# Instant Shine used alone: what results have you had, and what would you improve? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 12, 2006, 8:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134 "2006-02-12T20:39:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2006, 4:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/61 "2006-10-21T04:32:06Z")
MX113 is in this package of 4 test mixes: > **[Akuto - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/akuto/)** ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2006, 4:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/62 "2006-10-21T16:39:45Z")
im not trying to put anybody on blast or anything. but $69.99 for TAA oil 😮 , is a bit over board. A314 cost that much and it has waayy more pheromones in it and is scented, and is a much stronger product. TAA is just a single molecule. just giving feedback. oh and as you can see, i havent had much stories. i finished 113 a couple of weeks ago, and have been messing with my [A314 spray](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic-spray/) series. other than 105 the other ones demand respect and distance. thats not much ‘fun’ _shrugs_ but good for work I guess. 🆒 im expecting my 113-116 mixes today. as well as the new shine series. just in time since im going to be conducting a lot of classes and traveling in nov. 🆒 ps. Jasmin, you asked for feedback on 105–_search_ 😛 ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2006, 5:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/63 "2006-10-21T17:05:25Z")
> [@Socrates](#): > > **Examine seems to be having a ball** > Visionary Time managment has been a major issue. I think the thai/taiwanese girl (the girl im dating) is getting a little upset. but im not going to get in depth with that. it has nothing to do with pheros, only its aftermath.😃 ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2006, 7:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/64 "2006-10-21T19:42:38Z")
> [@examine](#): > > im not trying to put anybody on blast or anything. but $69.99 for TAA oil 😮 , is a bit over board. A314 cost that much and it has waayy more pheromones in it and is scented, and is a much stronger product. TAA is just a single molecule. > > just giving feedback. You get 11,400mcg of pheromones total in the TAA oil, which is more than A314. This is actually underpriced, like most of our products. The oil products are especially underpriced, due to their concentration. We charge prices competitive to the Chinese made products out there, but you get a much higher quality American synthesized product which costs **many** times more to make. The molecule is exclusive (not found anyhere else), and the product is dosed and well designed overall. You get benefits you won’t get from anything else. If you bought these through a retailer, you’d pay significantly more. As it is, It’s like a bait & switch in reverse. It’s as if you were charged for a Hyundai, [Chery](http://www.cheryglobal.com/) or a Daewoo and you received a Mercedes, BMW or Porsche instead. We know our numbers and those of the industry, and it’s a much better deal than you think. The car example doesn’t even tell the whole story. At least the inexpensive cars above _work_. In the chemical/pharmaceutical/herb trade, many of the ingredients sent from inexpensive suppliers are either fake or extremely diluted or vastly impure. They always come with COAs that are made up, either partly or in whole. If we dealt with China for our own products, we’d have the same problems with pheromones that nutritional companies are having with Hoodia and other supplements. [http://www.newstarget.com/006016.html](http://www.newstarget.com/006016.html) ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2006, 7:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/65 "2006-10-21T19:51:46Z")
> [@examine](#): > > ps. Jasmin, you asked for feedback on 105–_search_ 😛 Hey, I search plenty. 😃 But I know there’s more stories out there that don’t get told, so I ask. I probably get twice as many over PM and the phone combined than I do here. It’s nice to have something compiled all in one place that I can show the boss. ---
**Author:** ![live4themusic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/live4themusic/32/1996_2.png) [@live4themusic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/live4themusic)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2006, 7:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/66 "2006-10-21T19:56:20Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > You get 11,400mcg of pheromones total in the TAA oil, which is more than A314. > > This is actually underpriced, like most of our products. The oil products are especially underpriced, due to their concentration. We charge prices competitive to the Chinese made products out there, but you get a much higher quality American synthesized product which costs **many** times more to make. If you bought these through a retailer, you’d pay significantly more. As it is, it’s like charging you for a Hyundai or a [Chery](http://www.cheryglobal.com/) and sending you a Mercedes or BMW. We know our numbers and those of the industry, and it’s a much better deal than you think. So if I am understanding this correctly, there are 1,140 drops contained in the bottle of TAA oil? If so, this sound like a pretty sweet deal! ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2006, 8:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/67 "2006-10-21T20:45:13Z")
> [@live4themusic](#): > > So if I am understanding this correctly, there are 1,140 drops contained in the bottle of TAA oil? If so, this sound like a pretty sweet deal! Well, you’re almost right… about twice as right as you should be. There’s actually about 540 drops. 20 mcg per drop. Still _a lot_. These things really last a long time. The effects may not be as hit-you-over-the-head like as the spray sometimes are, but oil versions can be a great deal for long time pheromone users who have already developed high social awareness. They’re also great for hot weather users who sometimes have trouble with spray products evaporating too fast. Customers in the Southern US and Southeast Asia like them a lot. High heat and low humidity = use an oil product. ---
