# Instant Shine + Instant Openness **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Journals\ **Created:** [August 1, 2011, 5:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-instant-openness/51557 "2011-08-01T05:49:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BabyN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@BabyN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BabyN)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2011, 5:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-instant-openness/51557/1 "2011-08-01T05:49:56Z")
I received these [pheromones](https://a314.com/) a few days ago I sprayed 1x IS and 1x IO on my wrists. Rubbed my wrists together and applied on my neck. I feel… normal. I wasn’t extra cheerful or anything and I was still moody every now and then.. (I was hoping this would change with IS) I didnt notice anything different from the people around me either. In fact my conversations with my close friends were different. I was more quiet and couldn’t think of anything to say. I feel like the mones have backfired me. Can anybody suggest anything that I should do differently? I really believe that these mones would be helpful and probably my methods are wrong.. ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2011, 6:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-instant-openness/51557/2 "2011-08-01T06:53:09Z")
> [@BabyN](#): > > I received these pheromones a few days ago > > I sprayed 1x IS and 1x IO on my wrists. Rubbed my wrists together and applied on my neck. > > I feel… normal. I wasn’t extra cheerful or anything and I was still moody every now and then.. (I was hoping this would change with IS) > > I didnt notice anything different from the people around me either. In fact my conversations with my close friends were different. I was more quiet and couldn’t think of anything to say. > > I feel like the mones have backfired me. Can anybody suggest anything that I should do differently? I really believe that these mones would be helpful and probably my methods are wrong.. First of all the mones are not gonna make you cheerful. The mones are not gonna do the work for you. You need to be inline with the purpose of the mones. Put yourself in a positive frame of mind and **then** spray - they enhance and facilitate - they DO NOT replace effort on your part. You sprayed and stayed silent? Put yourself in a frame of mind that’s sociable and these will HELP facilitate people responding to you. Were you upbeat? Were you _smiling_, _at the very least_? Why would anyone approach someone with a sullen look on their face? How would someone approach a stranger or even an acquaintance \*if the look on your face is moody? \* Your friends are going to be harder to respond to the mones - especially if you’re not changing anything in a positive manner. They know you and have specific ideas on who you are, how you operate and so on. They will be the last to acknowledge the changes in you. BUT YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE EFFORT. [How To Find Your Sweet Spot](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-your-sweet-spot/22146) Did you read this? Do so. Because firstly, if your in a down state unless you make the effort to do something about that it’s gonna be a waste of time and mones. Did you read any of the stickies or suggested links? If you did, I suggest you go back and re read them; if not - do that. Everyone is informed when they join the forum that the best approach is to test 1 (one) product at a time - so you develop a sense of what they do FOR YOU at different doses. You tried once, didn’t get inline with the mones and haven’t done anything since? Go and start with the sweet spot link. Get informed. Then do your own sweet spot testing. That’s why it’s called sweet spot testing. Don’t spray IO if you’re not feeling social and don’t intend to make an effort. Go test on strangers in a park or down your town. But DO something. ---
**Author:** ![BabyN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@BabyN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BabyN)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2011, 7:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-instant-openness/51557/3 "2011-08-01T07:40:14Z")
Yes Astrea, of course I wasn’t expecting the mones to take over my self being. I was looking out for any differences when using the mones such as enhancing what i already am. i’ve read that IS is sort of a mood enhancer, makes you feel happy and all. Thus, i was wondering why i wasn’t feeling like some of the people out there. I didn’t spray and stay silent. I was with my Close Friends. Logically, i feel comfortable and am able to strike conversations easier with this group of friends. However, I was feeling the opposite. I couldn’t think of anything to say and was very much not being myself. i am trying to get advises from people out there who are more experienced than me since i am just a newbie. if i don’t take any effort, i wouldnt even be posting this thread. > [@Astrea](#): > > First of all the mones are not gonna make you cheerful. The mones are not gonna do the work for you. You need to be inline with the purpose of the mones. Put yourself in a positive frame of mind and **then** spray - they enhance and facilitate - they DO NOT replace effort on your part. > > You sprayed and stayed silent? Put yourself in a frame of mind that’s sociable and these will HELP facilitate people responding to you. Were you upbeat? Were you _smiling_, _at the very least_? Why would anyone approach someone with a sullen look on their face? How would someone approach a stranger or even an acquaintance \*if the look on your face is moody? \* > Your friends are going to be harder to respond to the mones - especially if you’re not changing anything in a positive manner. They know you and have specific ideas on who you are, how you operate and so on. They will be the last to acknowledge the changes in you. BUT YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE EFFORT. > [How To Find Your Sweet Spot](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-instant-openness/51557/2) > Did you read this? Do so. Because firstly, if your in a down state unless you make the effort to do something about that it’s gonna be a waste of time and mones. Did you read any of the stickies or suggested links? If you did, I suggest you go back and re read them; if not - do that. > > Everyone is informed when they join the forum that the best approach is to test 1 (one) product at a time - so you develop a sense of what they do FOR YOU at different doses. You tried once, didn’t get inline with the mones and haven’t done anything since? > > Go and start with the sweet spot link. Get informed. Then do your own sweet spot testing. That’s why it’s called sweet spot testing. Don’t spray IO if you’re not feeling social and don’t intend to make an effort. Go test on strangers in a park or down your town. But DO something. ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2011, 8:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-instant-openness/51557/4 "2011-08-01T08:31:26Z")
