# Interesting thought... Any way to get IFM effects without IFM? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 22, 2007, 4:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-thought-any-way-to-get-ifm-effects-without-ifm/3267 "2007-04-22T04:02:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Thecoldtiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b3f665/32.png) [@Thecoldtiger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Thecoldtiger)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2007, 4:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-thought-any-way-to-get-ifm-effects-without-ifm/3267/1 "2007-04-22T04:02:30Z")
is there any product that can take over [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/)? now im talking about a mix of different pheros that can take its place if you dont have it…how many sparys etc..this is a very good though & hope yall can find it. these are what i have Turn Up The Heat AMMO Oppeness Tak or Tal—not sure what it is got one thats 10 mcg & one thats 5 mcg & they say molecule L MX201 MX207 honesty these are all togo bottles… i want someone to explain if theres a way to put the Instant Female Magic in without having it…otherwords…something to subsitute it when u dont have it. thanks in advance..unless someone hasnt figured it out yet. ---
**Author:** ![Thecoldtiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b3f665/32.png) [@Thecoldtiger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Thecoldtiger)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2007, 4:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-thought-any-way-to-get-ifm-effects-without-ifm/3267/2 "2007-04-22T04:19:34Z")
> [@Thecoldtiger](#): > > is there any product that can take over Instant Female Magic\> now im talking about a miz of diffrent pheros that can take its place if you dont have it…ro how many sparys etc..this is a very intellegent uestion & hope yall can find it. > > these are what i have > > Turn Up The Heat > AMMO > Oppeness > > Tak or Tal—not sure what it is > got one thats 10 mcg & one thats 5 mcg & they say molecule L > > MX201 > MX207 > honesty > > these are all togo bottles… > > i want someone to explain if theres a way to put the Instant Female Magic in without having it…otherwords…something to subsitute it when u dont have it. thanks in advance..unless someone hasnt figured it out yet. no one can help? ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2007, 5:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-thought-any-way-to-get-ifm-effects-without-ifm/3267/3 "2007-04-22T05:17:43Z")
This is probably not the answer you want. However the fundamental pheromone in [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) is Androstadienone or A-1. I purchase it in chemset form and used it to supplement various androstenone mixes for years. As a standalone, only one or two drops on my forearm transformed my PMS GF from a raging witch into a giggling sweetie. It’s probably the most predictable and effective pheromone I have ever used. This past year, I have discovered AndrostAnone has similar properties in common with A-1. It also does a good job of mellowing AndrostEnone without destroying all the positive characteristics. ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 2:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-thought-any-way-to-get-ifm-effects-without-ifm/3267/4 "2007-04-30T02:32:26Z")
One of the “scent packages” Androtics uses for IFM is basically clary sage. This EO is listed in my aromatherapy book as having a “calming” effect on women. Otherwise the only thing you list that might help is a “social” [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) like Instant Openness IMO. ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 3:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-thought-any-way-to-get-ifm-effects-without-ifm/3267/5 "2007-04-30T03:17:12Z")
to a certain extent TAL. not quite the same animal though ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2007, 9:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interesting-thought-any-way-to-get-ifm-effects-without-ifm/3267/6 "2007-07-30T09:07:13Z")
You probably don’t have most of these products but WAGG (3-4 drops) + P74 (25 mcg) + P93 (5-10 mcg) + [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) (2 sprays) is turning out to be a fine replacement for IFM in my opinion and more.