# Instant Shine - how do I get the best out of it??? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 20, 2010, 6:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-how-do-i-get-the-best-out-of-it/39440 "2010-06-20T18:10:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Banoonoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e99b99/32.png) [@Banoonoo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Banoonoo)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 6:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-how-do-i-get-the-best-out-of-it/39440/1 "2010-06-20T18:10:36Z")
Okay I want to say straight out that my main motivation for using Instant Shine is the self effect - pure and simple. Now I tried it the day before yesterday and the result seemed pretty good however yesterday not so good which got me to thinking whether it worked or whether it was merely placebo. I’m now considering whether to give my free [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) sample a shot or stick with Instant Shine? Seriously how do I get the best out of it. Thoughts please. Cheers. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![hoplessly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hoplessly/32/2319_2.png) [@hoplessly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hoplessly)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 6:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-how-do-i-get-the-best-out-of-it/39440/2 "2010-06-20T18:49:44Z")
test how many sprays did you apply yesterday? how many did you apply today? ---
**Author:** ![Banoonoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e99b99/32.png) [@Banoonoo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Banoonoo)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 7:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-how-do-i-get-the-best-out-of-it/39440/3 "2010-06-20T19:24:08Z")
> [@hoplessly](#): > > test > > how many sprays did you apply yesterday? > > how many did you apply today? 1 spray yesterday and the day before and none today yet but literally about to! ---
**Author:** ![hoplessly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hoplessly/32/2319_2.png) [@hoplessly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hoplessly)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 7:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-how-do-i-get-the-best-out-of-it/39440/4 "2010-06-20T19:30:46Z")
try two or three. personally I love IS. When I first got it I abused it lol. I usually have a base of two sprays of IS with other socials but I also reapply IS throughout the day. ---
**Author:** ![Banoonoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e99b99/32.png) [@Banoonoo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Banoonoo)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 8:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-how-do-i-get-the-best-out-of-it/39440/5 "2010-06-20T20:43:54Z")
> [@hoplessly](#): > > try two or three. > > personally I love IS. When I first got it I abused it lol. > > I usually have a base of two sprays of IS with other socials but I also reapply IS throughout the day. You do? Mm well I’m really confused as to what its effect is. When I smell the sent that gives me a little buzz but save for that I really don’t know. I’ll knock it up to two sprays tomorrow. Where do you spray?? I spray on the neck. ---
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2010, 3:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-how-do-i-get-the-best-out-of-it/39440/6 "2010-06-21T03:43:02Z")
> [@Banoonoo](#): > > You do? Mm well I’m really confused as to what its effect is. When I smell the sent that gives me a little buzz but save for that I really don’t know. > > I’ll knock it up to two sprays tomorrow. > > Where do you spray?? I spray on the neck. I spray 2 on my neck and 2 in my hair when I’m outside in the hot sun…the hair is a fantanstic way to slow down the diffusion. But the self effects I don’t feel anymore per say…you can get immune to it, but it still effects others. ---
**Author:** ![hillke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@hillke](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hillke)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2010, 4:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-how-do-i-get-the-best-out-of-it/39440/7 "2010-06-21T04:10:23Z")
It’s true, if you use it often enough you wont feel it anymore. It then becomes a question of how do you want to use [pheromones](https://a314.com/), for yourself or targets around you. To continue the self effects, you will need to lay off every few days so you don’t develop a long term immunity. Personally, my take on the mones is that my biggest boost comes from the reaction of people around me. There is no better feeling than knowing a cute girl is interested and genuinely talking with me. I remember the first day I had it, I kept smelling my forearm because is smelled so darn good and made me feel the same. (I attribute the intensity of the smell to the self effect) ---
**Author:** ![extremetestosterone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ea5d25/32.png) [@extremetestosterone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/extremetestosterone)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2010, 7:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-how-do-i-get-the-best-out-of-it/39440/8 "2010-06-21T07:09:47Z")
> [@](#): > > the hair is a fantanstic way to slow down the diffusion. I definately agree with this. My results are much more noticable and prolonged when I spray it in my hair. After a while you should try it with A314. That combo is badass!!! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2010, 9:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-how-do-i-get-the-best-out-of-it/39440/9 "2010-06-21T09:20:20Z")
The best dosage is the amount that works for you and you have to experiment with it to find that. With Ishine its usually falls in between 3 to 5 sprays. Only about half the users ever get self effects from pheromones. When they do its short lived. You can rotate them to get try to maintain those feelings but usually its not as prominent as when you first used them. The way to get the most from a [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) is to use it as it was intended. To signal those around you with information about you. This is what pheromones do. Just like you dont notice your own natural pheromones you will eventually not notice the effects of synthetic ones. They just become part of your signature. Its like caffeine, The first few times you have it it can give you a big energy boost but then your body adjusts and you dont get that boost anymore. You could drink even more but thats not a good thing because it can over stimulate and burn out your neurotransmitters causing a crash and burn effect. The only way to gage if your getting a placebo effect is to pay attention to the behavior of those around you and look for changes. Not just more interaction with you but patterns of behavior. Ishine is not always as obvious as something like AMMO or IO but once you have your dosage and you pay attention you do see the effects. For instance… My boss is a prick to everyone. Doesn’t matter what day it is or whats going on. When I wear Ishine his whole attitude changes though. He is nice, smiles more, interacts more with me and those around me and tends to hang around me chatting like a normal human instead of a a-hole. This is a drastic case though because he is always such a ass you can really notice a difference to the point that other employees will bug me to use my Ishine when they see him coming. They notice it to. With others you will see more of a effect like I described here \>\>\>\> > [@Instant Shine and Women](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-and-women/39439): > > Anyone here would like to comment on the self effect of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) on Women. Does it increase extrovertism/ feel good / minor confidence boost / nonchalance just like it does in men ? IMO Ishine is one of the best all round products they have here. Its good in almost every situation. Its great as a stand alone and also great for steering other mixes in certain directions. