# Interesting OD **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 29, 2009, 2:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-od/33689 "2009-10-29T14:58:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 2:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-od/33689/1 "2009-10-29T14:58:02Z")
Excerpt from my journal. Thought people would like to read about an OD in action. Yesterday’s Report: I decided to give OD a try, but then after phero loading I realized I should probably buffer it because I had two meetings to go to and didn’t want people completely freaking out. **9:30am** 2 sprays TUTH to the chest under the shirt 5 sprays IG, 4 all around my neck and 1 spread between the back of both forearms (This is where I realized my madness) 4 sprays IO, 2 to top of head and 2 to back of head 4 sprays IS, 2 to sides of neck and 2 to front of neck Self Effects: I made sure to wait a few minutes in between every couple sprays to keep from passing out from the alcohol solvent. Applied TUTH first and while waiting for it to dry I started getting cockier and checked myself out in the mirror for like 5 minutes lol. I’ve been working out diligently for a few months and I guess I was admiring my work 🙄. IG was next and I quickly felt like I needed to get off my butt and go study. Also felt a little bit over-amped, like I had popped a caffeine pill or something. Then I realized I was out of my mind and would be intimidating the crap out of people if I didn’t buffer it at least a little. After applying the IO and IS I noticed that the excitement and adrenaline rush had died down quite a bit. Off to meeting one… Effects on Others: Got to my first meeting. I tend to get to my meetings early to do a bit of review before they start, so I’m almost always the first one seated. The girl that talked like crazy the last meeting sat next to me again, but this time she was so close to me her chair was literally touching mine. We will refer to this girl as “C”. They changed the room we meet in, but the only difference in setup is that C had to walk past a computer, which is NOT in the way by any means, to get to me. What I found interesting was that she commented: “It’s getting harder for me to get to you.” A couple minutes later and another girl walked in. This was the girl that usually sits to the left of C, about whom I last noted that she was leaning back to look past C and stare at me. We will call her “D”. Even though we were in a different room, the table setup was the same and everyone basically sat in their usual spots, except for D. I typically have another girl sit next to me, but this time D did. The funny thing about it is that when she first came in, she went to her normal seat to the left of C, but just before sitting down, she grabbed her bag and moved directly next to me on my right 😮. The girl that usually sits by me, who we will call “E” (Notice the pattern? 😛), then walks in, and sees D sitting next to me. The best part about it, she looked at D, looked at me, looked at D again, looked at me again, and then with her head down looking disappointed, she sat next to D. That’s not all folks. Throughout the meeting I noticed that whenever C said something to contribute to the group discussion, she would immediately look directly at me afterwards as if she was looking for validation from me. While she didn’t get excessively chatty like the last time, she was fidgeting like crazy in her seat. I think at one point the mones must have been too much for her because about halfway through the meeting, she moved her seat a little bit away from me. I also noticed that she kept apologizing to me for no reason lol. For example, she would be leaning forward in her seat and just barely obstructing my view of the group leader and she would apologize for blocking my way then move back like a foot. Another strange thing that happened with her is that I dropped my pencil on the floor and it somehow managed to roll almost all the way to the other side of the table. C says “Awwww”, I said “screw it I got 50 more”, and then C _gets out of her seat, crawls on the floor under the table, and gets my pencil!_ 😮😮😮. If this wasn’t mones then the planets must have been aligned or something 😛. I didn’t have the best view of D because she was on my right and the group leader was to my left, so the only chance I really had to look at her (without blatantly turning my head to her) was when I was looking down at my papers, and even then it was just using my peripherals. From the little bit I saw of her, I did notice that she was leaning forewards and to her left (towards me) quite a bit, almost laying on the table to get closer to me. Unfortunately, I didn’t get a chance to see anything else. I also didn’t see anything from E but because of where she was there was no way to see her unless I completely stared right at her. **12:45pm** Hit myself with 2 refresher sprays of IS to the neck. Self Effects: Nothing at first, but as my second meeting progressed, I noticed that I started feeling realllllly down. I completely lost