# Instant Shine turned sexual mix into social mix **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 8, 2010, 11:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-turned-sexual-mix-into-social-mix/38446 "2010-05-08T23:45:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 11:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-turned-sexual-mix-into-social-mix/38446/1 "2010-05-08T23:45:40Z")
In the past I’ve used the following pheromones and they gave me a very sexual pheromone signature. For me a sexual pheromone signature gets me DIHL, lots of IOIs but also repels some women. Overall, this is an excellent pheromone combination for me for bars and clubs. 1 Spray IJ 1 Spray TUTH A314 Last night I added 1 spray of Instant Shine to the above mentioned [pheromone sprays](https://a314.com/product-category/spray-pheromones/). It turned out to be an excellent combination but it was not sexual at all. It was a very social mix and I ended up having very nice conversations with three different women and I hung out with one of these women for a few hours and we had a great time just talking. I was very pleased with the way those four products worked together but I don’t understand why the Instant Shine turned a sexual mix into a social mix. I’m a bit surprised by this. Could this have just been a one time fluke? Anyone else have a sexual mix turn into a social mix by just 1 spray of instant shine? Edit - I used 1 drop of A314 ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 11:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-turned-sexual-mix-into-social-mix/38446/2 "2010-05-08T23:48:57Z")
Probably a fluke, that’s a decent hefty amount of -none paired with A314’s intimidating vibe so I doubt just one spray of IS would hinder it that much. Unless your IS is x4 then that would be a bit more understandable. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 12:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-turned-sexual-mix-into-social-mix/38446/3 "2010-05-09T00:10:46Z")
I would think with two none heavy products like IJ and TuTH combined with a real dominant status product like A314 the best a single spray of Shine could do is make you a little more approachable but still very sexual. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 12:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-turned-sexual-mix-into-social-mix/38446/4 "2010-05-09T00:22:14Z")
definitely OD, unless you want girls 40+, lol ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 12:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-turned-sexual-mix-into-social-mix/38446/5 "2010-05-09T00:46:05Z")
How much A314 did you use? ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 12:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-turned-sexual-mix-into-social-mix/38446/6 "2010-05-09T00:49:56Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > definitely OD, unless you want girls 40+, lol You ever see a 40+ year old woman with a rich husband and too much free time? All they do is take fuckin pilates and aerobics classes and get facials, hair stylings and manicures, with occasional boob job thrown in for good measure. I’ve been with women pushing 50 that had bodies a college cheerleader would be jealous of and trust me they’re willing to do things that would make younger women go “ewwww pervert!!!” ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 1:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-turned-sexual-mix-into-social-mix/38446/7 "2010-05-09T01:02:42Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > How much A314 did you use? 1 drop. Oops, I forgot to put that in the original post. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 1:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-turned-sexual-mix-into-social-mix/38446/8 "2010-05-09T01:09:30Z")
How old are you? I’ve been considering combining A314 with both IJ and TUTH but wasn’t sure if that’d be an OD on me. ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 1:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-turned-sexual-mix-into-social-mix/38446/9 "2010-05-09T01:26:25Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > How old are you? I’ve been considering combining A314 with both IJ and TUTH but wasn’t sure if that’d be an OD on me. I’m 37 years old and I typically do very well with -none heavy mixes. 🙂 I absolutely love A314 and IJ together. I believe that I’ve always produced very little -none even when I was younger so I can get away with using more than most people can. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 1:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-turned-sexual-mix-into-social-mix/38446/10 "2010-05-09T01:31:18Z")
ok cool, we’re about the same age then ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 11:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-turned-sexual-mix-into-social-mix/38446/11 "2010-05-09T11:18:19Z")
What kind of reactions were you getting without the Ishine ? In what way was it more sexual ? Did you pick up on any IOI’s ? One spray should not do that. Generally a 3 to 1 ratio is recommended (of course we all have our own ranges) Ishine should help draw them in and make them more confortable so the masculine [pheromones](https://a314.com/) can arouse. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 3:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-turned-sexual-mix-into-social-mix/38446/12 "2010-05-10T03:30:26Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > What kind of reactions were you getting without the Ishine ? > > In what way was it more sexual ? Did you pick up on any IOI’s ? > > One spray should not do that. Generally a 3 to 1 ratio is recommended (of course we all have our own ranges) > > Ishine should help draw them in and make them more confortable so the masculine pheromones can arouse. > > Tisha Without the [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), I’ve gotten strong sexual reactions from women in crowded environments such as DIHL, a girl blatantly rubbing her breasts into me as she walked by, women purposefully touching me as they waled by, women hovering in my proximity sneaking peaks at me, etc… I didn’t get any sexual hits on Friday night at all with the IS but had great conversations with women. I’m thinking it must have been just a fluke or there may have been other factors that I wasn’t aware of. 1 spray of Instant Shine should not make that much of a difference. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 4:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-turned-sexual-mix-into-social-mix/38446/13 "2010-05-10T04:07:03Z")