**Author:** ![live4themusic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/live4themusic/32/1996_2.png) [@live4themusic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/live4themusic)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2006, 8:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/68 "2006-10-21T20:58:52Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > Well, you’re almost right… about twice as right as you should be. > > There’s actually about 540 drops. 20 mcg per drop. Still _a lot_. These things really last a long time. > > The effects may not be as hit-you-over-the-head like as the spray sometimes are, but oil versions can be a great deal for long time pheromone users who have already developed high social awareness. > > They’re also great for hot weather users who sometimes have trouble with spray products – Southern US, Southeast Asia. Good stuff! The product specifications for the TAA oil ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) say that it releases 10 mcg/drop, so you might want to fix that. ---
**Author:** ![Homura83](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/homura83/32/1989_2.png) [@Homura83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Homura83)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2006, 10:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/69 "2006-10-21T22:02:57Z")
Its a lifesaver in my climate truely.I’m sure I’ll finish it in a flash and get more very soon.😃 ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2006, 10:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/70 "2006-10-21T22:23:30Z")
> [@Homura83](#): > > Its a lifesaver in my climate truely.I’m sure I’ll finish it in a flash and get more very soon.😃 Wow, you must be using a lot. How many drops are you using to get good effects? What are you seeing? ---
**Author:** ![Homura83](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/homura83/32/1989_2.png) [@Homura83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Homura83)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2006, 4:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/71 "2006-10-22T04:39:19Z")
I see quick results with [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) at 60mcg and above within 3hrs of application and interaction.Gives a really great kick start to the day,especially Mondays.Smooths out these mornings alot.😉 The mood becomes very enjoyable,even aquantainces can become like best friends in an instant.People want to know you more and talk about the fun stuff without spacing out or going into semi-auto/automatic fire mode.Its like instant sincere enjoyment.I feel relaxed and confident wearing it.Yes it is proven close girl friends will definitely try to lick it off your neck when its scented with the sweet EOs candy-like scent at 30-60mcg.I feel like a walking girl candy with it.😛🙄😮🙄😃 I’m thinking of using 100mcg for oil and hopes it can last for a whole day,or most of it,instead of just a couple of hours.:)Hopefully I do not get my head bitten off before my next posts to the forum.😮 ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 8:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/72 "2006-11-17T08:37:58Z")
> [@Homura83](#): > > I see quick results with Instant Shine at 60mcg and above within 3hrs of application and interaction.Gives a really great kick start to the day,especially Mondays.Smooths out these mornings alot.😉 The mood becomes very enjoyable,even aquantainces can become like best friends in an instant.People want to know you more and talk about the fun stuff without spacing out or going into semi-auto/automatic fire mode.Its like instant sincere enjoyment.I feel relaxed and confident wearing it.Yes it is proven close girl friends will definitely try to lick it off your neck when its scented with the sweet EOs candy-like scent at 30-60mcg.I feel like a walking girl candy with it.😛🙄😮🙄😃 > I’m thinking of using 100mcg for oil and hopes it can last for a whole day,or most of it,instead of just a couple of hours.:)Hopefully I do not get my head bitten off before my next posts to the forum.😮 Has anyone seen different reactions between the TAA Oil and [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) or is it just the fact that it, being oil-based, is longer lasting? I am thinking of trying the TAA Oil in my next order. Visionary ---
**Author:** ![itwow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/itwow/32/1493_2.png) [@itwow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/itwow)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 11:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/73 "2006-11-20T11:26:35Z")
I noticed that combos of _opposite-pulling_ products give quite interesting results. Consider : Instant Shine/m + WAGG Celebrity + Approachability Instant Shine/m + [ANOL + BNOL] Celebrity + [Come Talk To Me](https://a314.com/product/come-talk-to-me-cttm/) TEnone + ANOL Aggressive/Fear + Trust … there’s much more, as described in the old posts here & there. Anyone found similar combos which worked well? i2w ---
**Author:** ![Mak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@Mak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mak)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 11:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/74 "2006-11-20T11:59:12Z")
Anone + Bnol, is an absolute favorite … and I can say for a woman or two as well. I’d call it, Instant Femalicious. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2006, 8:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/75 "2006-11-22T20:08:58Z")
> [@Mak](#): > > Androstenone + Beta Androstenol, is an absolute favorite … and I can say for a woman or two as well. > > I’d call it, Instant Femalicious. What responses do you get with that combo? ---
