# Instant Shine + Instant Openness **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Journals\ **Created:** [August 1, 2011, 5:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-instant-openness/51557 "2011-08-01T05:49:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 5
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2011, 9:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-instant-openness/51557/5 "2011-08-01T09:37:33Z")
BabyN Hi there, I know that one word on the bottle "Instant " can throw some people off but it takes a little longer then instantly sometimes. First you used both products at the same time. This is fine but when you start out you want to use one at a time to find your dosage for each one. If you dont you never really know which product is causing which reaction for you. You mentioned 1 spray of each. Unless you bought a higher concentration 1 spray usually wont do it for most people so dont worry about not noticing anything just yet. I use 3 to 4 sprays of Ishine and about 2 to 5 of IO. Wrists do have pulse points but are really not the best place to spray in my opinion. They just dont heat up well enough to diffuse the mones on some people. Try different application points. Maybe doing one spray split to wrists then another to the neck. I even give a shot to my hair once in a while. Dont judge the product by self effects. Pheromones work in the subconscious and your conscious of using them. Not everyone gets self effects. Pheromones are meant to signal those around you. > [@](#): > > I didnt notice anything different from the people around me either. In fact my conversations with my close friends were different. I was more quiet and couldn’t think of anything to say. This is common when starting out. Again your conscious of the mones and curious as to what they will do so it sort of puts you into observer mode. I know its hard but try to set them and forget them. Then at the end of the day take a few minutes to think back over the events of the day and determine if you saw anything different. It can take a few times trying before you start to pick up on things. Keep in mind that those close to you take a bit longer to respond. They are conditioned to act a certain way around you and it takes repeated exposure for them to begin reprocessing the signals. I always find that strangers give me the first indication of my mones working then those I know better slowly begin to show a behavior change. While congruence is something thats important you cant make yourself feel something you dont. I am more for not acting in opposition to the signal. For instance if your use Ishine your dont have to be upbeat warm and friendly. Just dont be cold mean and negative. Neutral is fine. Here are some links to help you get a better understanding of mones and how they work. You may have seen them but just in case you haven’t [What pheromones can and can't do: realistic expectations for newcomers](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-do-and-what-they-cant-updated/9558) > [@How to Test and Report On Products UPDATED 12/01](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-test-and-report-on-products-updated-12-01/6297): > > (At the bottom of this post I have included a small guide on how to find your sweet spot) It has occurred to me that alot of the new people who have reported have not given detailed reports which is something that is needed by Androtics to make new consumer products. I am guilty of this at times as well. (sorry Jas wink ) I am going to post a outline here so that new people will understand how to report so we can have some more consumer goodies faster. First off when you receive a product a… > [@How do I know if I am getting hits !!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-know-if-i-am-getting-hits/14192): > > Its a question we all ask at some point… The very first thing to do when you begin to think about purchasing pheromones is to start observing people before you use them. Ask yourself what are peoples normal general reaction to you and others around you. Are they open and friendly ? Are they intimidated ? Do they acknowledge your presence ? Do strangers generally talk to you ? Are people in a great mood when hanging around you ? Do people treat you with respect ? Are guy/girls open to you… > [@Tisha's application tips](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tishas-application-tips/12657): > > We talked about crazy ways we use our pheromones in another thread but how do you apply your pheromones? Do you spray them in one concentrated spot ? I have a few Methods that I use to increase the diffusion of my pheromones and get them mingling out there among my targets, Pulse points method When people first start out we tell them to spray them to your pulse points. These areas tend to heat up and the heat from the body diffuses the pheromones best. In the summer months when the body hea… And of course the one Astera already posted for you. Hang in there, this is just the beginning. If you need help just let me know Tisha --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-instant-openness/51557)._