# Interesting Testing Environment - an aircraft! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 6, 2008, 1:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-testing-environment-an-aircraft/14996 "2008-07-06T13:55:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ps86651](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ps86651/32/206_2.png) [@ps86651](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ps86651)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2008, 1:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-testing-environment-an-aircraft/14996/1 "2008-07-06T13:55:58Z")
Hey guys - I am a pilot and have just been introduced to pheromones and the various products available through Androtics. I was introduced to this interesting product through a co-pilot on one of my flights…he was wearing A314 (obviously I didn’t know at the time) and I immediately felt a sense of authority and command from this guy (even though he is 2yrs junior to me) and my cabin crew felt the same. I asked him what cologne he was wearing and he then introduced me to the world of pheromones! Anyways, I ordered a few products over the last few days, and through Tisha (and other helpful members), some more today. - A314, [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), Instant Shine, Ammo, Instant Honesty Although the recommended thing to do is to try each one in isolation and see what the ‘sweet spots’ are (from what I’ve seen on this forum already) - are there any particular combinations of the above that you would recommend, or want to see the results of? I heard A314+Shine or A314+Honesty work well together…any others? I fly roughly 3 times a week, with rest days in between…each flight (depending on sector) is approximately 8-12hrs. It will be interesting to see how it all effects people in enclosed spaces for this amount of time. I will keep all of you updated - on the effects on cabin crew as well as any passengers! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2008, 3:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-testing-environment-an-aircraft/14996/2 "2008-07-06T15:11:05Z")
How nice of him of letting u on those wonderful products! That is really interesting that you felt the authority while not knowing that he was wearing A314. Did you thought about that only afterward when he told you and linked back, or did you feel it at the time u dont know yet? I would say that Instant Honesty plus A314 will work a little better, since androstenol is probably the best buffer for A314 (androsterone) although, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) will be even better than Instant Honesty. But shine can help a lot too. But you need to know that it will decrease the net authority of A314, making it a more sociable and likeble effect for people around you. Not like your the boss, but your a higher status friend… 🙂 Looking forward to read your interesting reports! Well some products might cause somnolence the first few times, so try it for like a week you u get used to it, before flying 😉 IO IH are two that most likely to tire u and people around you too ---
**Author:** ![Redundancy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea5d25/32.png) [@Redundancy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Redundancy)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2008, 5:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-testing-environment-an-aircraft/14996/3 "2008-07-06T17:14:09Z")
AMMO and [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) is a good combo too, not quite sure how it would fair in a airplane cockpit though (it’s better for social situations outside of work). Welcome to the world of pheromones, I hope you enjoy 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2008, 6:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-testing-environment-an-aircraft/14996/4 "2008-07-06T18:58:00Z")
I’ve found authority enhancing [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) can be dicey at TSA checkpoints. Often they call you sir and you sail right through. But if you get a wantabe alpha they notice you and tend to work ya over to prove themselves. I’ve actually found it better to blend into the woodwork and fly sans pheromones, or only wear small amounts of social enhancement, e.g., Scent of Eros. ---
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 4:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-testing-environment-an-aircraft/14996/5 "2008-07-07T04:37:27Z")
i always used a full spray of Spaceland on any train or airplane trip, hoping to avoid the possibility of having an unpleasant or rude seat mate. ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 6:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-testing-environment-an-aircraft/14996/6 "2008-07-07T06:59:34Z")
I wouldn’t recommend Spaceland for a pilot 😮 A314 or [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) seems fine. I’m careful using pheromones while driving or riding a motorcycle- with a car I usually take the car air off recirculate, and on a bike/scooter I usually apply the pheromones only to the wrists and try not to wear anything too relaxing. Some people can pick up a change in pheromone signatures fairly quickly. Be careful because sometimes the pheromones can get you into an olfactory cold war with somebody, if you are giving off too much of an “alpha male” feeling, and if it really isn’t so conducive it can cause them to resent it unless you back down and give them some space. Too much tension could be created. ---
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 7:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-testing-environment-an-aircraft/14996/7 "2008-07-07T07:18:53Z")
for clarity, wasn’t recommending spaceland _for_ a pilot but rather for a passenger looking to test a [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) amongst a captive audience. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 1:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-testing-environment-an-aircraft/14996/8 "2008-07-08T01:31:43Z")
I use A314 a lot. Usually with IH. It cuts down on the distance I get with just the A314 alone. It also mixes well with the Ammo in a more social or romance setting. See the A314 and Ammo Combo thread in my signature block. If you read the A314 vs.[Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) thread you will find that alternating A314 and Instant Gentleman around people you interact with often also gives you a really good vibe. ---
**Author:** ![ps86651](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ps86651/32/206_2.png) [@ps86651](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ps86651)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 10:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-testing-environment-an-aircraft/14996/9 "2008-07-08T10:43:12Z")
Ok guys - my first test coming up - I am flying to India tonight and shall be testing A314 by itself…2 drops should be sufficient! I’ll let you know when I hit the hotel tomorrow how it all went! ---
**Author:** ![ntr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/898d66/32.png) [@ntr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntr)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 9:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-testing-environment-an-aircraft/14996/10 "2008-07-08T21:10:33Z")
> [@ps86651](#): > > I asked him what cologne he was wearing and he then introduced me to the world of pheromones! Did you ask him about his cologne because you could smell the A314? How many drops does he wear? I’m just curious if others can smell this on me. I usually wear 2 drops. ---