**Author:** ![w810i](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7c8e57/32.png) [@w810i](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/w810i)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 1:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/76 "2006-11-23T01:15:34Z")
Before recieving my bottle of instant shine.. i had no results from any of the products i bought off this site.. the 2 products were a314 + TUTH.. people said that these 2 products used together were simply too agressive and would make people more agressive towards you or simply ignore you.. and boy was this true.. i was kind of dissapointed in my results. I’ve also been using the sample bottles of mx102 - 105 with no results. however, ever since i’ve gotten instant shine, i’ve actually noticed small results from people around me.. from a314.. i get the feeling that people actually do respect you more and value your opinion, they wont hesitate to help you and will go out of their way to help you as for tuth.. i haven’t been wearing it that often but i’ve still yet to recieve any sexual hits. so from my experience, instant shine gives people the ‘feel good’ feeling which further enhances the uses of other pheromones.. definatley a must have. now i want to try other ‘fun’ and ‘open’ pheremones ---
**Author:** ![terry0400-40](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/terry0400-40/32/1915_2.png) [@terry0400-40](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/terry0400-40)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 2:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/77 "2006-11-23T02:56:48Z")
> [@w810i](#): > > Before recieving my bottle of instant shine.. i had no results from any of the products i bought off this site.. the 2 products were A314 + Turn Up The Heat.. > > people said that these 2 products used together were simply too agressive and would make people more agressive towards you or simply ignore you.. and boy was this true.. i was kind of dissapointed in my results. I’ve also been using the sample bottles of mx102 - 105 with no results. > > however, ever since i’ve gotten instant shine, i’ve actually noticed small results from people around me.. > > from A314.. i get the feeling that people actually do respect you more and value your opinion, they wont hesitate to help you and will go out of their way to help you > > as for Turn Up The Heat.. i haven’t been wearing it that often but i’ve still yet to recieve any sexual hits. > > so from my experience, instant shine gives people the ‘feel good’ feeling which further enhances the uses of other pheromones.. definatley a must have. now i want to try other ‘fun’ and ‘open’ pheremones I have worn A314 with a little dab of none and a spray of instant shine to a large gathering and i did not notice a lot only that i wasnt being approached, however whenever i instigated some conversations with females they seemed to hold on to my every word and not want me to leave so the little cloud i have going with this mix does cause a definate response, so maybe if i had on only 2 drops of A314 and 2 sprays instant openness and a spray or 2 of ammunition it really would have warmed things up a lot more, i think a little ammo just may be on my next order and some overproof instant openness yes, i could come over and visit some of the loverly girls on the forum then, ooh ahh i had better get writing, sounds like a good time to get back on to my aerobic work as ill have to look good when i step off the plane ha 😃 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 7:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/78 "2006-11-23T07:15:35Z")
> [@itwow](#): > > I noticed that combos of _opposite-pulling_ products give quite interesting results. Consider : > > Instant Shine For Men + WAGG > Celebrity + Approachability > > Instant Shine For Men + [Alpha Androstenol + Beta Androstenol] > Celebrity + Come Talk To Me > > TEnone + Alpha Androstenol > Aggressive/Fear + Trust > > … there’s much more, as described in the old posts here & there. Anyone found similar combos which worked well? > > i2w Hi i2w, I dont think each pheromone has ONE major effect. There are a number of effects for each pheromone that can lead to synergy. For example **WAGG:** Approachability, ‘Nice guy’ effect, more politeness. **[Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/)/TAA:** ‘Personal space removal’, More confidence especially in males, Moodlift, and also ‘Celebrity/youthful glamour’ vibe. Now the Approachability from WAGG would go nicely with the decrease in personal space from Instant Shine so that you will get people approaching you more and initiating conversations more and getting into your personal space. **ANOL:** ‘social’ excitement, fun, easygoing, great mood **AndrostEnone:** ‘sexual’ excitement, aggressiveness, fear/threat, dominance Even though these two pheromones seem like complete opposites, the bright vibe that ANol brings can bring some light to the darkness that is present with AndrostEnone. Also the fact that both these two generate forms of ‘excitement’ means that this ‘classical mix’ is still considered to provide a powerful sexual combo. Visionary ---
**Author:** ![Mak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@Mak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mak)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 11:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/79 "2006-11-23T11:23:05Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > What responses do you get with that combo? It breaks Anone down a bit. So it is like the Anone attention and attraction when it is working well, plus wanting to actually talk back and ‘get close’. It seems ratio are important. Little extra Bnol and the sharpness of Anone is significantly gone. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 6:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134/80 "2006-11-23T18:04:05Z")
> [@Mak](#): > > It breaks Androstenone down a bit. So it is like the Anone attention and attraction when it is working well, plus wanting to actually talk back and ‘get close’. > > It seems ratio are important. Little extra Beta Androstenol and the sharpness of Anone is significantly gone. Mak, how much do you normally apply, and what is your source of -none? Same for Beta-nol? How old are you? What type of reactions have you been getting with those two (-none:B-nol)… age/race? You ever tried -none with B-nol? Thanks! 😛 [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134.md?page=3) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-used-alone-what-results-have-you-had-and-what-would-you-improve/134.md?page=5)