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Coach](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coach/32/2317_2.png) [@Coach](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Coach)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2010, 10:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-how-do-i-get-the-best-out-of-it/39440/10 "2010-06-21T10:52:24Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Its like caffeine, The first few times you have it it can give you a big energy boost but then your body adjusts and you dont get that boost anymore. You could drink even more but thats not a good thing because it can over stimulate and burn out your neurotransmitters causing a crash and burn effect. How accurate is that caffeine comparison though? A person who drinks coffee on a regular basis will feel pretty down when going without it for a couple of days. Does anyone experience these withdrawal-type of feelings when going without instant shine? To put it more bluntly: will you feel worse when stopping to use IS than before you even started? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2010, 11:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-how-do-i-get-the-best-out-of-it/39440/11 "2010-06-21T11:02:56Z")
As accurate as I can be without going all science on ya LOL Yes there have been quite a few crash reports after Ishine wears off. General feeling of being tired and headaches, the body adjusts though and it doesnt cause lasting effects this way. It doesnt last as long as a few days like caffeine, more like a few hours but they both have similar effects on the neurotransmitters. Most of the hard core long time users of pheromones make sure to eat healthy and get adaquate rest to combat that. Its not harmful to the brain its just annoying. Your neurotransmitters will replenish. Eventually your body adjusts hence no self effects. Some members dont get these self effects at all just like some people are not bothered by caffeine at all. Some reports… > [@The pheromone crash - how to fend it off](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-pheromone-crash-how-to-fend-it-off/36406): > > I’ve read a few posts from people saying they have a crash after using [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/). This isn’t something I’ve experienced blatantly (ie. there are always other contributory factors that could be responsible when I have felt it a bit, like a late night, or a sugar crash) but I thought I’d have a look into it a little. One thing people speculate is that it is because your neurotransmitters need time to recover / replenish - this is especially true where people have worn a high mcg of some products… > [@TAA & Instant Shine with P74](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taa-instant-shine-with-p74/25918): > > One combination I have found to be miraculous is the [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) + p74 pair. I recently received an order of 10mcg/spray p74, and I’m debating whether to get IS or TAA. I have heard that TAA reduces some of the headaches that come along with Instant Shine, but does this sacrifice some of its potency? The best (absolutely absurd) hits with the p74/IShine combo have come with seemingly OD-levels, which is why I was considering the 4x Instant Shine. However, for a comparable price Androtics offe… > [@Instant Shine caused my head to explode!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-caused-my-head-to-explode/19295): > > hi all. has anybody experienced headaches when using instant shine or any other products for that matter. after two days of use i have had a headache for about 2 hours after each application. do you think that its the phero’s or what they are mixed with? thanks > [@Instant shine compared to taa sans the brain splitting pain](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-compared-to-taa-sans-the-brain-splitting-pain/9205): > > I recently picked up a taa 5mcg. strength to see if taa was my migraine culprit in instant shine. And nope it isn’t! I loved the taa self affects I felt uplifted and caught myself overly feeling good for what is going on in my life several times. I applied about 30 mcg. and was expecting to experience one hell of a migraine and nada. I was bebopping along to the music in my truck, happy go lucky to cart my lil sister around and generally in a great! mood. It has been hours and I’m still fee… It can occur with other molecules as well but Ishine seems to be the one most mentioned. > [@Anyone notice Headache with certain PHERMONES?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anyone-notice-headache-with-certain-phermones/796): > > … I don’t know if I should blame [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) directly for the HEADACHEs I am getting lately. Probably its because of using it everyday, the different kind of pheromones or is it just something else. anyone notice any kind of headaches with any certain type of phermones of regular use… Is it the NONEz, Nolz, Ronz, … feedback would be appreciated on this topic. Haven’t seen this being discussed so I was assuming I am the only particular case so its very difficult to link my headache to pheromones… > [@Darn It ! - "Clean the house mix", anyone?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/darn-it-clean-the-house-mix-anyone/2648): > > I have to clean the house. frowning There should be a mix that makes you like doing this or at least want to. I just hate it. The [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) makes it a little fun but I still dont want to do it. LOL Oh well I guess I will get it over with. Tisha Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Banoonoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e99b99/32.png) [@Banoonoo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Banoonoo)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2010, 3:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-how-do-i-get-the-best-out-of-it/39440/12 "2010-06-21T15:13:44Z")
Tisha, so I’ve done 1 spray on my neck of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) for 3 days in a row. Do you suggest I now lay off it for a week or so? As it happens I won’t be out and about generally for the next few weeks so it won’t matter or should I give it one last blast as I’ll be out today? Cheers. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2010, 4:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-how-do-i-get-the-best-out-of-it/39440/13 "2010-06-21T16:05:52Z")
> [@Banoonoo](#): > > Tisha, so I’ve done 1 spray on my neck of Instant Shine for 3 days in a row. Do you suggest I now lay off it for a week or so? As it happens I won’t be out and about generally for the next few weeks so it won’t matter or should I give it one last blast as I’ll be out today? Cheers. Well if your not going to be in contact with people then why waste it. Save it for when your interacting with people. I gotta say 1 spray is not much though. I use 3 to 4 myself of the regular strength. I even have Ishine in 2X 4X 8X. The high dose ones I just use less. If your going out today try 3 sprays. See how you feel with that much. I take breaks from using all my mones usually a day or two a week. More if I am feeling overly tired. Tisha