# Instant Shine Negative Effects? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 24, 2014, 1:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-negative-effects/62270 "2014-06-24T01:07:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ghostmorriss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7ea924/32.png) [@Ghostmorriss](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ghostmorriss)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2014, 1:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-negative-effects/62270/1 "2014-06-24T01:07:08Z")
Hello, [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) was the first product I purchased from here and I have been experimenting off and on with it since around February. I noticed back in February that it really gave me a happy feeling and I had more energy. Fast-forward to today and I have noticed the opposite effect. The past couple weeks I have been using it off and on with different amounts of sprays (1-4). And all my testing was done with only this product, no mixes. The only effects I have noticed is that it makes me drowsy and very mellow but not in a good way. I feel almost like the lights are on but nobody is home. Does anyone have any idea why I’m getting these effects? And how I might be able to get the fun out of IS that I used to get? Thanks 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![j182razor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/71c47a/32.png) [@j182razor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/j182razor)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2014, 4:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-negative-effects/62270/2 "2014-06-24T04:17:44Z")
> [@Ghostmorriss](#): > > Hello, > > Instant Shine was the first product I purchased from here and I have been experimenting off and on with it since around February. I noticed back in February that it really gave me a happy feeling and I had more energy. Fast-forward to today and I have noticed the opposite effect. > > The past couple weeks I have been using it off and on with different amounts of sprays (1-4). And all my testing was done with only this product, no mixes. The only effects I have noticed is that it makes me drowsy and very mellow but not in a good way. I feel almost like the lights are on but nobody is home. > > Does anyone have any idea why I’m getting these effects? And how I might be able to get the fun out of IS that I used to get? > > Thanks 🙂 Hi Ghost, thats an interesting experience. I have used IS but have since run out and I definitely received some of the same undesired effects. For me this was usually when I used IS when tired or not well rested. To be more precise I would still get the positive upbeat and desired effects but it was more like my body ran out of steam well before IS would wear off. So maybe it is something similar for you. That being said you mentioned that you have tried various day and between 1-4 sprays correct? Where these test days consecutive, and how were you in general (tired, emotionally charged, lethargic, etc.)? Also what environment where you testing Is in, I have found that it seems to make me more “sensitive” to my surroundings so that may be another area to consider. I am interested in how a few posters have mentioned IS turning around the tired, lethargic, etc, states for them so perhaps one of them will post to shed some additional light on this. Hope this helps gets the ball rolling for you. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2014, 8:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-negative-effects/62270/3 "2014-06-24T08:30:19Z")
Have a search here for “IS Crash,” there are several threads - This is a not uncommon side effect and in most cases you do adjust after a while. In the meantime, you can go a long way to offset it by ensuring you have some decent food in your stomach and break any alcohol in favour of some electrolyte replenishing drinks to help keep your neurotransmitter levels-up short term. And the odd zone-out for a little while every now and then will help too. ---
**Author:** ![Trickster2k5](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/trickster2k5/32/437_2.png) [@Trickster2k5](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Trickster2k5)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2014, 10:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-negative-effects/62270/4 "2014-06-24T10:48:55Z")
Echoing Mobo’s advice. Also, what strength is you shine? 1x, 2x, 4x? 4 sprays is normally a once a week type thing for me but not often does it give those kind of results, however I only use the 1x normally. So I could see 2x times 4 sprays bringing an epic crash. ---
**Author:** ![Ghostmorriss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7ea924/32.png) [@Ghostmorriss](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ghostmorriss)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2014, 12:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-negative-effects/62270/5 "2014-06-24T12:41:52Z")
The strength I use is the 1x. As for location, I have used it at work and when I’ve gone out with friends. Thanks for all the advice. I’ll pay more attention to how I am feeling and how rested I am before using it. I do work 40 hours outside in the sun, so maybe my body is just exhausted from that. Thanks 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![phertest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3ec8ea/32.png) [@phertest](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phertest)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2014, 6:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-negative-effects/62270/6 "2014-06-24T18:46:15Z")
[Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) is one of my favorite products from AD – but as others have mentioned you definitely need to take breaks to avoid negative effects. Give your brain and body some time off, scrub pheros off thoroughly, hit the gym, take vitamins, and drink lots of water. That seems to do the trick for me 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ghostmorriss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7ea924/32.png) [@Ghostmorriss](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ghostmorriss)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2014, 7:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-negative-effects/62270/7 "2014-06-24T19:09:27Z")
> [@phertest](#): > > Instant Shine is one of my favorite products from AD – but as others have mentioned you definitely need to take breaks to avoid negative effects. > > Give your brain and body some time off, scrub pheros off thoroughly, hit the gym, take vitamins, and drink lots of water. That seems to do the trick for me 🙂 Curious about the vitamins, how does that effect IS? ---
**Author:** ![Nali](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nali/32/753_2.png) [@Nali](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nali)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 9:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-negative-effects/62270/8 "2014-06-25T09:46:33Z")
Summing it up, do you mean that people who goes on a fasting regime risk getting bad side-effects from [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/)? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 11:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-negative-effects/62270/9 "2014-06-25T11:16:45Z")