I wouldn’t necessarily call that a sexual hit. I get that kind of bs teasing from girls without pheromones very often. I am wondering have you had a girl grab you and do everything but explicitly tell you she wants to have sex with you, so it was easy for you to get the same night lay. She is all over you like a puppy and pretty much looking at u to take her home, haha. Now that I would call it a real “sexual hit.” That is the type of story I am hoping to hear. I am sure something like this would inspire other guys too, lol Well, I guess I am expecting too much 😛 ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 5:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-turned-sexual-mix-into-social-mix/38446/14 "2010-05-10T05:18:31Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > I wouldn’t necessarily call that a sexual hit. I get that kind of bs teasing from girls without pheromones very often. I am wondering have you had a girl grab you and do everything but explicitly tell you she wants to have sex with you, so it was easy for you to get the same night lay. She is all over you like a puppy and pretty much looking at u to take her home, haha. Now that I would call it a real “sexual hit.” That is the type of story I am hoping to hear. I am sure something like this would inspire other guys too, lol > Well, I guess I am expecting too much 😛 Without pheromones I don’t get that type of attention from women very often so those are hits for me. Without pheromones I’m quite invisible to women most of the time with just an occasionally woman showing interest once in a while. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 5:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-turned-sexual-mix-into-social-mix/38446/15 "2010-05-10T05:33:06Z")
I think you might be misreading your signal then. While I have yet to try [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/)…much less with TuTH and A314 (how do you get your pants on with balls that big?) You yourself describe your hits as intense, but fewer and more far between, correct? I know what A314 and TuTH say as both stand alones and combined. And I know what other people report IJ as saying. My experience has been that Shine smooths out the rough edges of any product you mix it with and enhances the best qualities of it. Your original mix is a very aggressive, dominant, and sexual statement. Which will likely appeal very strongly to a small number of very sexual women that like men with balls of steel and attitude to spare. But it likely intimidated most of the others. What you perceived as non sexual “social” hits were probably submissive green lights from women that found the mix more appealing thanks to the shine. Keep in mind the TuTH not only helps the women to feel aroused but communicates that you’re in a sexual mindset as well (hence the risk of giving off a horndog vibe) Yet A314 is a strong social Alpha Male product and IJ implies physical dominance and sexual fitness. …the women you’re attracting with your signal are being attracted to a dominant and aggressive vibe coming from you. A vibe they might have ignored before due to intimidation but now find appealing thanks to the Shine. Yet they still expect you to be the assertive one. So they might not be as forward as some of the other women, but I suspect they were just as attracted and hoping you would be congruent with your signal and go caveman on them a little. ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 12:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-turned-sexual-mix-into-social-mix/38446/16 "2010-05-10T12:46:38Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > I think you might be misreading your signal then. > While I have yet to try Instant Jerk…much less with TuTH and A314 (how do you get your pants on with balls that big?) You yourself describe your hits as intense, but fewer and more far between, correct? > > I know what A314 and TuTH say as both stand alones and combined. And I know what other people report IJ as saying. My experience has been that Shine smooths out the rough edges of any product you mix it with and enhances the best qualities of it. Your original mix is a very aggressive, dominant, and sexual statement. Which will likely appeal very strongly to a small number of very sexual women that like men with balls of steel and attitude to spare. But it likely intimidated most of the others. What you perceived as non sexual “social” hits were probably submissive green lights from women that found the mix more appealing thanks to the shine. > Keep in mind the TuTH not only helps the women to feel aroused but communicates that you’re in a sexual mindset as well (hence the risk of giving off a horndog vibe) > Yet A314 is a strong social Alpha Male product and IJ implies physical dominance and sexual fitness. …the women you’re attracting with your signal are being attracted to a dominant and aggressive vibe coming from you. A vibe they might have ignored before due to intimidation but now find appealing thanks to the Shine. Yet they still expect you to be the assertive one. So they might not be as forward as some of the other women, but I suspect they were just as attracted and hoping you would be congruent with your signal and go caveman on them a little. Good point. I assumed the hits were non-sexual because none of these women I was talking to gave obvious signs that they were attracted to me. Maybe they were but I just didn’t know it.