and sitting in the doctors office, I got tons of hits from every woman that walked in. I am not exaggerating. Probably the most hits I had in a long time in that short of a time. The receptionist was talking with me for a while while getting my paperwork, I guess because I was off and usually most men are at work, and more women in daytime, there were tons of women there today. I got 3 smiles as soon as they walked in. When I went in to see the doctor she would not stop talking to me.