# Instant Shine used alone: what results have you had, and what would you improve?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [February 12, 2006, 8:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134 "2006-02-12T20:39:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![terry0400-40](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/terry0400-40/32/1915_2.png) [@terry0400-40](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/terry0400-40)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 1:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/41 "2006-10-16T13:10:58Z")

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> [@Jasmin](#):
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> Where on your body did you spray the MX113 and Instant Shine?

The spray was applied to the lower throat and sides of neck to be precise and erum a very small teeny weeny dab of npa to the tip of chin.😉

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**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 3:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/42 "2006-10-16T15:35:00Z")

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> [@Jasmin](#):
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> Where on your body did you spray the MX113 and Instant Shine?

I sure would like to test this MX113 and some TAA, JASMIN. 🆒 Don’t make me come to Cali to get it! 😠

Love Always 😛

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**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 11:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/43 "2006-10-16T23:19:02Z")

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> [@terry0400-40](#):
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> Paraaaar Paraaaar honk honk, well guess what, yes i am now qualified to say something about Instant Shine as i found some in my mail thismorning and i did the right thing and slammed some on well 2 sprays to be precise and a spray of something unexpected that also came along for the trip which i have no idea what it is but it smelled ok it was labelled MX113, and as i had a rough night and was feeling a tad jaded and was on my way out i thought why not, did i notice any effects? i sure did believe it or not but i did, i dont know if i was shining or not as the best word to describe how i felt is SMOOTH man i really felt super smooth like i was right in harmoney with each and every second like suspended in time sort of just rolling along smooth and controlled it felt so natural, i did not expect this at all, and externally not much as i was busy, but one girl did apologise to me for getting in my way which was odd because she was over 4 foot away from me.🙂 🙂

told ya. this MX113/TAA combo is crazy. 🆒

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2006, 3:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/44 "2006-10-18T03:28:30Z")

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> [@examine](#):
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> told ya. this MX113/TAA combo is crazy. 🆒

I want some! ☹

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**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2006, 3:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/45 "2006-10-18T03:45:26Z")

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> [@catlord17](#):
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> I want some! ☹

Me too … Jasmin! 🙄

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**Author:** ![Rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rob)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2006, 11:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/46 "2006-10-18T11:10:39Z")

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Don’t get too excited. He did mention he applied some NPA to the chin.

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2006, 12:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/47 "2006-10-19T00:36:42Z")

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> [@Rob](#):
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> Don’t get too excited. He did mention he applied some NPA to the chin.

But Examine didn’t! lol

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**Author:** ![Rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rob)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2006, 12:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/48 "2006-10-19T12:30:47Z")

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> [@terry0400-40](#):
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> The spray was applied to the lower throat and sides of neck to be precise and erum a very small teeny weeny dab of npa to the tip of chin.😉

Ohh realllyy..? or did you mean… he really… didn’t…=)

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**Author:** ![Rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rob)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2006, 12:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/49 "2006-10-19T12:32:16Z")

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Was talking about the other guy. Instant shine is da bomb though.. I’m thinking about wearing some with A314 today. Anyway alittle off topic, what is the thing you guys have been talking about with this MX113 lately? or was it something else.. all I remember was it was a high MX number… isn’t MX113 for girls?

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**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2006, 5:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/50 "2006-10-19T17:42:32Z")

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MX113

> [@M\_M](#):
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> Me too … Jasmin! 🙄

OMG, I think I see M&M hanging out on the tree outside my window…

FYI: The [Molecule A](https://a314.com/product/molecule-a/) (TAA) Oil is in the cart, here:

> **[Experimental Human Pheromones - Pheromone Labs](https://pheromonelabs.com/)**

I’d like to hear more TAA+MX113/Akuto mix stories soon!

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**Author:** ![live4themusic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/live4themusic/32/1996_2.png) [@live4themusic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/live4themusic)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2006, 6:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/51 "2006-10-19T18:15:51Z")

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> [@Jasmin](#):
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> OMG, I think I see M&M hanging out on the tree outside my window…
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> FYI: The Molecule A (TAA) Oil is in the cart, here:  
> [https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)
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> I’d like to hear more TAA+MX113/Akuto mix stories soon!

The product description on that says that each drop of oil contains 10 mcg of TAA. However, there is no mention of how many mg of TAA is contained in the bottle, or how many drops are contained in the bottle.

In comparison, [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) releases 15 mcg of pheromones per spray (at least 7.5 of which I’m guessing is TAA), comes in a bottle reputed to last 200 sprays, and is a little over half the price of the TAA Oil.

A bottle of straight TAA that administers 10 mcg / spray would cost $30.

So to be worth it just from a basic representation of pheromones/$, the bottle would have to contain about 525 drops.

Now of course, putting the TAA into oil changes everything, and might extend the effects of the TAA to where 10 mcg of TAA in oil goes twice as far as 10 mcg of TAA in spray. Or maybe the way it affects people is altered.

But still, it would be nice to know how many drops are in each bottle, or the total pheromone content of the entire bottle.

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**Author:** ![terry0400-40](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/terry0400-40/32/1915_2.png) [@terry0400-40](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/terry0400-40)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2006, 11:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/52 "2006-10-19T23:35:27Z")

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> [@Jasmin](#):
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> OMG, I think I see M&M hanging out on the tree outside my window…
> 
> FYI: The Molecule A (TAA) Oil is in the cart, here:  
> [https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)
> 
> I’d like to hear more TAA+MX113/Akuto mix stories soon!

