# Instant shine side effects? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 23, 2013, 2:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-side-effects/59407 "2013-06-23T14:40:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![gforcex7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b38774/32.png) [@gforcex7](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gforcex7)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2013, 2:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-side-effects/59407/1 "2013-06-23T14:40:06Z")
I decided to try instant shine by itself at work. I have concluded it doesn’t change my mood as other mentioned. But that’s okay. Because I know I shouldn’t rely on it doing so. Anyway, after 2-3 hours I felt extremely exhausted & tired. Is this a crash? I got pretty good sleep prior, but it became a surprise that I was tired & take a nap at work. Funny thing is my goal was to sleep early so I wouldn’t be tired the next day (at work). But I guess it was counter productive. Also after another 4 hours or so, I started to notice irritations. Any ideas? Also, I think I might be feeling tired is during the middle of my sleep I continued to drink the rest of my bottle of neurosleep. About a quarter bottle left. At didn’t get as much sleep after which was only 3-4 hours remaining. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2013, 3:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-side-effects/59407/2 "2013-06-23T15:07:36Z")
Yup that sounds like a crash. If you get them, its always worst at the beginning, so just hang-in there, you should get used to it. If not, reduce dose/steer clear. ---
**Author:** ![gforcex7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b38774/32.png) [@gforcex7](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gforcex7)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2013, 4:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-side-effects/59407/3 "2013-06-23T16:40:54Z")
Thanks mobo! Now that I’m at home, I still feel my brain drained. Yet I have intense focus on the computer & getting things done? ---
**Author:** ![XyzN](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xyzn/32/2416_2.png) [@XyzN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XyzN)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2013, 8:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-side-effects/59407/4 "2013-06-27T08:32:35Z")
> [@gforcex7](#): > > after 2-3 hours I felt extremely exhausted & tired…Also after another 4 hours or so, I started to notice irritations. This is exactly how my day went to day as well with my first time using IS, I was kind of disappointed, i crashed about 30 mins after, giving me an annoying headache. I then too noticed irritations on my arms where I sprayed it, that went away after a few hours…also didn’t notice any effects on those around me :\< ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2013, 9:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-side-effects/59407/5 "2013-06-27T09:09:31Z")
Thirty minutes - headache - irritation. That sounds more like a problem with the scent components rather than the actual pheros. ---
**Author:** ![gforcex7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b38774/32.png) [@gforcex7](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gforcex7)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2013, 11:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-side-effects/59407/6 "2013-06-27T11:34:40Z")
Only IS though. Used it again while I went out with my relatives. I felt great for the first hour. Then started to feel composed. I was like wtf? ---
**Author:** ![XyzN](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xyzn/32/2416_2.png) [@XyzN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XyzN)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2013, 2:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-side-effects/59407/7 "2013-06-27T14:18:19Z")
Can just a scent really irritate skin? I was just using default [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) scent, as with the other few mones I use and those haven’t gave me any problem (p102, IO) ---
**Author:** ![gforcex7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b38774/32.png) [@gforcex7](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gforcex7)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2013, 2:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-side-effects/59407/8 "2013-06-27T14:21:20Z")
I haven’t experienced skin irritation. Everyone body can cause different effects. Keep testing. Test every other day. You probably are allergic to this specific product. ---
**Author:** ![Himeros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/himeros/32/2325_2.png) [@Himeros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Himeros)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 5:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-side-effects/59407/9 "2013-06-28T17:23:45Z")
Anyone knows what actually **causes** the IS crash? Saturated neurotransmitters or something like that? Curious about the physiology behind this… ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 6:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-side-effects/59407/10 "2013-06-28T18:07:17Z")
> [@XyzN](#): > > Can just a scent really irritate skin? Quite easily - scents contain a wide variety of potentially irritating chemicals. I’m fine with all the main AD scents except for FF21 (Ammo) which gives me headaches and minor skin irritation but there are many other colognes and cosmetic products I have to watch because they trigger quite nasty reactions. ---
**Author:** ![verongome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/5e9695/32.png) [@verongome](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/verongome)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2013, 3:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-side-effects/59407/11 "2013-06-29T03:06:49Z")
well i got some skin irritation ---
**Author:** ![XyzN](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xyzn/32/2416_2.png) [@XyzN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XyzN)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2013, 10:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-side-effects/59407/12 "2013-06-29T10:16:43Z")
sprayed it over a 2 hour old IO spray spot, no irritation or headaches this time than the first time, will have to test more though. ---
**Author:** ![gforcex7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b38774/32.png) [@gforcex7](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gforcex7)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2013, 3:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-side-effects/59407/13 "2013-06-29T15:19:11Z")
> [@Himeros](#): > > Anyone knows what actually **causes** the IS crash? Saturated neurotransmitters or something like that? Curious about the physiology behind this… IS is very well known for the crash. Hundreds of threads on this site. ---
**Author:** ![XyzN](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xyzn/32/2416_2.png) [@XyzN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XyzN)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2013, 9:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-side-effects/59407/14 "2013-06-30T09:23:53Z")
Again, tested IS again after applying 3 hours of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/). No irritation or any “noticeable” headaches/crashes. I just find it weird that my skin irritation is already gone after only using it once…hmm…might be because that day I didn’t have a lot of oil/sweat on my skin, so it got to my actual skin easily. ---
**Author:** ![gforcex7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b38774/32.png) [@gforcex7](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gforcex7)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2013, 10:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-side-effects/59407/15 "2013-06-30T10:45:26Z")
Irritation happens usually the first time of skin exposure. Looks like your all set.