interest in what was going on in the meeting, kept my head down, and was just very annoyed for some reason, but couldn’t figure out why. Effects on Others: This bad mood I was suddenly in pretty much kept me from paying attention to how people were responding to me, so I don’t have much to report from this meeting. No more refreshers for the rest of the day. After lunch I went to the library and found an open seat next to an asian girl. After about 30 minutes she grabbed her stuff and left. I didn’t think anything of it at first, but then I remembered how much I had on and that asians are usually very sensitive to mones. By about 7pm I could start smelling some mone BO and this is actually the first time I’ve noticed this odor. I knew it wasn’t naturally from me because I never smell like this, even after a workout. Speaking of workouts, I went to the gym as usual and definitely saw some OD effects in action. There were a few times when I had to use a machine that was next to a machine being occupied by a girl (P.S. this gym is full of hotties) and soon after me being there the girl would get up and use a different machine. I also noticed that guys were moving out of my way. I will say however that I had an AMAZING workout and impressed myself with how much I was lifting. The only thing is that even though I was lifting a lot, I felt drained compared to how much energy I usually have when I workout. Conclusions: A very eventful day… In regards to my first meeting, I think the mones definitely grabbed the attention of the two girls sitting next to me. I think what happened with E is due to her remembering my phero signature from the past few meetings and subsequently feeling disappointed when she realized she wouldn’t be close enough to me to get the “smell” again. C was literally hit after hit after hit, and she is proving to be a source of many of my phero hits and results. Sorry C, but it’s for the greater good 🙄. As to what happened in my second meeting, I think I was experiencing the depression that many people get after first using IS. It hasn’t been getting regular use from me, so this is the only logical explanation I can come up with. I just haven’t gotten used to it yet, but my IS 2x that I recently ordered should be in soon and I’ll see how that works out for me. Gym was clear OD, no other explanation. I could smell the BO for a few hours before even getting to the gym, so there’s no telling how bad I reeked to everyone else. Phero free today. ---
**Author:** ![qbdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/ecccb3/32.png) [@qbdude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/qbdude)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 3:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-od/33689/2 "2009-10-29T15:18:20Z")
question do you smell bad when you dont OD? ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 5:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-od/33689/3 "2009-10-29T17:43:56Z")
If you are asking if [pheromones](https://a314.com/) smell bad without OD, then it depends on the pheromone. If you are asking if _I_ smell bad with pheromones without OD, then no. I’m usually very aware of how I smell and if I get a hint of funk I’ll hit myself with a spray of cologne. ---
**Author:** ![TroubleSome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/91b2a8/32.png) [@TroubleSome](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TroubleSome)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 6:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-od/33689/4 "2009-10-29T18:24:28Z")
I wouldn’t say that you OD’d as you’ve had your -none buffered with plenty of social mones, no? i thought your mix was a pretty good balance between respect, sociability and sexiness ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 6:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-od/33689/5 "2009-10-29T18:46:44Z")
I did buffer it, but I also had a lot of -rone on from the IG. I think it may have initially been okay, but once that -rone started converting to -none it was OD central. ---
**Author:** ![TroubleSome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/91b2a8/32.png) [@TroubleSome](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TroubleSome)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 6:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-od/33689/6 "2009-10-29T18:53:42Z")
Hmmmm now that is quite interesting for me! Does -rone mutates into -none as time passes? ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-od/33689/7 "2009-10-29T18:57:07Z")
my understanding is that over a few hours it gets converted by bacteria into -none. Not sure on how long it takes, but it does not happen quickly. ---
**Author:** ![crewchief182](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@crewchief182](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/crewchief182)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 7:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-od/33689/8 "2009-10-29T19:40:41Z")
I have definitely noticed some effects when using my usual IS, IG combo before workouts. Usually 1x IS to the hair, and 2x IG to wrists & neck. Looks from women and various different subtle reactions from the guys. Never many women, so I’ll test further. I do like the self effects, as they make my workouts that much more intense and enjoyable. ---