**Author:** ![ps86651](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ps86651/32/206_2.png) [@ps86651](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ps86651)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2008, 11:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-testing-environment-an-aircraft/14996/11 "2008-07-09T11:21:28Z")
Ladies and gentlemen, my first test report! I’ve tried to be as concise as possible, stating the key facts and findings. Of course, my job means that I am afforded a certain amount of respect / leadership / alpha, so its hard to isolate the ‘pure’ effect of A314, but I’ve tried where I can to isolate the effects as I saw them. Location / Route: London, UK - Mumbai, India Testing environment: Cockpit, passenger cabin, taxi, flight operations center, hotel Product: A314 Amount: 3 drops on wrist, split between wrist and spread behind each ear IN THE TAXI: My normal driver appeared as respectful and polite as he normally is, didn’t notice anything out of what he would ordinarily do. He was a little quiet, but that could be because I hammered him a little for being 15mins late. AT FLIGHT OPS CENTER: Bumped into a senior captain who appeared distracted and confused…couldn’t figure out why. As we were talking, he kept looking at his shoes (again, don’t know why) and he appeared VERY unsure of himself, which was highly unusual considering he is normally a very commanding person. A314 at work? Possibly… ON BOARD (Cockpit): As we were preparing the flight for departure, ground engineer seemed very scared / worried about what I would say to him (he’s not normally like this, a very fun / jovial person). Also, the ground engineer and co-pilot were talking to me like I was some kind of person they had always dreamed of meeting all their lives but never could, until today…you know what I mean? It was like me meeting Tiger Woods or something (what the hell do I say so as not to appear like a jackass…) Couldn’t have a normal conversation with the guy once we reached cruising altitude because it was like a King talking to his servant, rather than two professionals talking to each other. Awkward… ON BOARD (Passenger cabin): Disruptive passenger calmed down immediately once I went back to investigate…seemed very intimidated and very obviously scared, like I was going to slap him around the head. Definitely A314 at work I think…but I didn’t know it was an intimidating product? Either way, glad it had the effect it did! Other passengers were eager to talk to me and clearly held me as the leader, which was a pleasant feeling. Stewardesses were very courteous and polite but again, it seemed like a King talking to his servants…one girl in particular who I am interested in seemed she was talking to someone who was well and truly ‘out of her league’, which didn’t please me too much! HOTEL: Not really much reaction noticed, could be that the effects wore off, but by that time I was too tired to notice anything, unless it was blatantly obvious, which it wasn’t. CONCLUSION: Clear effects of A314, but seemed to have OD’d in this case. Its very hard when people think you are ‘a class above them’ or ‘out of their league’ – tough to have a normal conversation…but I can well imagine, in the right circumstances AND combined with the right product (any ideas?) – it would be a powerful product! It’s a clear alpha-male tool…but in my opinion not recommended for attraction purposes (unless you mix it with something cool…) Thanks for reading everyone – I would be happy to expand on any areas you have questions on! ---
**Author:** ![ntr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/898d66/32.png) [@ntr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntr)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2008, 8:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-testing-environment-an-aircraft/14996/12 "2008-07-10T20:49:29Z")
> [@ntr](#): > > Did you ask him about his cologne because you could smell the A314? How many drops does he wear? > > I’m just curious if others can smell this on me. I usually wear 2 drops. 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2008, 10:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-testing-environment-an-aircraft/14996/13 "2008-07-10T22:21:35Z")
I think you should try 1 drop of A314, maybe 2 drops after a week if you think the reactions aren’t to your liking. If you are the captain you are already in an authority position and anything else could well give people a shock, esp. if they have worked around you for some time. Also, your age probably means you produce more androstenone- amping up A314 will mostly change the androstenone signature since as near as I can tell, androsterone response is somewhat flatter above a certain amount vs. other pheromones. You might get some Instant Honesty and experiment that some time when you aren’t flying to judge the reactions. Also, [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) might suit you better if you want respect, but not really intimidation or authority. Just be careful with androstenols (Instant Openness/Instant Honesty) because they can be spacey in high dosages. I’d keep all pheromones you wear in low dosages. Some of them you might want to apply when you aren’t flying, too. Carry an atomizer, if that’s allowed, perhaps (I don’t know anymore since security has changed so much). ---
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 9:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-testing-environment-an-aircraft/14996/14 "2008-07-24T09:49:04Z")
> [@Daedelus76](#): > > I think you should try 1 drop of A314, maybe 2 drops after a week if you think the reactions aren’t to your liking. **If you are the captain you are already in an authority position and anything else could well give people a shock, esp. if they have worked around you for some time.** Also, your age probably means you produce more androstenone- amping up A314 will mostly change the androstenone signature since as near as I can tell, androsterone response is somewhat flatter above a certain amount vs. other pheromones. very true, IME. maybe back off one drop on the A314 and try adding in something more approachable like IS for example. thanks to the pilot as well for adding the report. ---
**Author:** ![Tenant](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tenant/32/1668_2.png) [@Tenant](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tenant)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 10:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-testing-environment-an-aircraft/14996/15 "2008-07-24T10:05:15Z")
Damn, pilots are so cool. Sounds like it’s doing its job–making you king-like. You’ll have to open up and show people you’re jovial, or maybe even command them to open up. Otherwise, you’ll have to soften it up with some more of the socials. Stewardess huh? Planning on joining the mile-high club? What equipment do you fly? ---
**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 11:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-testing-environment-an-aircraft/14996/16 "2008-07-24T11:06:36Z")
ps86651, please, PLEASE do me a favor! Show up at the airport wearing Ray Charles glasses and a white cane while dressed in uniform. Wave the cane around and bump into stuff. Think of the hilarity! BTW, which aircraft were you driving, if you don’t mind my asking. I’m an aviation nut and work for Boeing. 😃 I’m not a real pilot, but I can fly the hell out of the 737NG on Microsoft Flight Simulator. Hehe… Oh, and nice report. 😃 -D4