I think my brain is in recharge mode sometimes because after all these weeks i have seen much mention of TAA oil ,i looked under search and nothing comes up Can anyone spare a minute and explain what it is and the effects thereof, i have some mx113 so i think it might complement this judging from what i have just seen, thanks if u can tell.😕

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**Author:** ![live4themusic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/live4themusic/32/1996_2.png) [@live4themusic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/live4themusic)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2006, 1:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/53 "2006-10-20T01:56:10Z")

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> [@terry0400-40](#):
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> I think my brain is in recharge mode sometimes because after all these weeks i have seen much mention of TAA oil ,i looked under search and nothing comes up Can anyone spare a minute and explain what it is and the effects thereof, i have some mx113 so i think it might complement this judging from what i have just seen, thanks if u can tell.😕

TAA (Test Pheromone A) is a pheromone (which Androtics has yet to publically identify) that is the prominent component of Instant Shine. Until now, TAA has been available under the ExperiMone series section of Androtics’ store, in the spray format. I don’t know if this was done before, but I just noticed it: now they are selling it under the [Pheromone Oil](https://a314.com/product-category/oil-pheromones/) section of the store. By including it in oil, it supposedly extends the effects.

I have no experience with TAA, TAA oil, or Instant Shine, so I’m not saying this is accurate this is from firsthand experience, this is just what I’ve gathered.

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**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2006, 3:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/54 "2006-10-20T03:40:28Z")

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> [@Jasmin](#):
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> OMG, I think I see M&M hanging out on the tree outside my window…
> 
> FYI: The Molecule A (TAA) Oil is in the cart, here:  
> [https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)
> 
> I’d like to hear more TAA+MX113/Akuto mix stories soon!

Good girlllll! 🙄 Now, MX113, so I can place me order pleeeeeeseee! 😛

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**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2006, 3:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/55 "2006-10-20T03:43:49Z")

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> [@terry0400-40](#):
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> I think my brain is in recharge mode sometimes because after all these weeks i have seen much mention of TAA oil ,i looked under search and nothing comes up Can anyone spare a minute and explain what it is and the effects thereof, i have some mx113 so i think it might complement this judging from what i have just seen, thanks if u can tell.😕

😠 Who did you con and how did you con … to get MX113, Terry? 😠

😛 Come one … share the SECRET. 😛

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**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2006, 3:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/56 "2006-10-20T03:56:25Z")

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Okay okay okay! I found’em both. How much MX113 do we get in the package? 😕

Thankyous! 😃

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**Author:** ![terry0400-40](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/terry0400-40/32/1915_2.png) [@terry0400-40](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/terry0400-40)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2006, 7:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/57 "2006-10-20T07:17:19Z")

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> [@M\_M](#):
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> 😠 Who did you con and how did you con … to get MX113, Terry? 😠
> 
> 😛 Come one … share the SECRET. 😛

Excuse me Mr M&M, Did you really think i was a con man?😃 It is obvious that someone over there thinks that i am a good bloke or i have an admirer in the warehouse. I have learned though that it would be good to conserve the MX113 and use it with my instant shine, that is when i get the chance because my A314 arrived today from the love store and i have to devote some instant time to this preparation before my IFM and CTTM2 arrives in 10 days so i am going to be a busy boy. ANNNDAARRa it is good to know someone over there loves me 😃 😃 :o

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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2006, 9:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/58 "2006-10-20T09:00:46Z")

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> [@Jasmin](#):
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> OMG, I think I see M&M hanging out on the tree outside my window…
> 
> FYI: The Molecule A (TAA) Oil is in the cart, here:  
> [https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)
> 
> I’d like to hear more TAA+MX113/Akuto mix stories soon!

The product sounds cool thanks for offering it. I had quite different results from Experimone TAA (fast diffusing) as compared to [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) (slower diffusing) so I would be interested to see how the TAA oil goes.

Also I think oil products are a good idea - I am finding spraying plenty of alcohol-based products on my skin everyday a little painful.

**Please people post your experiences of TAA Oil and MX113 - Examine seems to be having a ball with those two and MX113 seems to be a ‘sexual’ product without substantial ANone which would make it a first!**

Visionary

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**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2006, 4:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/59 "2006-10-21T04:10:27Z")

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> [@](#):
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> The product sounds cool thanks for offering it. I had quite different results from Experimone TAA (fast diffusing) as compared to Instant Shine (slower diffusing) so I would be interested to see how the TAA oil goes.
> 
> Also I think oil products are a good idea - I am finding spraying plenty of alcohol-based products on my skin everyday a little painful.
> 
> **Please people post your experiences of TAA Oil and MX113 - Examine seems to be having a ball with those two and MX113 seems to be a ‘sexual’ product without substantial Androstenone which would make it a first!**

Can someone pleeeese tell me how much/size/quantity of MX113 comes in the package?

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2006, 4:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/60 "2006-10-21T04:29:37Z")

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> [@M\_M](#):
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> What Visionary said, annnnd can someone pleeeese tell me how much/size/quantity of MX113 comes in the package?
> 
> Thanks!

All test mixes (including MX113) are now “To Go”. Meaning 5ml each, 40 sprays average. They’re sold for 50-80% off of the eventual target price, sometimes at or below our cost for newer or costlier technology.

We’ve changed over our test format because we want to plough through test mixes, to make better things faster.

Full size ones had us waiting too long for feedback, for the same old mixes. The new smaller, cheaper, faster format has had people testing many new mixes per month, and giving feedback faster.

It’s working pretty good, except that some people then buy go on to buy multiples of the same test mix (gimme 14 MX113s!) That’s not so good, because we only make a limited quantity, and it’s better if each person just buys 1 each.

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