**Author:** ![interestedone09](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/interestedone09/32/760_2.png) [@interestedone09](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/interestedone09)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2009, 7:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-od/33689/9 "2009-11-01T19:32:31Z")
> [@scotties123](#): > > Effects on Others: > This bad mood I was suddenly in pretty much kept me from paying attention to how people were responding to me, so I don’t have much to report from this meeting. I know exactly what you are talking about. I have a feeling that it’s the -none because I think that I am -none sensitive and tend to pay a lot of attention when I use it. Kind of funny that you mentioned this because I just reported TUTH in a meeting recently in my journal. And spent a whole class once just figuring out the math to dilute my TUTH. PS: If you don’t mind me asking, what kind of meeting was it? Because that seemed like a very intense mix for a meeting, something that I would do myself. ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2009, 8:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-od/33689/10 "2009-11-01T20:09:00Z")
> [@interestedone09](#): > > I know exactly what you are talking about. I have a feeling that it’s the -none because I think that I am -none sensitive and tend to pay a lot of attention when I use it. Kind of funny that you mentioned this because I just reported TUTH in a meeting recently in my journal. And spent a whole class once just figuring out the math to dilute my TUTH. > > PS: If you don’t mind me asking, what kind of meeting was it? Because that seemed like a very intense mix for a meeting, something that I would do myself. I don’t think it was because of the -none because I think I’m becoming a -none junky lol. It seems to be the only thing I get good self effects from and I have gotten some of my more blatant hits while using decent amounts of it. I think it may have been the IS. Many people get a little depressed after the IS happy feeling fades. This usually only happens the first few times using it, but I don’t use it regularly, so this may have been what I experienced. I’m a medical student and this was a meeting that I have 3 times a week with a group of 7 other students and a doctor group leader, where we discuss patient cases. I do agree that it was a pretty hard hitting mix to be using for a setting like this, but with the very few oppurtunities I have to go out and experiment, 90% of my trials are done in these meetings or at the library. I just don’t have a lot of time with school to try it out in other places, except for the occasional bar. ---
**Author:** ![lukus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e4f/32.png) [@lukus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lukus)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 1:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-od/33689/11 "2009-11-02T01:27:18Z")
What part were you claiming contributed as the OD? Androstenone alone I presume? I went out not so long ago with 4-6 sprays of Tuth, can’t say I got any bad results and by the sounds of things, I wonder why you class this as an OD? Based from the meeting, it sounds like the dose you used was rather nice and from what I’m aware of 5mcg (2sprays) is rather safe /borderline to negatives (of course, everyone is unique) not to mention you ‘buffered’. As to the gym and other things, that might have been purely coincident. If I had a penny for every person I seen get up and move not long after someone else had set up camp near them, well I wouldn’t be rich but I’d have a few free beers 😉. ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 1:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-od/33689/12 "2009-11-02T01:39:36Z")
I was using OD in a broader sense of the term. Rather than just considering OD as so much -none that people run away, I was thinking of it as overdose on any particular [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/), in this case a combination of -rone and -none. I think that all the IG I had on gave off a vibe of much higher value and respect and the -none may have pushed that vibe into “you better respect me” because of possible intimidation. As far as your TUTH experiences, when you say you didn’t get any bad results, did you get any positive results? Because you may have just ghosted and while people may not have been overtly trying to get away from you, you may have come off intimidating enough to the point where people just ignored you all together. As for the gym, the reason I’m contributing it to OD (in this case pure -none OD) is because I had been wearing all of those mones the entire day, giving them plenty of time to convert into -none, and after seeing them move away from me a couple times, I felt that it was probably because of the -none. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 9:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-od/33689/13 "2009-11-02T09:46:55Z")