> [@BabyN](#): > > Yes Astrea, of course I wasn’t expecting the mones to take over my self being. I was looking out for any differences when using the mones such as enhancing what i already am. > > i’ve read that IS is sort of a mood enhancer, makes you feel happy and all. Thus, i was wondering why i wasn’t feeling like some of the people out there. > > I didn’t spray and stay silent. I was with my Close Friends. Logically, i feel comfortable and am able to strike conversations easier with this group of friends. However, I was feeling the opposite. I couldn’t think of anything to say and was very much not being myself. > > i am trying to get advises from people out there who are more experienced than me since i am just a newbie. if i don’t take any effort, i wouldnt even be posting this thread. You said you ‘were still moody’; that doesn’t sound like you were making an effort. If you’re selfconscious to the point of stopping yourself from communicating - I don’t know what to say to that. One spray one time doesn’t tell you anything. Except maybe you’re too busy “looking” and being self conscious and not behaving in a natural manner. How is it you were with “Close Friends” and had nothing to say? It can’t MAKE you feel happy or anything at all - it’s an ENHANCER but you have to work with it. Go and do the sweet spot testing. One product at a time, with consistent doses for the recommended time. It still sounds like you were acting contradictory to what you were spraying. As I said, one time doesn’t give data, it gives the result of your first time. Be positive. Be upbeat. Moodiness is not going to do anything but contradict the mones and the mone signature will then be ignored because it doesn’t make sense. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2011, 9:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-instant-openness/51557/5 "2011-08-01T09:37:33Z")
BabyN Hi there, I know that one word on the bottle "Instant " can throw some people off but it takes a little longer then instantly sometimes. First you used both products at the same time. This is fine but when you start out you want to use one at a time to find your dosage for each one. If you dont you never really know which product is causing which reaction for you. You mentioned 1 spray of each. Unless you bought a higher concentration 1 spray usually wont do it for most people so dont worry about not noticing anything just yet. I use 3 to 4 sprays of Ishine and about 2 to 5 of IO. Wrists do have pulse points but are really not the best place to spray in my opinion. They just dont heat up well enough to diffuse the mones on some people. Try different application points. Maybe doing one spray split to wrists then another to the neck. I even give a shot to my hair once in a while. Dont judge the product by self effects. Pheromones work in the subconscious and your conscious of using them. Not everyone gets self effects. Pheromones are meant to signal those around you. > [@](#): > > I didnt notice anything different from the people around me either. In fact my conversations with my close friends were different. I was more quiet and couldn’t think of anything to say. This is common when starting out. Again your conscious of the mones and curious as to what they will do so it sort of puts you into observer mode. I know its hard but try to set them and forget them. Then at the end of the day take a few minutes to think back over the events of the day and determine if you saw anything different. It can take a few times trying before you start to pick up on things. Keep in mind that those close to you take a bit longer to respond. They are conditioned to act a certain way around you and it takes repeated exposure for them to begin reprocessing the signals. I always find that strangers give me the first indication of my mones working then those I know better slowly begin to show a behavior change. While congruence is something thats important you cant make yourself feel something you dont. I am more for not acting in opposition to the signal. For instance if your use Ishine your dont have to be upbeat warm and friendly. Just dont be cold mean and negative. Neutral is fine. Here are some links to help you get a better understanding of mones and how they work. You may have seen them but just in case you haven’t [What pheromones can and can't do: realistic expectations for newcomers](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-do-and-what-they-cant-updated/9558) > [@How to Test and Report On Products UPDATED 12/01](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-test-and-report-on-products-updated-12-01/6297): > > (At the bottom of this post I have included a small guide on how to find your sweet spot) It has occurred to me that alot of the new people who have reported have not given detailed reports which is something that is needed by Androtics to make new consumer products. I am guilty of this at times as well. (sorry Jas wink ) I am going to post a outline here so that new people will understand how to report so we can have some more consumer goodies faster. First off when you receive a product a… > [@How do I know if I am getting hits !!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-know-if-i-am-getting-hits/14192): > > Its a question we all ask at some point… The very first thing to do when you begin to think about purchasing pheromones is to start observing people before you use them. Ask yourself what are peoples normal general reaction to you and others around you. Are they open and friendly ? Are they intimidated ? Do they acknowledge your presence ? Do strangers generally talk to you ? Are people in a great mood when hanging around you ? Do people treat you with respect ? Are guy/girls open to you… > [@Tisha's application tips](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tishas-application-tips/12657): > > We talked about crazy ways we use our pheromones in another thread but how do you apply your pheromones? Do you spray them in one concentrated spot ? I have a few Methods that I use to increase the diffusion of my pheromones and get them mingling out there among my targets, Pulse points method When people first start out we tell them to spray them to your pulse points. These areas tend to heat up and the heat from the body diffuses the pheromones best. In the summer months when the body hea… And of course the one Astera already posted for you. Hang in there, this is just the beginning. If you need help just let me know Tisha