Not so much the effect of the vitamins themselves - more that they help provide the building blocks that help replenish your neurotransmitters as IS (and to a lesser extent Nols), appear to help you burn through them faster in the short-term. Similarly, fasting will ensure your body will not have enough basic fuel/chemicals to hand and you will likely worsen any crash effects because you will need to use-up less easily metabolised sources of energy in order to replenish them more slowly. ---
**Author:** ![prdubi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9dc877/32.png) [@prdubi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/prdubi)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 3:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-negative-effects/62270/10 "2014-06-26T03:20:23Z")
My personal experience has been that it really has to be in the mood and setting. In the office, when all is doing well, it worked very well and it was a booster to the mood and feelings in the office. When it was bad…it kinda for some of the older woman, made them more angry. those in an awful mood, they toned down, this was in a 3 month experiment in an office that is mainly government personal in the military. ---
**Author:** ![Nali](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nali/32/753_2.png) [@Nali](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nali)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 7:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-negative-effects/62270/11 "2014-06-26T07:33:12Z")
Can you rephrase this in a simpler way, mobocaster? > [@mobocaster](#): > > . . . > fasting will ensure your body will not have enough basic fuel/chemicals to hand and you will likely worsen any crash effects because you will need to use-up less easily metabolised sources of energy in order to replenish them more slowly. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 8:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-negative-effects/62270/12 "2014-06-26T08:26:57Z")
It probably won’t increase any risk of your getting ill-effects but fasting won’t help your body recover fast enough if you do get them - so it could make it worse. ---
**Author:** ![j182razor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/71c47a/32.png) [@j182razor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/j182razor)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 4:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-negative-effects/62270/13 "2014-06-26T16:42:00Z")
> [@Nali](#): > > Summing it up, do you mean that people who goes on a fasting regime risk getting bad side-effects from Instant Shine? Hi Nali, Since you mentioned what type of fasting are you performing? Is NO food/drink from dawn to dusk, only water/juice, only rice and water. There are several ways to fast both associated with health practices and for religious/spiritual purposes. Due to that, I’m sure there will be a slight/moderate difference depending on your method. So for instance if your able to ingest fruit juice and water, then potentially you could gain the nutrients your body needs to maintain “functional” level. So small amounts of IS may actually not have negative effects. If its a Dawn to dusk fast then applying IS _after_ you break your fast (maybe an hour or so) may work to mitigate any potential negative effects. I personally have not fasted AND used IS but I have a 2x to go coming today so maybe I will experiment and report back on it. Sounds like it would be interesting and I have been thinking about doing a fast as well. ---
**Author:** ![Nali](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nali/32/753_2.png) [@Nali](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nali)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 3:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-negative-effects/62270/14 "2014-06-27T03:54:55Z")
Fasting from dawn to dusk that I am referring to is totally no food, no drink, no smoking/vaping/inhaling/insertion of anything inside the gastrointestinal entrance/exit, no sex or masturbation, no thinking of anything that would arouse self, no doing sinful act. I just need Ishine to boost self-confidence and the feel-good vibe on myself and towards colleagues. > [@j182razor](#): > > Hi Nali, > Since you mentioned what type of fasting are you performing? Is NO food/drink from dawn to dusk, only water/juice, only rice and water. There are several ways to fast both associated with health practices and for religious/spiritual purposes. Due to that, I’m sure there will be a slight/moderate difference depending on your method. > > So for instance if your able to ingest fruit juice and water, then potentially you could gain the nutrients your body needs to maintain “functional” level. So small amounts of IS may actually not have negative effects. > > If its a Dawn to dusk fast then applying IS _after_ you break your fast (maybe an hour or so) may work to mitigate any potential negative effects. > > I personally have not fasted AND used IS but I have a 2x to go coming today so maybe I will experiment and report back on it. Sounds like it would be interesting and I have been thinking about doing a fast as well. ---
**Author:** ![YungC](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/yungc/32/513_2.png) [@YungC](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/YungC)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 4:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-negative-effects/62270/15 "2014-06-27T04:41:36Z")
The only self effects I’ve experienced or even heard of is a slight “crash” 4-6 hours after a high dose of Ishine has been applied (60mcg+), similar to a caffeine crash, albeit not as sedative; more of a lethargic “2:30 feeling.” Only way to fix it is to apply more Ishine! It’s an addiction 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2014, 5:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-negative-effects/62270/16 "2014-07-24T05:19:02Z")
> [@Nali](#): > > Fasting from dawn to dusk that I am referring to is totally no food, no drink, no smoking/vaping/inhaling/insertion of anything inside the gastrointestinal entrance/exit, no sex or masturbation, no thinking of anything that would arouse self, no doing sinful act. > > I just need Ishine to boost self-confidence and the feel-good vibe on myself and towards colleagues. I suggest you should try putting it before you begin your fasting. You have your stomach full at that moment and you will carry on the self effects of IShine as you go on with your day’s fasting. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Nali](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nali/32/753_2.png) [@Nali](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nali)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 4:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-negative-effects/62270/17 "2014-07-25T04:38:47Z")
Great idea, man! Thanks! > [@herepero](#): > > I suggest you should try putting it before you begin your fasting. You have your stomach full at that moment and you will carry on the self effects of IShine as you go on with your day’s fasting. > > 🙂