I don’t think you OD at all, 4 shots of IO especially if it was at x2 and 4 sprays of IS are probably even a little bit too much social buffer for those two sprays of -none (TUTH.) Androsterone can cause a stand off-ish vibe but definitely not as much as the Androsterone based A314. Androstenone heavy without buffers would be more like taking a walk on the wild side. I say you spray on 4 or 5 sprays of just TUTH then let us know what happened. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 1:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-od/33689/14 "2009-11-02T13:32:41Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > I don’t think you OD at all, 4 shots of IO especially if it was at x2 and 4 sprays of IS are probably even a little bit too much social buffer for those two sprays of -none (TUTH.) Androsterone can cause a stand off-ish vibe but definitely not as much as the Androsterone based A314. Androstenone heavy without buffers would be more like taking a walk on the wild side. I say you spray on 4 or 5 sprays of just TUTH then let us know what happened. 😉 I’ll have to find a proper venue and give this a try. The IO was 1x, sorry if it wasn’t clear. ---
**Author:** ![lukus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e4f/32.png) [@lukus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lukus)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 7:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-od/33689/15 "2009-11-02T19:11:16Z")
> [@scotties123](#): > > As far as your TUTH experiences, when you say you didn’t get any bad results, did you get any positive results? Because you may have just ghosted and while people may not have been overtly trying to get away from you, you may have come off intimidating enough to the point where people just ignored you all together. Well for me, my female friend came to my house out of the blue with her gay friend, I put on 4 sprays and didn’t get an OD. No alienation or being ignored, Infact at one point she wanted me to keep her warm, thus getting closer rather than the opposit although that should not be taken as a ‘hit’, she’s just like that. When we got into town, I had 2 more sprays on, one girl came up to me and asked if I could take a photo of her/friends, she then wanted one with me, then thanked me /kissed me and then made a flirty comment /touched my chest for some reason, had I not been messed around for the last 8 hours or so I probably would have chatted to her and made a new friend but guess not lol. Soon after that I was forced to go to a gay bar cause’ we had that gay friend around with us so that was my night ruined. When we finally got back to mine, me and my female friend slept in the same bed (fully clothed, nothing naughty), yet another strange thing about her, she doesnt like to sleep on her own. So for me, I find it hard to believe I OD on upto 6 sprays. I did have spaceland on me too, but that can only do so much. There was a bit of an argument that night, but I wouldn’t say it was the none. As such, this is why I’m surprised you think your results were an overdose, life is full of pros and cons and your cons seem rather trivial, for the Gym, it could have unfortunately been due the BO like qualities of none you accumilated, something we are all pretty much aware of and hence use cover scents for. ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 7:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-od/33689/16 "2009-11-02T19:59:14Z")
> [@lukus](#): > > So for me, I find it hard to believe I OD on upto 6 sprays. I did have spaceland on me too, but that can only do so much. Spaceland has 50mcg alpha nol per spray, so this is quite a bit of buffering, even with just 1 spray. > [@](#): > > As such, this is why I’m surprised you think your results were an overdose, life is full of pros and cons and your cons seem rather trivial What I was qualifying as my overdose (like the girl crawling on the floor to get my pencil) was not being referred to as a con. If anything it was a pro lol. I’m simply saying that I had a lot of rone and -none, which seemed to impart a super respect factor. I’ve also stated in previous posts/journal entries that the crawling girl seems to be sensitive to mones because I’ve gotten phero hits off her that I haven’t seen in other people. So it may have been do to her sensitivity to mones. > [@](#): > > for the Gym, it could have unfortunately been due the BO like qualities of none you accumilated, something we are all pretty much aware of and hence use cover scents for. I think it was a combo of BO and -none. I interpret the BO as a sign of -none OD for myself because I have never previously had BO from using mones, and this was the most -none I’ve ever had on at once (after all the phero conversion to -none).