# Interesting reactions and Similar products to CTTM & IFM **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 25, 2011, 11:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-reactions-and-similar-products-to-cttm-ifm/49536 "2011-03-25T23:20:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 3
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 4:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-reactions-and-similar-products-to-cttm-ifm/49536/3 "2011-03-26T04:08:50Z")
> [@Johnny\_Gslinger](#): > > I’ve read that IFM and CTTM have been discontinued, however I think I might be in need of these 2 products. Can I mix any of the products or are there any putatives or experimones that can duplicate the effects? > > My package arrived pretty fast and I went to work on it immediately. > > I’d like to thank Androtics for the free samples they gave, unfortunately I think DHL didn’t handle the parcel too well and most of my togo bottle of IG spilt into the package so I decided to dab the spilt contents on myself, neck and chest, I put a big drop of A314 below my nose and on my neck. (When you guys say drop, is it a dab of the bottle on the finger itself or do I lift the bottle up and let the oil “free fall” cos the oil seems to come out big or multiple drops just spill out) > > Please tell me if any of the effects I’ve felt are what I should expect/placebo/overthinking/od-ing > > I gave a female friend (A) (early twenties) who stayed near me a lift to the mall I was going to as I was meeting another female friend (B) (mid twenties) for dinner in that area too. (A) is usually a little bitchy and cranky and true to form she was a little snide and sarcastic in her conersation with me in the car. However I ignored certain comments, was firm with her (usually she still retorts or tries to draw my attention if I ignore her) and somehow our conversations became more normal and less bitchy, however I realised she didn’t laugh too much at my jokes (I usually joked) > > I met up with (B) who wanted to catch up with me (haven’t had a long chat with her for about 6 months) and find out how things were. At the end of the conversation she told me that somehow I felt older now. She’s not the touchy feely type but when she said good bye to me she placed her hand on my arm (side of bicep) and told me to take care. > > I then went to a shop where I was a regular and did my shopping. The boss who knew me (C) (late 40s) remarked that I felt less boyish and that I felt older (I have this boyish air to me. I alternate between a boyish personality and an alpha negotiater/salesman. Personal life = boyish, Work = alpha. One of her staff was exceptionally helpful and went out of his way (early 50s) to help me check and look for discounted stock (same goods but more generic packaging, ie. meant for samples) > > I went home, took a shower and scrubbed totally clean. > > I proceeded to apply > > 1 spray of IO X2 on each wrist (2 sprays total) > 1 spray of IS X2 on my inner elbows (2 sprays total) > Half a spray of ammunition to my chest, 1 spray on my hand applied on both sides of my neck > 1 drop of A314 on my chin, 1 drop of A314 on my neck > > I then headed out to a club that I frequented with a couple of friends > > When I was there… > > A gay guy whom I’ve seen around but never talked to looked at me with strange eyes (as if he was attracted) and then came over and started talking to me.. A beta guy whom I knew later came over and gave me a prolonged hug and proceeded to engage me in a semi lengthy conversation. However other people seemed to not notice me. Some of my friends were a little weird though. Talking to some of them and some I met, for some reason they couldn’t give me eye contact when talking to me. 2 of them even had that slight “raised pitch” in voice when talking. Something like when someone is trying to “fake it” and their voice suddenly raises a little, and what they were talking to me about seemed a little superficial . > > A couple of girls came over to dance with me but that was about it. I was somehow invisible to most people (did I OD, was I ghosting or was it no effect and I was just normal and over imagining things). Somehow people felt distant > > When we went for drinks and food post clubbing, a buddy of mine sitting next to me asked me to move a little further from him. He was tired out from a week of work, but he told me that he somehow felt that he needed some space and that when I was sitting near him, he somehow had the feeling of his space being invaded. > > At drinks and food I noticed that some of my buds were more attentive when I spoke, they actually listened and accepted what I mostly said (they usually question or critique but somehow they just kind of accepted what I said) I don’t know if it was the time and since everybody was tired > > I think I need something more social like IFM And CTTM. Anyone have any recommendations? Well, first of all. the A314 sections A, B & C…are EXACTLY the same things I’ve gotten, when I 1st started wearing it. Even my own brother, said one day…John I just feel like you’ve matured so much, like you’re a grown man.🙂 Coming from my brother I was sooo touched, ofcourse I just stood there with the pride only a little brother could have. As well as women and girls…yes I also find that my jokes aren’t laughed at they way they normally are…like I’m the principal or something…that’s why when I go out now I always temper my A314 with IS, and other molocules…take the seriousness away from it. as far as IFM…the main ingrediant in that is A1.[Check here.](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668) and read all about it. CTTM2 was availble a few months ago in a tester, not there now but you can just wear IO on your neck as a sub for now. --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-reactions-and-similar-products-to-cttm-ifm/49536)._